What? Really? I loved that scene in the book. I'm just sorry it wasn't verbatim. Still it was quite good. All the hate around here, too. I enjoyed that episode more than any other this season. Yes, I've read the books, too. I'll give it a 9 but I don't know what kind of rating system is going on when the show can get an 8 and still "suck". The only thing this season, if I had one wish, I'd add would have been the Quorin/Jon adventure. It kind of portrays Jon as a whining screw up, and I would have liked him and halfhand to have had their exchange in the cave.