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  1. Back on topic, The whole North Independency would only make sense if it was not Bran STARK on the throne LOL Its like….by all inheritance laws, Bran should have been the rightful Lord of Winterfell and warden of the North. Even more so, Bran should be next in line for King in the North too LOL If by any means Jon was disqualified, then Bran would be the obvious choice because he should be next in line after his older brothers. I get the feeling it was also clearly stated on the show that Jon was chosen as King in the North as Ned Stark´s bastard. So they were considering him eligible for being Rob´s half brother. If they keep following logic, Bran is the next in line. Now, we all know that Bran seems to have abdicated the North in favour of Jon during the War with the Dead. But he abdicated to Jon. And this would still be more easy to do because, again, Jon being seen as Stark, northern lords could follow him if they now consider him "legit". It is highly debatable that any Northern Lord would want to follow Sansa with both Bran and Jon alive. The whole politics would not make sense in a medieval society that follows male line first. If the North had Dornish laws, then ok! But only Dorne considers both males and females equal in inheritance laws. So, the only way Sansa could be Queen in the North is if Bran gave her consent to do so. Which…..quiet likely Bran could revoke at any moment should he say so. Sansa would technically be ruling the North for Bran. Now….if Bran does give special treatment to "his own" kingdom within the whole 7, by giving the North special powers and status, I cant see how that is not going to turn into a big mess very fast. Imagine how someone like Bronn will be like discussing why does he have to pay taxes or contribute in ways which Sansa does not. That´s going to be EXTRA FUN!!!! And one can very easily add the Iron Islands and Dorne to that mix. Hell….even the Vale and the Riverlands may well be more inclined to be loyal to Sansa then Bran. Tyrion had a former marriage with Sansa and who knows if he may be willing to try and get close again. He is no doubt closer to Sansa then he ever was to Bran. Gendry will be a wildcard with Arya gone but he too will be looking for a wife and Sansa will be a very top option. This whole thing will not last long!!!!
  2. You guys discussing a lot about Ned having a choice over Sansa...... IT WAS THE F**** KING!!!!!!! LOOOOL Good luck saying no to the king! Yes, they could. But Cat pressed Ned for many reasons but maybe also because Cat was the more dinastic and more used to court intrigue compared to Ned. Cat had an understanding that it was dangerous but it would be even more dangerous to not do it. If the Lannisters were getting ready to start killing great houses, someone needed to get close to the king and try to start undermining them. The way to get close to Robert was not to say NO to his son. Besides....Joffrey was still seen as legitimate and Sansa had a proposal to be THE QUEEN!!!! Come on....what parents would not enjoy that? See if Olenna was not ready to try it also. Being THE QUEEN is the one top thing that any girl could achieve in the known world. How could a father possibly say no to that??? And how could a mother not want that??? And how could a young noble girl not be absolutely amazed by the prospect of becoming THE QUEEN??? Watch what Maergery was willing to do in order to get there and you get a very good and plausible exemple. Most of those girls would KILL to get there. Even that the Starks are already lords of Winterfell.....there is a BIG DIFFERENCE from that to the whole 7 Kingdoms. And who is to say they will be unable to reason with Joffrey? They still do not know the extent of Joffrey´s character. They also do not expect Joffrey to be king in the next couple years, so there is time to educate him. They absolutely did not plan for Sansa to be left alone in KL. Yes, they did lots of mistakes and wrong judgements. But supporting Sansa for Queen was something that made perfect sense for all of them. One can always ask why did Cat take Tyrion and if she did not think about her daughters. But remember Cat did not expect them to kill Robert so fast. We did see Roberts reaction to Cat´s actions and he did not cal for Cat to be put in jail. Therefore Cat was perfectly safe to do as she did if Robert did not die. And in the end, their greatest mistake was not understanding how far and how fast Cersei was ready to go. Ned should have been able to get some allies between Renly and LF. We now know how everything went wrong but it was not a sure thing. Ned came in perfect range of securing power and getting things under his control. It was possible. The Lannisters did not have everyone ready to blindly follow them.
