Florent Vixen

The thing I find well offensive is the word that comes to mind first about Ellaria wanting to hurt Myrcella for revenge is that hurting an innocent girl is the last thing Oberyn would want. Show or book Oberyn. The death of Elia and her little daughter was so traumatic for him and Doran. Myrcella had nothing to do with Oberyn's death and she can't help who her family is. Ellaria was Oberyn's soulmate her thirst for revenge would never triumph over being true and acting according to his values and ethics. I have no problem with Ellaria seeking to avenge Oberyn or her character merging with other characters but that doesn't mean she has to be turned into a shrieking shrew. I was cringing during that scene. I found it unbelievable that Ellaria would speak to Doran that way. Show Stannis and Jon are good like book Stannis and Jon are good. Seeing JH's face made me think fondly of past Syrio is dead fights uhm I mean discussions, Syrio is dead discussions. Yes, I accept that he's dead. Though maybe not on tv. Who knows? Crazier stuff has happened is all I'm saying.

Loras is gay. I never picked up on that. Thanks D&D!

I give it a 8 and think it was generally satisfying. Better than the RW. I was hoping it would be more chaotic and that Joffrey would be more foaming at the mouth making a fool of himself crazy. The Queen of Thorns & Oberyn were very good. Jaime/Bronn was good. Cersei/ Brienne scene. WTF? Fat Walda! Hopefully, Ramsay won't kill her. She's one of the less odious Freys and harmless. The actor that plays Roose is very good. Mel/Shireen scene, blah. Not sure where they're going with Selyse. But I doubt they hired a name actress like Tara Fitzgerald to just be unpleasant boring book Selyse.

8 leaning towards a 9. Liked Oberyn, Arya and the Hound best. Opening scene was good.

Also when I see Joffrey with a crossbow on the show I think of Jaime's line in the books about the crossbow being a cowards weapon. I didn't like the character of Ros. She was just there to provide obligatory HBO nudity. But I think how they killed her off was cheap, cynical and sensationalistic. Joffrey is a psychopath. Big news!

I don't believe for a second Tyrion is going to kill Shay on the show. He's a hero on the show. Tywin will either have her killed or she'll be shipped off to parts unknown. Davos will likely save Gendry as he saved/ instead of saving Edric Storm in the books. But I can't imagine why Gendry would want to go back to the Brotherhood. Mel was working her creepy "charm" this episode. But it was weird having her have scenes with Thoras and Arya.

I gave it a 9, the best episode this season so far. Arya, Beric and Thoras excellent. Arya and Gendry touching. Tara Fitzgerald is a very good actress and she and Stephan Dillane were great together. The little girl playing Shireen is wonderful and I thought the scene with her and Stannis was very moving. I've never doubted Stannis loves his daughter. Also loved Shireen and Davos. The Robb stuff was good. I was very happy to have the bath scene included. I thought Nic and Gwen were great and it captured the scene from the book very well. Thought the Loras scene was cheap. Tywin and his kids, perfect.