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  1. He preferred an honorable fool to a mad queen who burns even children. Ned II over Aerys III anyday.
  2. Well, because Jon was better than Daenerys and Cersei. The best of a bad bunch. At least Jon realized that Daenerys shouldn't be the Queen of the 7 kingdoms which includes the North too.
  3. Well, that's funny. But did it really happen though? Instead he manipulated Daenerys to fight the real enemy, then stabbed her through the heart and freed the North unintentionally because of killing her.
  4. Fresh made, these guys know how to make it;
  5. Oh right, you can always disagree and you can side with the villains, that's fine. All I am saying they already gave the answer to that question by using Tyrion, Varys and then Jon.
  6. The point is they know what a Dragon did to the Lannisters, that's the point. They knew that. Yet they still didn't abandon the city and still fought until the gates have been breached. They were going to fight until the gates have breached, that's what they didn't want to do, breaching the gates with their army and their dragon, because they didn't want to kill innocents. That's the point, and you still keep insisting on ignoring their point. They already explained why Daenerys shouldn't do that, Tyrion explained, Varys explained even Jon said she shouldn't do that when she asked what should she do in Dragonstone. The question you're asking is already answered many times in the series. Again, I tried to explain it to you the difference between sieging a castle and sieging a city, but you're either not reading it or not wanting to understand. Castles are easy to hold it, cities are not like that, especially King's Landing where million people lives, they will turn against them easily once they started to get hungry. They couldn't control a million starving people in the city, that's nothing like holding a castle, it's completely different. It's not poor writing at all, it's just you don't understand the thing they told in the series. It's not like I like D&D's writing, but this is completely fair. All Daenerys should do wait and not hurry, instead she ''kind of forgot'' Euron and get Rhaegal and Missendei killed, then she gets pissed off and attacked the whole city, and it happened exactly like what Tyrion and Varys thought it would, million people died because Daenerys's stupidity.
  7. If you followed the series then why are you acting like you don't know how loyal Lannister soldiers are? That's what they showed us, even after the Battle of Goldroad they didn't abandon the city and still fought for Cersei. Why Lannisters are still loyal to Cersei? I think there are many reasons why, but still that would be a better question than questioning the righteous siege plan.
  8. Again, you weren't following, she already demonstrated that in the Battle of Goldroad, even Bronn's whores knew what happened to the Lannisters army, yet the Lannisters still kept fighting in the King's Landing.
  9. How is that the same thing with flying over the Red Keep burning it down the castle only? She needs to attack the whole city and bring her army inside city to do that.
  10. But somehow she is, they choose to follow her, Tywin Lannister's daughter. Your opinion will not change this obvious fact, They knew what happenned in the Battle of the Goldroad and they still choose to fight for Cersei. This is not up to debate, they won't give up just because she flies over the Red Keep and burns it down, they need to attack the whole city and took it as they did in the final.
  11. Of course they will, are you serious? They kept fighting even after the city gates have been breached, they only give up after seeing the whole forces of the Northmen and the Unsullied inside the city, of course they would keep fighting.
  12. The problem is where the Red Keep is, that's what I told you, the castle is in the city, Daenerys could do that to any castle; like Riverrun, Winterfell, Highgarden, Eyrie, Casterly Rock or Storm's End, she could melt the castles and then it's over. But once Red Keep starts to get burn Cersei could escape from the castle and hide inside anywhere in the city, she could be anywhere, and Daenerys couldn't destroy Cersei and her army without destroying the whole city where thousands of innocent children lives. That was the trick, which is why the siege on King's Landing was necessary, interrupting their transportation lines and not allowing any resources to enter the city, in time people would turn against Cersei and they would rebel as they did to Joffrey once even when there was no siege. I see no military mistake on this plan. That's what should have been.
  13. Everyone would keep fighting. You are mistaken the Red Keep with the whole city. There is a large City which is King's Landing, and there is a castle in the city which is Red Keep. If Unsullied didn't enter the gates of Red Keep then Cersei could easily escape from the Red Keep. They needed to siege the city, or they needed to destroy the whole city, and they did the latter in the final which is why thousands of children burned.
  14. Losing the city would make her a powerless fugitive not losing the Red Keep, she still has Iron Fleet, Lannister army and Golden Company. The siege is necessary in any case. They still need to deal with her army. And if Daenerys flies over the city to burn the armies than innocent people would die. It's not the same with a regular siege, their soldiers would kill far less people than a dragonfire would on a city, it's not comparable at all. Tywin sacked the King's Landing when Aerys was on the throne, and as Tyrion said, Tywin still didn't kill half of the people that Daenerys killed in a single day. Again, you were not following at all, Tyrion never said KitN should go beyond the wall, Jon himself said he will, then Davos disagreed and told him not to, but Jon didn't listen, because he was right from his own point of view (he is the only one who fought with them and the Free Folk wouldn't follow anyone but Jon). Tyrion said nothing about sending Jon beyond the wall.
  15. A- You don't know if Cersei is on the Red Keep or not, even if she was there she could easily escape as they were going to do during the siege. B- Daenerys could get shot by an arrow or her dragons by a Scorpion, risking it is stupid as well as killing innocent people, surrounding the city is a much better and smarter plan even Jon agreed with that when she asked his opinion at Dragonstone. Proposing the wight hunt was smart, but then Jon get surrounded by the army of the dead and the Daenerys went there, Tyrion said otherwise, you were not following, Tyrion never said her to go beyond the wall and help them, he said no and he said they knew the risks, that was Daenerys's and Jon's fault, not Tyrion's. Both Daenerys and Jon should never go beyond the wall, she was a Queen and Jon was KitN. Trusting Cersei was a mistake, but it's not a military mistake, you said he made military mistakes. Even Jaime refused to obey Cersei after she tricked them so, I can't really blame Tyrion for that, and it wasn't a military mistake anyway.
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