  3. There is a very big issue with the system that the show came up with. In theory it looks very nice to have Bran as an independent power and everyone will vote for the next one. But this is theory. What will actually happen after Bran? Well….Bran will have no direct heir and due to the voting system he will not be able to appoint someone who he thinks will be the best option. So the kingdoms will have to vote. But will they do it peacefully??? Hell, its even very debatable why they did it peacefully in the show. One can certainly make the point that everyone was tired of wars at that point and they were ok with voting. But imagine once they are less tired of wars…. Everyone and their dogs will be all out to try and influence votes! Hell...you have a literal mercenary leading one of the strongest kingdoms. Do you think the mercenary will be happy and just stop there? Then you have one kingdom who declared independence but somehow still had the most influence in the voting process. There is absolutely no way the other kingdoms are going to be happy with this long term. Its a true SHITSTORM waiting to blow. And then there are a couple deeper questions that everyone should be asking themselves. Question 1: If they realize how much of a God Bran now is, how do they know its intentions? From what everyone can see Bran did nothing to solve any conflicts in a more peaceful way. So why the hell do they think Bran will care to give everyone a good life? He absolutely did not care at all as far as they could see. If that was Bran´s purpose he could have told Arya to kill the NK, then Cersei, then Danny, and be done with it! Bran´s purpose is FAR FROM CLEAR to anyone! So WHY TRUST HIM? What has he really done so far to earn anyone´s trust? Question 2: Why is the North having so much power? Like….more then half the people in the voting council are either from the North or in the North´s sphere of influence. How could this be accepted or tolerated? Is it because they control the most armies? Is that even true? Is it because they faced the NK? Does that even matter for the present and future? Its 7 kingdoms…..more then half of the 7 kingdoms have nothing to feel close to the North. Both cultural and social wise the North is further away from most of the 7 kingdoms. They should be the 1 single kingdom that everyone else would have more trouble following. But somehow everyone is going to be ok with a King which is both a Stark, very closely linked with the Old Gods, a follower of northern traditions, the brother of the independent Queen in the North. Sure Dorne, the Iron Islands, Highgarden, the Crownlands, are all be very happy to follow this guy. No doubt!!!!!
  4. Back on topic, Independence for the North could make sense if they did not place Bran as King of the whole kingdoms. Both things seem very unlikely to happen at the same time. As stated, the North may have issues with following some foreign kings. They have said so and it´s understandable. But they would not have issues following Ned Stark´s boy. Bran would be the logical heir for the King in the North position. And if Bran now wants to be the king, he would have both the right name and the support from the North. Sansa would be seen as some kind of traitor because she had been married to both Tyrion and Bolton. One was a foreigner, the other the North´s public enemy. Plus, Sansa has been politically very tied with The Vale which does not look like a very independent position. I know she helped restore the North but she did so with a foreign army. She is also much more Tully like. The North would likely enjoy Arya more then Sansa. And they would never favour Sansa over Bran. I believe the show did a "cool and bad ass" thing with either or both Bran and Sansa. I suspect Bran is going to be much more tied to the North. As far as we know he will need to stay and turn into a tree. Maybe at Winterfell but I don´t see it being at Kings Landing. As for Sansa, it makes sense for her to end up with lots of power. But I kind of see her with a very big chance to end up as a Queen regent with Tyrion. They may still be married in the books and their union may be a very welcome one for all other kingdoms. It may be awesome to have Starks and Lannisters at peace and sharing power. I can see all houses willing to support that. If they will have kids or not is something else. But I see them as very possible regents at the end.
