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Agreed. If it's not in the books, shouldn't be in the wiki to start with.

We've turned it off for now. Thanks for the report.

Yeah, the upgrade finally allowed us to turn that off. We're a discussion forum, not an art installation. Sorry for those who like the embeds.

See the forum upgrade post in announcements.

Yes. It's been reported as a bug but not sure if it's something they've fixed yet.

I deleted things fairly aggressively to deal with what I thought the problem was, but in fact it was the fault of a broken Tapatalk install. That has been disabled until further notice.

Looks like some sort of permission issue, but I can't quite figure out how it works. Will pint Sparks to this.

I believe I've resolved the issue, but am not certain... and it's almost 5 AM here, so can't stay up too much longer. If you see a thread that does not seem to be updating properly (i.e. you post, but when you look at the sub-forum index it does not show your post as newest post), please report the name of the thread here.

Okay, reported this to the maker of the software. Not sure quite what the issue is, but I'm sure they'll solve it.

Can you give me an example of a forum that does this?

It's down right now. We upgraded and ran into problems. Haven't had time to test if we've got it fixed.

I think forum index updating is not done in real time, but it updates at certain intervals. That would explain what you're seeing. I'll double check that, however.

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Yeah, that was me forgetting that Recent Changes is populated by a script that Mediawiki runs. It had only gone back to March 11th when I first looked and posted, but yeah, now it's populated it the rest of the way.

Yeah, those are alas going to have to remain lost, they were basically going to the wrong database. Sorry about that! But fortunately there were just a handful of edits. Thanks again to Rhaenys for pointing the problem out.

@Rhaenys_Targaryen Correct. In fact, we've done the sync up and it SEEMS like it worked. However, for some reason it seems to have lost the list of recent changes -- it ends on March 11. Could you poke around and see if it's actually up to date, if you know of any pages edited on the 10th or earlier? ETA: Okay, it does look like it's updated right, it's just that Recent Changes isn't quite working correctly, but if I look at pages edited before the 11th I can see their revision history is correct. It can now be edited again.

Rhaenys, Wow, thanks for noting that. It was a mistake in which DB we were pointing to. We should have it corrected now, but until we can get the database synced up we're going to set the wiki read-only for now (aka no edits).

@The Wondering Wolf I feel like it sounds like that Wikia has a problem with its permissions situation for art. I'm afraid without approval of someone with the right to approve its use on the wiki, we shouldn't use the image(s).

Just noticed that a couple of items on the front page -- Featured Article and Did You Know -- are not rendering right. I'm not quite sure why, but if someone who understands the templates can look at it, it'd be great. Re: House Ball, An interesting quirk of George's heraldry is that when he says 'chevron', he means what in our world is the 'chevron inverted'. This is due to a misunderstanding on his part more than anything, I think, but regardless when he blazoned the Ashford arms with a chevron, and we did the standard chevron, he indicated that he wanted it pointing down.

Guests can't post. Report post does work, yes.

Huh. Sounds odd. I shall report this, as it seems to be a bug.

Can't really change the mobile skin at all, I think, though maybe some edits could be made to CSS alignments. I'll have to look into that. I believe it very deliberately eschews the use of most templates, however, to create a lean, clean design suitable for mobile. As to the timeline question, at root is a bit of uncertainty in the time of the first rebellion, as I have George on record giving the 196 date... but you're quite right that a lot of other things seem to point to 195. I think it's going to have to wait for George to have some time free to get it sorted out.

What device are you using, and are there any ads that seem in common when that happens?

@Sly Wren The family tree that I noted is actually an electronic file for MyHeritage, and so it doesn't contain information like "believed dead". That's stuff George adds when he writes up the appendices, I suppose.

Nittanian, That remark from GRRM was based on GR's first books. As I said, George is not as involved in them as he once was, and Per Referencing and Canon, information in semi-canon sources needs to be verified as coming from George. "... origin with Martin must be an estalished fact, not assumed". Rhaenys, Sometimes the people who got the permission to put up the images add a quote or note to the images directly citing the permission the artist gave. If that doesn't exist for any of her images, it's probably safest to approach her about some new image(s), and perhaps get her to confirm that she's still okay with the previous images being used.