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There is also the posibility that Benjen died just as Jon dreamed. He kinda had a vision the day his unbcle left.

On 1/27/2024 at 6:37 PM, The Commentator said:

Bran will live under the tree. I think Sansa, Jon, and Arya will die. Rickon will join the wildlings. Winterfell will burn down. 

Wow, that's dark.

I don't like to laught at others people theories but the ¨Jon and Val are twins¨ is just to crazy (in a bad way).

2 hours ago, Kierria said:

She did survive another fire.  At Daznak's Pit. 

But she gets burn. She burned her skun when she mounted Drogon.

Doesn't the eye color change as well?

And there shoul diferenciate between shapeshifting (Jaken) and mask wearing. Arya's endgame might be shapeshifting so there would be no ecos of the mask's soul.

3 hours ago, X-Buster said:

Dany is the protagonists.  She is the most important of the characters.  Her return to Westeros will be the biggest event of the story. 

It will be Sansa and Jon Snow who will lose relevance as the story moves forward. 

There is not one protagonist. Dany is as much a protagonist as Tyrion, Arya and Jon.

And if we count the number of chapters you realice thet se has less chapters that the three that i just mencioned.

3 hours ago, X-Buster said:

Dany is the protagonists.  She is the most important of the characters.  Her return to Westeros will be the biggest event of the story. 

It will be Sansa and Jon Snow who will lose relevance as the story moves forward. 

Wow, you are the JonCon of Daenerys

Dany is Azor Ahai but her relevance will stop when she arives to Westeros (i am refering to the white walkers plot).

Dany is more than likely AA but you give her to much importance

On 6/7/2023 at 1:26 AM, Quoth the raven, said:

The story will enter it's next act when Daenerys finally realizes she is Azor Ahai.  Five books have proven the Starks, Lannisters, Baratheons, and Greyjoys lacking the competence to rule Westeros and lead the people through the shadow and then back into the light.  Only Daenerys can do that. 

She's got the hart i'll give you that but even Robert was a better ruler.

On 5/10/2023 at 4:03 AM, Darth Sidious said:

She was the one they were waiting for. More than waiting. They orchestrated her birth by following prophecy. 

It is all Bloodraven fault.

2 hours ago, LongRider said:

This is not quite accurate; they do speak of Jon being voted in as LC.  They called Jon a traitor because of Stannis being at the Wall, which he was before Jon became LC. 

Remember the Castle Black bath scene where Jon heard Thorne, Marsh and Othell plotting?  They were discussing Tywin's plot to get Janos Slynt elected.  It they had been able to hatch Tywin's plot as they wanted to, they all would have been traitors.  Or, villains, if you wish.

There are, however, villains in the small council scene and they are Cersei and Qyburn.

Vasrious pov have different subjective opinions and that diversity of opinion validate multiple interpretations.

For my Ned is a good guy, for a diehard Targaryen fan he's just the usurper's dog.

9 hours ago, Lady Stonehearts Simp said:

Being a villain from a specific characters point of view is different between a villain in the overarching story.

Jaime isn’t a villain in the overall story but he is to several characters.

Walder Frey may not be a villain in his own mind, but he is to everyone else.

That is what i'm refering.

There is no way that after reading an Arya chapter or a Jon one you say "This is the villain of the history".

But if you read a Cercei chapter and in the small table they speack of how Jon betrayed the watch only to become lord comander you can see how in other povs he can be a villain.

3 minutes ago, Angel Eyes said:

Theoretically, Robb's head would have been sent to King's Landing per a missive by Joffrey to Grand Maester Pycelle as mentioned in the Small Council meeting after the Red Wedding. Tywin didn't exactly do anything to countermand him.

Exactly, there are people thay go full frankestein monster and say that he also has Tywin's etes and Jamei's hand, but that is to much tinfoil for me.

17 minutes ago, sifth said:

Why would Rob's head be on the Mountain's body and how did it get there?

Joffrey demanded his head from the twins and Cercei allegedly sent the mountains head to dorne.

For me all the povs are writen in a way that could make them the villains from a certain point of vew (except Ned, thats why he died).

