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  1. Ahaha I had read all the books before starting the show, so I was already not a Snow fan. I thought ADWD was to show how both Dany and Jon weren't great at ruling, but Dany's instinct helped her triumph/survive whereas Jon Snow is murdered. Suuuuuper upset when Jon Snow was resurrected. "No one is safe." my butt!
  2. Funny how you get my feelings about the Starks spot-on. Unless someone tells me the books do end differently, then I am fine not reading them and forgetting about this series altogether. Sansa hasn't been spoiled yet so I am rooting for her in the books at least.
  3. You could say there were hints about every person then, the only difference is that Daenerys had the "mad targ" plot device. If Targaryens were just rulers and did not have this "mad targ" gene, would Dany be any different than any other character? What she does throughout the show is exactly what we cheer other characters for, but we never call that going mad. Look at the Lannisters, all of them are crazy mad but we never think of them as so because it was said they were cunning. Arya and Sansa have killed brutally but they are righteous, not mad. The mad targ was a plot device for D&D and GRRM to shoot in case they wanted to. They could have EASILY gone the other way and it would have made even more sense. I don't think anyone would be going "but it doesn't make sense, she HAS to be evil!" because she never was. Up until this point Dany had never targeted innocents. GRRM and D&D decided to pull the trigger. THAT is what makes horrid storytelling. In any other case this was a horrible retcon of her character. So go on with your whole "we told you so" bullshit, you're okay with a poor ending since everyone else got rainbows and sunshine.
  4. One of my favorite parts of Death Note was when Light had amnesia - and then regained his memories so the audience truly sees how warped he is by his face going from puppy-dog innocent to manipulative-evil. He changed into Kira over time, not with one simple blow out decision. Again, lazy writing and the directors needing a shock factor. What would have been cool was Dany to end like Kira did.
  5. It's funny because I also thought she was Light Yagami, but the way he descended actually made sense. They showed him killing detectives off that were following him. He knew they were innocent, but to him their deaths were necessary. There was a logical and long series of events that led to his descent into madness. Death Note is a perfect example of this idea working, but again he didn't have the lame mad targ excuse. This show/series was just lazy.
  6. Same. I've never been a huge Arya fan due to her blind love for her family, but I never hated her. Sansa and Arya were the most self-centered characters and they still got a happy ending.
  7. This is perfect. As much as I love these books, the one thing that I find annoying is this whole "mad targ" gun. So god flips a coin, but it doesn't pan out until...whenever? Then what is the use of Viserys who is so obviously supposed to be a crazy targ? Why are there no crazy Lannisters? Cersei is crazy, Tywin is the one who taught her, Jamie pushed a child out a window, Tyrion strangled his prostitute, but noooooo it's the targs that are crazy. GRRM put the mad queen plot device in there to choose if he wanted to shoot the gun later. He's stated he's a gardener who lets his characters grow, but he always had Dany's end in mind. If this is how she ends in the books then GRRM is purposefully misdirecting the audience just so he can shoot the gun and call it clever. I rooted for Dany, I still stand by her. That last 8.5 - 8.6 was NOT Daenerys Targaryen. That was the original destination GRRM had in mind. Two very different things. The creators of How I Met Your Mother learned this hard lesson as well, as their once-great ongoing series ended in disappointment (so much that no one mentions it when talking about LOST and Dexter) and everyone forgot about it. I'm not looking forward to the books if this is how it plays out. I will forget this, but I will always remember Daenerys Targaryen as how she is, not what she originally was meant to be.
  8. madhikun

    Mourning Dany

    I am definitely mourning Dany. They killed her in 8.5. They replaced her with Hitler. Worse, everyone else receives a happy ending because I guess she was the true villain this whole time. Sad that now knowing what is to come, I won't be rushing to pre order GRRM's next book. I loved that series and I loved her. She became an icon for female empowerment and they trashed her reputation.
  9. If I hear another idiot saying that slavery was "culture" that she interfered with my head might explode.
  10. I was just thinking how even when Jamie showed up and Daenerys clearly wanted to execute him, she listened to everyone's pleas for him and she kept him alive and free. He then immediately betrays her to save Cersei. AND THEN HE GETS A NICE MEMOIR FROM BRIENNE. At any time during Season 7 or 8 they could have had Dany do SOMETHING to warrant her 8.5 actions but no, she just flipped a switch. You can't defend this trash.
  11. madhikun

    Glad that’s over.

    Nothing actually done to her, but can you imagine for 7 - 8 years being the most popular icon for women empowerment to then become crazed and show how women's emotions get the best of them? Because even though we can call it the targ way, she wasn't like that until just now. && Jon is a targ but he doesn't let that change him. The fact we had two queens - both die because of their emotions make this a really crap ending. Yeah we get Sansa but she already thanked her abusers.
  12. madhikun

    Who was Daenerys turned into?

    They made her into Hitler. Why? So they could justify killing her. They had Tyrion paint all her triumphs into atrocities so Dany fans were laughed at. Really Jon is a horrible boyfriend. He killed both of his lady loves because "it was the right thing to do". Really, how is that supposed to be who we're rooting for? Screw this show. I am glad it's over and I'll likely not read the books if this is the ending.
  13. I legit cried when she died - and started bawling when Drogon pushed her corpse trying to wake her up. I wanted Drogon to blow Jon Snow to smithereens. But no, bitter is fuck you to all Dany fans, and sweet is for literally everyone else.
  14. madhikun

    Glad that’s over.

