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  1. Bran the Shipper

    Moral of each characters story?

    Dany: If you're a woman in power and the men around you can't control you, they will try to destroy. As an extension of that don't ever get frustrated and lose your temper, that's a death sentence. Jon: It doesn't matter if you're a good person who has the best in mind if you are too weak to fight for it and unable to convince those around you. Also those around you will try to manipulate you to abandon your values for theirs, so hopefully you're smart enough to realize that. Sansa: The only way to defeat your enemies is to become just like them. Bran: Those who do the least get the most rewards. Arya: It doesn't matter if you become a cold hearted killer you can always go back to when you were innocent and simply craved for adventure. Tyrion: It doesn't matter if you are a spiteful person you can still become the moral compass that your friends rely on. Cersei: Don't blame your sex (or race, or whatever) for why no one respects you. Use some introspection and realize that it's because you're an idiot that no one respects you. Brienne: If you're a woman who wants to get into a male dominated field, know that it is possible. You just have to be 100 times better than the competition and also make the right kind of friends. Jaime: Stay the hell away from toxic relationships, they are super hard to escape from once you're in too deep. I'm sorry I tried to do the no joke answers but I do feel like these are the kind of morals their arcs presented.
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    if Dany lived, built her kingdom, died... what's next?

    I feel like the last episode made it clear that Dany had decided not to stay in Westeros (they did not love her and she did not take the Iron Throne). So instead of marrying Jon and becoming queen she places Jon as king and heads back to Essos to break the wheel there. Setting up sympathetic governments as she travels the globe with her goal of world conquest. Jon is then free to marry someone else and have children, though more likely he ends up tearing down the monarchy and replacing it with elections like with the position of Lord Commander in the Night's Watch. And once he has such a system in place he steps down as king and returns to Daenerys.
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    Two Questions about this Episode

    1. Sansa wants to be queen so naturally she'd push for independence. And if we need a reason that doesn't take for granted that Sansa has effectively become Littlefinger, Bran is only king at the moment. When he passes and they convene to elect a new king it is highly unlikely that they would elect one that would care about the north beyond it being a source of tax revenue. 2. They needed a get Jon out of jail free card so naturally they brought up the Night's Watch. Knowing that the Unsullied would not be versed enough in Westeros law to realize that the Night's Watch was effectively disbanded and had no reason to exist. Now it continues to exist to prove that it wasn't just some selfish attempt to save Jon's life.
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    The Book of The Kingsguard - Help Me Decide

    I thought Brienne writing his entry in the book was well done and in truth more touching and meaningful because he had failed. Jaime wanted to be remembered as something more than the Kingslayer, he wanted to be someone on par with the heroes like Arthur Dayne and Barristan Selmy. But ultimately he was too weak to rid himself of Cersei's influence. But Brienne had seen the good side of him, she knew that he deserved redemption despite not obtaining it. And so she redeemed him, just like how he had helped her obtain her goal (though she was definitely worthy of becoming a knight). It speaks to the love they shared, more so than any roll in the hay ever could.
  5. Now that the show is over I'm curious about people's favorite and least favorite characters and whether this last season has changed your mind. For my part before this season started my favorite and least favorite characters were as follows... Favorites 1. Sansa 2. Theon 3. Bran Least Favorites 1. Jon 2. Arya Now this is how it has changed... Favorites (in order) 1. Daenerys 2. Theon 3. Bran Least Favorites 1. Arya
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    Jon & Drogon

    He broke the wheel. Both by melting the iron throne and by not giving into a desire for revenge. Revenge would not bring Dany back (flying her off to Volantis so Kinvara could give her the kiss of life would bring her back). All revenge does is lead to a never ending cycle of violence and Drogon the Wise realized it and so he sought another way.
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    So what was this long story all about?

    I think such a question is one that everyone will come to their own conclusion about. For me I guess it would be something like this... Even if there is an objective right vs wrong, each individual's definition of right vs wrong is subjective. Which to me kind of indicates that objective right vs wrong doesn't exist since it is unknowable, but the story doesn't necessarily make that claim.
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    Bran Truly Was The Best Possible Choice To Rule

    Bran is not a pure good character, he uses others as tools despite the trauma it causes them. Before he became the Three Eyed Raven he did this to Hodor. Using his body so that he could walk around despite knowing that it terrified Hodor whenever he did this. Then he uses his power as the 3ER to manipulate events so that he becomes king. If he truly didn't want to become king he would not have journeyed south with Sansa, but he did knowing full well what awaited him. Why tell Jon about his parentage if all that comes of it is that it drives a rift between Jon and Dany and eventually results in Jon killing her. Knowing that this would tear Jon apart inside. But it leads to Bran becoming king so he forced the truth out. It just seems awfully convenient that everyone that has hurt Bran ends up dead, but his family and friends all have a relatively happy ending. Also Bran must have grabbed some major power to not only allow Sam to become a maester but to then name him Grand Maester. The position of Grand Maester is supposed to be selected by the citadel and I doubt the would choose a disgraced thief as their representative.
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    [Spoilers] Episode 806 Discussion