54 minutes ago, sifth said:

I mean he will sooner or later. Everyone in the Red Keep pretty much knows who Robert Strong is, they're just keeping quite, for obvious reasons.

Unles they unmask him and find Rob Stark's head in the mountain's body.

36 minutes ago, Aebram said:

Hmm, I don't know if being logical is much help in this world. :^) 

But Thanks for the tip! By any chance, do you know where/when he said/wrote this? Got a link?

It's in the art. The name of the art depicting Dany , the pyre and the dragons is called samething like that.

GRRM also said it in som interview but no idea when or were.

@Aebram also, GRRM described the pyre as Dany being reborn. It's logical that se can't do it again.

Tinfoil theory: Euron captured and sacrified Gerion for som kind of spell. Thats how he was able to travel to Valyria.

8 hours ago, Lady Stonehearts Simp said:

She may have nothing to do with it. She is probably gonna stay in the Riverlands, hunting Freys and Lannisters. I think Arya will bring her peace when she returns to Westeros

I hope that Petyr and her reunite. The culmination of asoiaf truest love story.

9 hours ago, Hugorfonics said:

 

Yea! See it does sound fun. And Sansa would be like wtf? And they'll say it's cool Jon's really a Targaryen now besides look at Robbs will and Sansa will again say, wtf? And then they'll explain everything Jon's been through and Sansa will be like, step aside.

Lol nice.

What do you think the chances are of Stannis bending his knee to Jon Targaryen?

Na, i'm in the N+A team. And THAT would really piss Cat off.

 @Hugorfonics

I merely chose the grups for proximity. Bran is to far north to really interfere and Rickon to young to be relevant. But the theory would make Jon and Dany's histories parallel more (in a reverse way). Jon would conquer the North with an armie like the 'usurper' and the other Starke would be in exile (not due to Jon but it still counts) trying to reclaim their home.

Of course Dany is wrong because Stannis is our one true king.

53 minutes ago, Hugorfonics said:

But it sounds exciting! Why should Lannister have all the adventures? (Or Greyjoy, or Martell, Baratheons, Clegane...) 

Again I don't think it'll get pushed to that limit but like, I think close. The Jon vs Cat was heavy in agot but it's been sprinkled out since, then there's the girls who also have an antagonistic relationship. So I think through their backstory and through the future of confusion, yea we'll see some war of northern aggression, and it'll be fun and depressing!

If Eliot Carver sais it, it must be true  .

I'm guessing the sides would be Stonehard and Sansa vs Arya and Jon?. I'm curious, were would you put Rickon and Bran?

4 hours ago, kissdbyfire said:

Says who? 
 

We are in her head. If she had a warg bond we would know it.

And there are not direwolves south of the wall.

Look Preston's "dragon genetics" videos. I'm not saying they are true but you'll fin it interesting and plausible. 

There is also the posibility of a dream incursion, someone told her how in dreams (posibly her ancestors).

I think is a mix, the right genetics, a bit of luck and som mistical medeling.

14 minutes ago, Hippocras said:

There are several elements that don't quite seem to fit. They do not exclude the possibility, but they do put the conclusion Tysha is the sailor's wife into question, leaving the matter open.

1. Lanna seems to be slightly too old by the math. Possible, but just squeaks into the time window.

2. Fortune telling by blood tasting is a thing, it would not be unheard of for a whore in this world to actually have a touch of this ability since some people clearly do. A fortune teller insists that Lanna's father is dead.

3. The sailor's wife is clearly hoping that her lover will sail "back" to her, as in, he knows where she is and she does not need to go find him. Clearly Tysha would know that Tyrion is not a sailor and has no idea she is in Braavos.

I certainly consider it a possibility the sailor's wife is Tysha, but I prefer to think Lanna is Gerion's daughter. It fits better with the sailor's wife's own version of her story.

Besides, I have an alternate theory I like better.

If i remember correctly Lanna is 14 and Tyrion 27, he had her wen he was 13.

Your other points are interesting tou, but given Tyrions relationships with hores i find it very interesting for him to have a hore for a daugther.