  5. Yes, the whole conflict is bananas!!!!! Pretty much the only thing Jon had to do was say that he abdicated in favor of Dany. Which by the way he seemed pretty happy and likely to do. So, she should have had no fear on his side. Not at all! Ok, there may have been issues with their more romantic relations. And yes, Dany may have been pretty sad about that. But she would not be against Jon or in fear of Jon given that he always supported her. Dany had no single instance where she could think that Jon was after her throne. If he wants his true identity to be known, that´s pretty much not relevant if he also keeps supporting her. The only real danger is that someone could think about murdering her to have him solely ruling. But that issue would also likely come to be if she was made Queen and he was at her side. Him not being a Targ would not stop him from being the King consort and thus being a possible candidate for power. If Cersei could get into the throne just by being Robert´s widow, so could Jon Snow! Therefore...Jon being Targ or not should have been irrelevant for Dany as long as he kept supporting her. And if he decided to go against her, him being Targ or not would again make no big diference. He could also go against her just being Jon Snow, King in the North.
  6. On the negative side, One of the murdered characters is precisely Tyrion. The same Tyrion who outsmarted everyone for seasons, now cant have a good idea. All his plans are foolish or just not on the level of his enemies. Also, the same Tyrion who had it in himself to kill his father, now wants to make truce and talk with his sister. The same sister who hates him even more then his father and he is well aware of it. The same sister who wanted to kill him, who would threaten him all the time. And this is the one player with whom he wants to be reasonable with? Only because he now is "The most moral man in the universe" He is no longer Tyrion Lannister And remember about Game of Thrones "you win or you die" remember that, and then think that having a truce and dealing with Cersei is exactly on the same level of stupid that Ned Stark was. Now, present day everyone knows how he ended. Everyone should know how the High Septon ended, how Maergery ended. So why the hell do they all want to die???
  7. My vote goes as 6 Reason behind: Its still a fun show to watch so I had to be on the positive side. Its also something that I will likely like to view again someday, maybe only the key moments but its still something. So positive it is. It cant be more then a 6 for me because of the storytelling. And yes, I am on the train of plot holes and incoherent characters. I can often find myself laughing at times. As for the episode, one of my remarks to a friend was: So now Tyrion is on the Undead side? Because if it was not for is absolute shit plan they would never have gotten past the wall. Now lets deal with it....this is what show logic has created. Which...is fun and all that but...just fun.
  8. If the same issues show up on the books, be sure they will be criticized. I dont know if you have noticed but book fans have been critic on the latest books. Its overall consensus that up till a Storm of Swords, the quality of pace and writing was much better. The problem you have is that for some reason you dont want critics. But critics are a good part of life. They help us grow. If we stop discussing stuff and getting diferente views, then we stop evolution. So let people have their views. Martin himself has been fairly criticized for getting into kind of a bottleneck in is narrative. We still dont know how he intends to get free from it and he does not look very eager to even try.
  9. People should refrain from saying things for which they do not have proper knowledge. I am in no way advocating Incest. But genetics do not work in the way you say. There is indeed a chance of issues but its by no means a strong one at start. It takes generations for the DNA to really get messed up. Because if you dont have generations of Incest behind, your DNA material is still pretty widespread. You likely dont know but DNA material goes back several generations so you can absolutely generate someone who is a copy of your great great uncle. I am no specialist in genetics but I do am a specialist in history. As example, all greatest Egiptian rullers were born from brother and sister. The first successful female ruller, Hatshepsut was one of such examples. There are many others. Europe is also full of examples. You maybe will just focus on the Habsburg family which did generate a congenit blood issue. But focusing on the Habsburgs would be to forget there were plenty other families. And by the way, it took the Habsburgs a couple generations to get this trait concentrated that almost everyone had it. When all is said and done, if you did not have modern medicine, it would be more dangerous to have a kid from a stranger after lets say 35 years old, vs having a kid from your cousin at 20 years old. The first thing would have a far greater chance of killing you and the baby if you did not apply modern medicine.
