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DarkAndFullOfTurnips

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  1. I think this is it. From all the previous scenes with Olenna and Margaery, we've seen that Olenna is extremely wilfull, quick to act or talk, and Margaery is always trying to reign it in and is more careful/courteous. It's the same here, I think, where Olenna is all like ok this kid sucks let's kill him and Marg thinks...Isn't that a bit drastic and risky? It's the Tyrell Spectrum, the oaf without a clue Mace, the level-headed, pragmatic Marg, and the too-clever and dangerous Olenna.
  2. That event is so monumental and contraversial that it would be beyond stupid to change it. I feel like people are a bit misled about D&D. They're not petty fanboys trying to make some characters better than others to satisfy some silly agenda (Like make Stannis look like the devil or make Tyrion look like an angel). You can disagree with a lot of their choices as I do, but there has never really been any question whether Tyrion will kill Shae. You know what's better for ratings and generating a buzz than having a loveable, witty dwarf? Having a lovable, witty dwarf that just strangled his lover and killed his father.
  3. I imagine being in council meetings and having to deal with him in general would make anyone despise him relatively quickly.
  4. I voted 8. I thought it was a great episode for one main reason: They've successfully tied together so many old arcs and histories since season 1 so that the story as a whole seems complete, and moving on logically from the aftermath of all the crap that happened in the first three seasons. It's as if after 3 years the characters have reunited, and we revisit the stories from when they initially left off at the beginning of the war. We had: - Tywin sees Jaime since he fled the capital after fighting Ned and awards him with a reforged version of the sword with which he fought. Only Jaime isn't quite the same man. - Brienne meets with Margaery to discuss Renly's death after fleeing out of fear of being accused, some possible relationship there. - Jon is back at Castle Black after 2 years, perspective changed, but the wall is more or less the same, so there'll be some friction there as well as an upcoming battle. - Arya gets revenge against Polliver and retrieves the blade Jon gives her in Episode 1/2, literally and symbolically arming herself for the future. - Sansa reunites with Dontos, the man she saves in S02E01, who looks to play some role in her misery in KL. - Many mentions of Stannis Baratheon's siege and defeat. It just seems that the story has now reset, and we're moving into the new act, but they did a great job of bringing everything together to remind the audience of how all the characters tie in together, and to show the aftermath of all the events we previously watched. It's a wonderful setup episode, and I'm really looking forward to the upcoming episodes.
  5. It needed to be brought up this season for Marg/Sansa to work, and to avoid it coming out of the blue early next season (Oberyn, Mace Tyrell) but it couldn't possibly be done this year since it would've been extremely rushed and void of important characters that need to be there.
  6. How would Bran, Jon, or Rickon even know about it though? Any other northerner we like is dead or not featured yet.
  7. GRRM talks about Dany taking Westeros for like fucking 15 years. Is that bad storytelling?
  8. This episode would've averaged probably a full point higher had they skipped the crowd surf that everyone apparently hates. I didn't like it either, but that's the last thing we saw and for that alone it had more impact than any other scene. It's unfortunate, because I watched it again and actually really liked it. If it ended on anything but some irrelevant slave freeing as part of a boring and drawn out narrative of a character who is basically dealing with incredible morons (while everyone else in Westeros is trying to out position and scheme around with cunning), I would've thought it was a great episode. Sticking with a 7, though. I believe S4 will be even better than S3 and despite the obviously forthcoming amount of deviation could top S1 if done well. That being said I'd put S3 significantly ahead of S2 whole still quite short of S1, even with the dramatic increase of production value.
  9. Now I guess this might be rude. Your inability to accept that an adaptation will have changes from the source material, some or most of which you may dislike, is seriously hindering your ability form and express logical and thoughtful arguments about the rest of the episode and show as a whole. Having Talisa stabbed in the belly is obviously emotion bating. It is not "trying to overshadow Cat" for the reasons you've quoted but also chose to ignore.
  10. The focus of the episode was really Robb and Catelyn. It even starts with them. I think it's unfair to say the writers want to "Focus solely" on Robb+Talisa when Cat gets the majority of the screen time in the wedding and is the last shot of the episode.
  11. This is the realization I think we all face, and then we can choose either to continue hating things that aren't done like the book, or accept that some things are not possible, better, worse, or just different, but still enjoy the show as a relatively independant piece of work. I made the choice to ignore my book purism during S2 when everything seemed to be changing. In fact I was so livid at Dany's story, which I still think sucks, and was really aggravated at how they changed it. Then I reread aCoK and realized Dany's story just sucked in general, and from then on I accepted that I could enjoy the show and the books separately. Of course there are some things they change that either make no sense or are failed attempts at improving something. It's not really the place to discuss those things, but I guess we never lose our book prejudice, you can just choose to separate the two which I've found provides a much more enjoyable experience.
