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  1. Hugorfonics

    Purple Wedding, Finally Solved.

    Timing wont work. I dont trust Petyr but I trust time lol. Like when else? Unless you think they talked in KL, after Sansa got her hairnet but that happend in acok so it doesnt add up, plus who plots in front of a bunch of spiders? Like whom? Butterbumps or Garlen? Theyre on the same time table as Olenna Penny and her brother left, but the emotions they stirred up in Tyrion and Joff were still prevalent. Dunk describes it as a wedding pie, which makes me think of a wedding cake, which is dessert I dont see how Aegon back from the dead is much different. I mean, it was always called the First Order, writing was on the wall
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    Purple Wedding, Finally Solved.

    I mean your probably right. Its a complicated subject but yea your probably right. (Lol mans flesh, never noticed that) Idk, grrm loves his aha! moments. Like Young Griff, or Stoneheart. Playing with Davos' life like that, or Brans. Idk if that constitutes as bad writing Lol, yea it's catchy Greedy ass holes. As Petyr himself puts it When I first read it I thought Tyrion was the target in the pie and then I came here and found myself in the minority. Marge acting all chill unlike Roslin kept me convinced. When I first really looked into it I decided that LF and Olenna must have conspired when Tyrion set the meeting in acok, which I immediately thought was both the most logical and hysterical
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    Is Stannis guilty of killing Renly?

    She coulda tried. Put on the waterworks and ask to banish him to Pentos or something. Idk, it's doubtful Ill give you that, but so was Dontos Yea she did. She swore peace at the expense of another murdered victim, and didnt bluff I just meant they were similar like that. Yea I dont think Renly had the intention to defeat anybody, while relying on a northern teenager to hand him his kingdom. (I dont really care for Renly either, but I do for Stannis, even if he is a terrible person) Mance had fucking mammoths and Giants like Phil Simms. Dont sell Stannis short. This time either. Yea finest generals and knights in the back, he gave the van to his teenage lover. I mean, Tarlys not all the way in the back, not like the supplies and valuable hostages. Numbers dont mean everything Whats he gonna do then? Keep reading Neds month old letters? Put on a show like Renly? He needs men, lords. Well hes baratheon, start with Stormland Citation please. Pre Renly death. Im not saying God, you are. Im saying pussy. I mean they had to fuck, so Stannis the premeditated murderer knowingly banged Meli while thinking this is how I kill my brother, lol weird. (I mean he certainly did with Penrose). That sounds far fetched, I think she kept it ambiguous and sexy Stannis called it treason We dont know if Meli confessed (it makes Penroses sex scene better) Well idk about the monstrous scale but Stannis is a hypocrite who doesn't give a damn about justice lol
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    Purple Wedding, Finally Solved.

    Well I never said shes smart lol, Mace came from somewhere. Its another risk, one that they saw coming. So they overreached themselves and classic Sansa sang like a little bird. Then LF ratted and asked if he could marry Sansa to get a leg up on Tyrell, and I really wish I knew what Cerseis exact words were lol. But when the night finally came Olenna waddled up with confidence to ask Sansa to come to Highgarden. At the end of the day, they're still in KL. But arrogant ass Tyrells are always in the market for Growing Strong
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    Purple Wedding, Finally Solved.

    Right but we dont know if there are chemicals in the strangler thatll change its color when mixed with, say, pigeons. (A common dessert at westeros weddings). No doubt. Murder, abduction and high treason courts a big risk Believe what you will cheers Idk. Its a possibility I suppose. Idk, why would Olenna fuck with her hair then? Shae did that bad of a job? Word. Game face. They were almost definitely expecting a new mrs. Tyrell.
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    Purple Wedding, Finally Solved.

    Unless theyre drunk or fighting. Penny and her brother were excellent distractions Idk, thats speculation. Anyway, Ill take option 2 for 500. Lol Olenna had to be in on it. Petyr couldnt just make that shit up about Sansas hairnet. Word. I'm of the exact opposite opinion. Sansas the second greatest marriage prospect in the 7 kingdoms after Mrs. Hizdahr Loraq. Idk, that line sticks with me. Inviting her to Highgarden because she didnt see her husband hours before shit hit the fan. Shes the pretty girl at the party, everyone wants her Eh, half and half. Theres a facade of legality in the 7. But yea, when a murder goes down and someones missing, we got a pretty good idea who was implicated
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    Purple Wedding, Finally Solved.

    So we're talking from a legal perspective, not an a technical one. Cuz technically no doubt, brought the weapon to the murder scene. Legally, yea, if they found the hairnet but no Sansa, shes suspect number one. That was probably the goal, frame Sansa as Tyrions killer. That ties things up nicely for Petyr or Olenna, whomever manages to snag her first. But as things stand Id say shes only implicated as Tyrions, the guilty party, wife (who had mad motive and ran away)
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    Purple Wedding, Finally Solved.

    When else? Like at all, could they have conspired? Sansa gets the hairnet in acok and Tyrwll only shows up in asos, it had to be at the meeting Tyrion arranged, nothing else is possible. Then taking Sansas marriage prospect and the poisoned pie into consideriation, the evidence adds itself up All eyes were on the three dwarfs and their king, none at the random waiters or the color of one piece of dessert. We're not maesters or warlocks or whatever, what do we know of the different components to the Strangler
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    Is Stannis guilty of killing Renly?