  10. I will give it a 7 It is still really good television and I was close to giving an 8. The thing that keeps me from going into higher grades is that the show seems to keep its tendency to not be really made as a whole from episode to episode and now from season to season. Things are set up one way, then they change, then they change again.....it is still great, but there seems a lack of overal management. Like several people are giving inputs to adapt the story and no one can clearly get everything fit together. The example on this episode was quite clear at the start! Lucky enough everything else was great but the start was simply too disconected from last season. Sam starting where he does, ghost showing up out of nowhere, Lord Comander asking Sam for the ravens we didnt even know about before......it almost seems someone had seen a different season 2 ending before writting this one and someone forget to tell them they ended up editing it differently. But ok, rant away...Almost everything else is great for me and this is still great TV by all accounts. Jon / Mance: I´m ok. Not too enthusiast but it still works well enough. I am on board with all who think Jon is a bit emo but we will have to wait and see Bronn / Whore: Broon is amazing so I am all well with having more from him. At least he was a character on the book so if he is working better on the show, so bit it! Unleash him! Lets have him around more then. Tyrion / Cersei: meh....nothing special. What could be said about this scene is "nothing happens". Not a particular good scene for either Cersei or Tyrion also. Still...the line "still makes me more clever then you" deserved to be on screen and makes this worth the time :) Bronn again: yeahhhhh! I stand by my previous statement: Bronn works well on screen, lets have him! no issue with it. Davos / Salador: Nice scene altough this one makes me wonder about Salador....why could we not see him at the Blackwater somewhere if he was to still be in the show and be used now? And he felt quite in place in this episode. But was this the second and last scene from him? If this is so....allas....the character had potential I think. I am still feelling I would have liked seing him at the Blackwater maybe at the end trying to lead some rearguard action or ordering someone to come with him for Stannis. Robb at Harrenhall: Ok, fair enough! Makes total sense considering the plot changes on season 2. My take here is well played considering where they decided to go with the show. And when they play it well, I have no issue. Still....from my personal view, I dont like this Robb and the way he relates to his mother. I guess it can make sense considering its an older Robb....maybe....just maybe. But this really messes up the relationship bettween Robb and Cat or at least seems to. But as this is GOT, most likely next episode it will be like Robb never arrested Cat at all.....and I dont know if I just hope for that or not. Tywin / Tyrion: Great amazing perfect scene!!!! WELL DONE!!!! But...allas....this scene seems now a bit disconected after where they went with Tywin on previous seasons. Tywin seemed to recognize Tyrion at the end of season 1, he also seemed a lot nicer all along season 2. Well....it´s nice to see we have the real Tywin back. Where was he????? Charles Dance is trully something to behold tough. And I am 100% confident he can take Tywin the right way now if they let him. Hope they let him keep the style now. Sansa / Shae / LF / Ros: meh again. I think removing Dontos makes sense. Seems like something necessary or at least wise to do. But having Shae and Ros there in his place doesnt make for a necessary better deal....at least for me. Havin LF revealing himself I can take it and understand it. Gives him a lot more to do now and I am totally fine with having more of him around. Just, please, dont make him do stupid stuff like on season 2. If we can sail clear from that, I am fine with him being a bit more 1st stage. Ros can stay but please get her something better to do. She is still not a character and still maybe a "most used prop"....would they care to give her a character if they insist she has to stay around? Shae is still different from the book but at least she keeps consistent so I will give them the credit and wait to see where she will end up before judging if its a good story or not. Dany / Jorah: Nice to see the dragons and the seasick Dothraki. Davos / Stanis / Mel: I enjoy Davos. Stanis does really nothing for me. But I think this is well done and looks good on tv. Blaming Davos is consistent with the show. Makes Davos a bit less awesome as he was in the books but that awesomness was already lost when they decided to go this way in season 2. Glad they keep consistent here! Good scene to me. Marg / Joff / Cersei / Loras: Enjoyed everything! Well done!! And they have me on board Marg train so my respect for that. I am now totally ok with the actress and the way they are going with Marg. Feels quite good storywise. Danny and Unsullied: GOOD!!! Not exactly like the book but cool enough and the main message was there. Perfect for me! Barristan / murder: I have no problems with the murder atemp being from the warlocks. Makes sense inside the show. The Barristan reveal was cool to see so as for the moment I am an happy camper about it. Feelling could change depending on how this will impact the mechanics bettween Danny / Selmy and Jorah. But for now was well done and I am willing to take their train if it goes somewhere on track (even if not exactly by the book).
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