  12. Well I don't see how it matters if he was more injured in the book? It's a book...Things don't seem as silly as when you see them on a screen. Robb being able to do anything minutes after taking at least 2 bolts in his chest is pretty impressive. Not to mention in the show he actually loves Talisa, as opposed to sort of loving Jeyne in a teenage way, so the mental breakdown is worse on top of it all, because Jeyne wasn't even there. And I'm not sure how I'm being rude by telling you that you're arguing a point that you could've easily figured out was not correct had you just taken the very little time to look it up. There's no malign intent there. I just think it's odd to argue something that you could've easily found out to be untrue. It would be like me saying the Blackfish never said he was going to go piss he just disappeared.
  13. Since you have internet access it's a pretty easy thing to look up the scene or images of the scene to determine whether or not your observation was correct to begin with.
  14. Well then I would watch it again. He has one bolt through his right tit, shot from his front and one shot from behind him that seems to be millimeters above his heart. He probably has more in his lower body that you can't really see. They show him being hit by at least 3.
  15. And no weapon. And trying to make a heroic saving last act would just get her killed.
  16. Well this question is pretty difficult to answer without giving away details. The way I would look at it is that we know the North is pretty huge. Cersei makes a comment to Joffrey in S1 that its too large to be held by an outside force. Given its size there are most likely a lot of houses, perhaps not as major as Bolton or Karstark, that we just don't know yet. So the chances of Starks ruling the North again rest solely on whether the Ironborn can be defeated in the North, which you'd think even the conspiring northerners like Roose Bolton will want to do, and whether there are other Northern houses that will try to rally against Bolton and co. and restore a Stark to power. Right now the only possibilities are Bran and Rickon, who would have to be found and also not be presumed dead as they are now, or if Jon Snow was to be legitimized as a Stark, whose vows to the Night's Watch poses a major complication to that.
  17. I generally think show Jon has been lacking in S2 through now but this episode Jon was more Jon than ever so it's odd to bring that up this episode. Maybe you just don't like Kit's face? I know he's a heartthrob to the ladies but I could see finding his face annoying lol.
  18. "This Oberyn guy seems pretty badass! He's totally kill that Mountain guy...I can get behind him! Dorne seems pretty interesting if more people are like him." Basically the same as my reaction before the trial.
  19. I'm obviously guessing - but I would bet they tried to have the band play badly and it just sounded so terrible that it was unbearable to even watch the scenes, or their bad playing wasn't even that bad and ultimately they decided against having them play sort of badly, just make the songs recognizable. Also @ the moral discussion - honor and whatever is generally good in the long run, whereas ruthlessness and treachery is good in the short run. That's basically my viewpoint, and that neither matters when you have 3 dragons.
  20. It's not as easy as copying text from a book to adapt something of this scale on premier televisions. Of course much of the credit goes to GRRM, if not the majority, for creating the story. But there's a lot more to making a show adaptation than just not fucking something up. You have to actually produce so much outside of a fantasy world where you can write just about anything and voila it just appears.
  21. I 100% percent expect at least Wylla's or Wyman's comments to be in the show, though. They do happen later in the story. Actually I expect both. Davos will hear it from both, I think. Considering D&D wanted to get here so much, they must also want to show at least the fallout from the RW. I'm going to go out on a limb and say Wylla's little rant is the most emotionally impactful part of those 2 books. At least it was to me.
  22. So the whole "How many years I've signed for" is definitely worrying, at least at face value. Of course it's not actual confirmation but I'm super paranoid now, although if Michelle is trolling it will only make me love her more. I was never that huge of a fan of LS in the books, but after watching and reading the unsullied reactions, I think the theme that vengeance and justice is coming would be really powerful. In fact, without it, I don't see how they can close the season in an intriguing enough way for people to think "Oh shit I have to watch next year!" After the RW and the general downer feeling everyone has after it, not to have the PW or its aftermath and no LS would just be...dull. Oh Robb and Cat were just murdered and the North is lost? Who cares Dany conquered a city no one gives a shit about!! Right?!
  23. Well she appears to Dany and gives her some more unnecessarily vague and obscure advice . It would've been cool to see her again, but prophecy isn't such a big part of the show, and I don't really know what purpose she serves other than providing a thematic tie in to arbitrary clues provided in the text regarding what may or will happen in the future.
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