    I liked this episode better than I thought I would. Though that is almost entirely because I'm interpreting the events in a different direction than I think the show intends. But hey, death of the author and all that. So while I think we are supposed to be happy that our Stark heroes got their happy endings, I see the ending in more of a tragic light. Bran is proven to have manipulated everyone so that he could be king. I always knew he used people as tools e.g. Hodor, but he has become a master of the game of thrones. Manipulating Jon and Tyrion and well, pretty much everyone he spoke with to place himself into the position where everyone votes for him to be king. And as king he immediately (well technically he isn't even king yet) shows his nepotism by allowing Sansa to become Queen in the North. He also allows Jon to take the black which results in him becoming the King Beyond the Wall (effectively if not in reality). And while Westeros now has an elective monarchy, since it is only the great lords who get to vote, we no longer even have the chance of having a king who prioritizes the small folk over the lords. Which we could have had in a traditional monarchy. Though at least we won't be getting a truly awful king who can only be removed by rebellion. Though that doesn't mean there will be lasting peace since by letting the North break away they set up a terrible precedent. Either future kings allow kingdoms to break off whenever they want or go to war with the North to bring it back into the fold and show that it only got away with it for a time because of Bran's nepotism. We prove that even though Dany went too far in The Bells episode, she did not go mad. She still was working towards her goal of breaking the wheel, and she didn't intend to stop until the whole world was free. But she is killed before she could because Tyrion, in an attempt to save his own skin, convinces Jon that he needs to kill her lest she execute Sansa and Arya. I think that how Drogon responds to her death proves that she was a good person. Did he give in to his rage over her death and kill Jon? No, he mourned the death of his mother and then tried to fulfill his mother's wish for a better world by breaking the wheel in the best way a dragon can. Afterwards he peacefully flew off with his mother to bring her to a better place. If such gentleness could be displayed in a creature of fire incarnate, you have to praise his mom for her good influence.
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    Use one word to describe the series finale.

    Tragic
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    The Perfect Ending

    Dany stares out at the charred remains of King's Landing from an upper level of a destroyed Red Keep. "I vowed to leave the world better than I found it." Then she jumps out the window Tommen style.
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    Possible explanation to "Dany gate"

    It would make more sense, if this was meant to come across as an altered history, if we see how things actually played out but then afterwards see how the event is being spun. For instance, if Dany didn't go mad but Jon supporters wanted her to come across that way, show her burning down the Red Keep as a show of force. Then have Sansa receive a letter stating that Dany went mad and burned down all of King's Landing. Maybe have it so the city didn't surrender until soon after she started her raid on the Red Keep, but have all of the accounts of the attack say that she started her raid after the enemy had already surrendered. Ultimately if this was supposed to be an allegory of how history gets written by the victors it could have been shown as such, but that is not the point that this scene was supposed to have. But then I'm not entirely sure what the point was, since any reasoning I could come up with seems to fall flat due to the build up (or lack thereof) to it.
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    How would you fix?

    Honestly it wouldn't be too hard to fix it, just keep things more ambiguous. For instance once the bells start to ring, show that the gate into the Red Keep isn't being opened. Since the surrender requires both the ringing of the bells and the gate being opened it becomes unclear to Dany on whether this is in fact a surrender or a trap. So then she gets fed up with waiting for the gate to open and flies Drogon directly to the Red Keep and starts to burn it down. Don't have her needlessly burn down the entire city. But have Arya see all of the people who were taken into the Keep get killed and only manages to escape herself because she remembers the passages she used in Season 1. Have her be badly wounded by the dragon fire (not life threatening but enough to erode Dany's support further). Still have Grey Worm kill the Lannister soldier and have it unclear as to whether he acted on his own or whether Dany had planned for him to do so. Have Jon and Tyrion look on in horror knowing that Dany just knowingly killed hundreds of innocent people. Then have it in the last episode show that Dany is becoming increasingly unstable, but make it unclear as to whether she was going mad and that's why she killed everyone in the Red Keep or whether her killing everyone in the Red Keep was what is now driving her mad.
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    Bran did it!

    Yep, I came to this conclusion too. See he had asked Sansa to sew him a fancy coat that he saw Bran the Builder wear, but she would only do it if he could get Jon onto the Iron Throne. So he warged into Drogon and just went to town, ensuring that everyone would turn on Dany. Sadly this scene was cut from the episode since it would make things make more sense, but that is how the show operates these days.
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    [Spoilers] Episode 805 Discussion

    I don't even know what to think anymore. Part of me wants to hold out hope that things will be different in the books, but that seems to just be denial on my part (I guess I'm in that stage of grief, eh). I know that the dragon has always been an aspect of Dany, but I always believed she would ultimately reject it. Guess I was wrong on that count too. It's not like her turnaround is entirely unbelievable. We see that she was pushed to the point where she felt like she could only gain loyalty through fear since love was unobtainable for her. But I don't quite see why she would burn down all of King's Landing, the Red Keep would have been sufficient to show that she shows her enemies no mercy. And would have been enough to turn Jon, Tyrion, and Arya against her. It's strange how each episode since The Long Night makes the one before it seem better. I guess a good thing about this episode is that there is only one left. Another good thing is that it is making me rethink purchasing Winds of Winter day one like I had intended. Is that a good thing? I don't know anymore.
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