    I did, I felt a lot of it was her trying to be nice to HBO. They completely butchered her character but she not only had to act it, she had to convincingly act it and support the show. It really disgusts me what she has been put through.
  15. madhikun

    Game of Thrones legacy

    Do people still talk about How I Met Your Mother? Seriously you can't watch reruns without remembering the horrible ending. If it does, it will only be with Stark fanboys and casual viewers.
  16. madhikun

    Glad that’s over.

    It was comical how ooc Dany was. Let's go rule the world? From the girl who left Mereen because she knew that she was meant to rule the Iron Throne, not other kingdoms? I choose what good is? Says the girl who constantly had advisors because she cared about others opinions? Dany got a worse ending than Cersei. WORSE THAN CERSEI!!!! So Dany's whole quest of empowerment and kindness and struggles were all so she could die a villain? This was the writers' huge "fuck you" to all Dany fans. We shouldn't have cheered her on when she killed the slavers? Varys was right on his no-reason suspicions? That ending was not Daenerys Targaryen. I feel sorry for Emilia for having to act that horrid script.
  17. madhikun

    This ending is nothing but Bitter

    If GRRM ends up finishing the books, I recommend reading them. If he never does, don't bother. && omg I was wondering why people kept comparing her to Anakin, and it is so sad/funny how the Star Wars prequels are considered to be one of the most hated parts of a story in cinematic history, and GoT somehow gets it worse than they did.
  18. madhikun

    Who's hyped for Episode 6 for unintended reasons?

    Here for this. Ready for Jon (or Arya disguised as Jon) to kill Daenerys and for Jon's punishment to be going beyond the wall to live with Ghost. The ending is bitter because Jon who "never wanted" the throne now never gets to have it boo hoo, but sweet because at least Daenerys is dead. The sad thing is is that we may never even get the books to fix this mess. GRRM is his own person and these are his books, he really doesn't owe us anything. But oh how do I want them.
  19. madhikun

    "Bittersweet" can't happen in the show

    This is such a perfect summary of each character. I feel the same way!
  20. madhikun

    Mourning Dany

    Rewatched the episode and I am still shocked with how this all played out. We start with Tyrion going to Dany and she says "Someone has betrayed me." And we're supposed to take this as her being paranoid, but she's right. Then she says it's Jon Snow and Tyrion is all "This lady cray cray, let me coo at her." but then Dany goes into exact detail how it was Varys <-- Tyrion <-- Sansa (manipulative) <-- Jon Snow which is totally true. But she's paranoid? Also I keep finding it interesting that Jon Snow keeps repeating "I don't want it." He never says (correct me if I'm wrong) that he wouldn't take it if it was up for grabs. Varys straight up tells him that he wants Jon to be king and Jon is just cool with him trying to overthrow Dany? He doesn't tell Varys to shut his trap, he just warns him that he's speaking treachery. He doesn't even tell Dany that one of her closest advisers plans to take her from the throne. Dany up until her "snap" was completely aware of all the politics being played around her. Varys tries to overthrow her before she did anything wrong. Jon also later goes in and professes that he loves her (don't try to tell me that wasn't a romantic confession because it was!) and then he does nothing to comfort her and just rejects her. They don't even have the "you're my aunt and I'm uncomfortable with it" talk, for Dany this is status quo so she really has no clue why he rejects her for this. Did anyone think of that? I could understand her snapping, I mean she grew her army starting with Dothraki who kill and obliterate all the cities they plunder. She mainly just knows slave masters who have no value of human life. She's not even that crazy when you think of it from that perspective. Yes she may have hated those methods, but they are not new methods. Killing innocents is not a new thing at all to her. Only difference between her and anyone else she's encountered is that she has a dragon. So you can play that angle, but she doesn't even go after Cersei and the Mountain. That makes NO SENSE. Why go after the innocents first? I'm so sad because they have ruined all the other characters for me and nothing will be a happy ending for me if Dany dies. Also did anyone else go "wtf?" when they started playing sad music when Cersei and Jamie died together? Lol I have no sympathy for them.
  21. It's because she's winning. I am a huge Sansa fan - at least in the books. I liked that she learned from Littlefinger and Cersei how to play the game of thrones, but to me she is no longer a Stark. Ned and Cat are probably rolling over in their graves on how she has no honor. They completely assassinate her character but no one cares because she's a Stark so she must win. Side note - I had a friend who loves Arya and told me "I was so worried she was going to die a lot of times when Danerys started burning the city but I was so happy she got out of it alive!" * facepalm *.
  22. madhikun

    The Perfect Ending

    Someone somewhere posted something cool where we see a boat land on a shore and an old man climbs out, looks behind him and says "We've made it, Griff."
  23. madhikun

    Jon's biggest error?

    This. A hundred times this. Why was it necessary for him to tell Dany and his sisters about his parentage at this point? He could have waited and then broken the news to her.
  24. madhikun

    People are hating this episode for the wrong reasons

    And you're not going to say Dany had a similar, even more powerful journey? Sansa was an oathbreaker since day 1. She gave Jon Snow the King in the North title and he bent the knee, she already committed treason by not accepting Dany as queen. But did Dany blast her? No. She did everything she could to please Sansa who was being unreasonable. Even after Dany sacrificed her armies for the WW Sansa was still being manipulative. Sansa has no honor and capes for her rapists. I'm hoping the books go another way with her because she was one of my favorites in the books.