    Thats a damphair question But do you really believe in that mumbo jumbo anyway? I agree. Its like blaming Sansa for Dontos if she didnt save him from Joff. She could have saved him, but she still didnt kill him
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    Is Stannis guilty of killing Renly?

    Facts. Renly thought the same so why wouldn't Stannis The thing was, Renly was a fucking moran. Stannis knows this, its his brother after all. We see this when Renly questionably sends his men out to battle. Renlys host was big but so was Mances Yea we see with Penrose that Stannis commissioned his assassination so hes not above playing that hand. But Penrose was after the fact So, how do you think that conversation went? Theyre on DS, and Melis like, ok ill give it up but only outside stormsend so you can kill your baby bro and therefore not lose to him in KL. Or, say go to SE and Renly will die there, and then when theyre at SE pull up to Stannis' and be like, tryna chill? When we get up to Penrose its almost evident that Stannis knew what he was doing and did, but I dont see it the first time. Thats how he handled Davos. Meli, she uh, showed him the light lol. With Stannis a kinslayer and a tool for a witch came Penrose bunking with Edric. He needs her. Plus, she proved her worth, like Davos
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    Purple Wedding, Finally Solved.

    Im with you. It appears its the pie when Joff chokes and all preliminary theories in the book is the pie, its only at Tyrions trial does the wine that Taena "saw" him spike and everyone sees him dumped get brought up Word, somethings I do too. I expect Olenna to be upset with Petyr so something may happen there. But I like the mystery too lol
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    Purple Wedding, Finally Solved.

    Like @Seams was getting at, parallels with our asos weddings. So, the bride. Ones guilty . And ones a suspect I mean look, im all for the admiration of Margaery (although she stumbled into Cerseis trap) and the belittlement of Freys. But the contrast between these two murderous brides is too great imo to think Margaery had a hand in the plot
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    Purple Wedding, Finally Solved.

    Thanks for the clarification I try to never think another poster has a knee jerk. But when you say things like I mean, im no stranger to asoiaf either. Idk, I gotta agree with @Mormont. You cant try a king for murder of an imp. Cersei would never allow it. Probably Tywin too. But I think you may be on to something, LF did have eyes on Joff. Itll cause discord, Jaime was fond of the little guy. And even if Tyrell cant call for a trial theyll at least push Tywin to curbing Joff. Probably politically. I dont think anyone really fretted over Marges safety, Ned didn't with his daughter. Plus Loras the shining knight is there. Thanks. So, it was the stranger. Oh, them. I didn't that get vibe, although I did from Slynt. Idk, I was never a Ned guy, you ask me he got his comeuppance. That man he killed in the first chapter never sat well with me. Still, you got a point I suppose. He was the main character whos got lots of fans
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    Purple Wedding, Finally Solved.

    No im not. People who call the Strangler Joffreys demise are assuming that. And even if they weren't, hows the timing between Cressan and Joff so different? They both croak fairly quickly and GRRM told us to put awat the rulers and stop watches for a reason Those aren't people. Im talking through a literary perspective, you summarized that its bad writing if a protagonist gets more play in the scenario then a secondary character, that doesnt make sense to me Yea please Dude. Your a mod. When you say "its closed", that means something. I ask again, do you have personal info from GRRM about the PW?
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    Purple Wedding, Finally Solved.

    Spectacular to hear the bells, specifically designed to sound when a king dies? And he heard Tyrion got arrested before he met up with Sansa. We dont know what he expected, but no reason for him to wild out if the plan hits a bump I did. Responded to it too. Thanks George I see no guarantee that the Strangler was Joffreys meal ticket. There are countless poisons in asoiaf, Strangler doesnt have to be the only purple one (and the timings not that bad, comparing a youth to an old man, yada yada yada) Tyrion is our main guy, (well top 5) if the story moves it moves with our protagonists. For him to be a target from Petyr, a known antagonist to Tyrion, has been a consistent theme in the books. Furthermore Sansa unknowingly marionetting the events of KL is another major theme in the books. The writing, imo, looks better with Tyrion as the target. Who really cared about Joff? ... You know not one character has ever said who Jons folks are. I mean they tell us all the time its Ned or Ashara or Daynes milkma. This doesn't make it bad writing Hmm. Like the pie. Cute. I can get that in writing and notarized? Lol seriously, am I hearing this from second hand info? Did GRRM personally tell you there wont be more info regarding the Purple Wedding? Woah! Not bad. In fact, I like it. Penny and her brother totally drew eyes to Tyrion and Joff. And with the king all confused with blood on his hands and all eyes on him and the convulsing dwarf, Sansa woulda been escaped with no eyes on her Why? Joff goes to Marge while Wylis gets Sansa the key I doubt it. I mean Dontos was called early ton his grave by Joff, but no one cares about Dontos anyway. Tyrions got a respected name. You cant just go around executing people or Joff woulda been called for Tyrions execution. Aerys needed reasons to kill his lords while Joff had to secretly order the death of Bran. Idk if kings can be found guilty, like fucking Cromwell. I guess its possible, Tyrion and Tywin both told Joff he cant do whatever he wants. Regardless, nice distraction.
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