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  1. DarkAndFullOfTurnips

    [Poll] How would you rate episode 608?

    I usually hate people that say this kind of thing but I'm pretty confident I could've written a better episode than this. I don't understand how Arya is outrunning anyone. Or why she was apparently such a retard last episode. I don't understand the point of Tyrion, Grey Worm, and Missandei scene. I don't understand why Jaime couldn't have just stuck to his book dialogue and why they made it about Cersei. I don't understand how the BwB even knows about White Walkers. Why would you have the Blackfish die off screen? So much disappointment. The show no longer makes any sense. Worst episode of the whole series. I guess 3/10.
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    [Poll] How would you rate episode 604?

    Most people just take issue with those who constantly complain about how much they think something sucks but yet insist on watching it just to go on the internet and complain about it. It would be like me going on a Taylor Swift forum to complain about how much I fucking hate her music.
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    [Poll] How would you rate episode 604?

    How else was she supposed to get out of that situation? Either Drogon comes and roasts the Dothraki or she pulls off another miracle. How do you think GRRM is going to have her survive the Dothraki horde confronting her? With her wit and incredible leadership? The story set her up for another one of these moments, and thankfully she didn't just have Drogon come and rescue her again, something that happened 5 episodes ago.
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    [Spoilers] EP602

    The NW is not very much respected at all. Ser Alliser Thorne was laughed out of King's Landing. No Southern Lords ever listen to their pleas for more help. Barely any Northern lords do either. Only the Starks seem to really give enough of a shit. The entire theme of Jon's story in book 1 was accepting his new misfit family of dishonored men, thieves, and rapists. If the NW were so respected people would willingly join them often, rather than having them recruit the riff-raff from dungeons and have the occasional 4th son or bastard of a Lord be sent to take a position of command.
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    How would you rate episode 602?

    8/10. I was worried about this episode/season because the beginning was pretty questionable, but it really got much better and gladly a lot of things are actually happening as opposed to just setting up future events. Things I liked: 1) Ramsay offing Roose. Perhaps it's not going to happen in the books, but it felt like something that was bound to happen. Roose has been known to make questionable choices that almost seem intentionally disastrous by nature, so him keeping around Ramsay isn't a surprise. And Ramsay reacting that way is pretty in-character knowing his life was in jeopardy. 2) Final scene. It's hard not to like some confirmation of Jon's resurrection and I was sitting in suspense despite being 99% sure he would be revived. I liked the parallel's between Melissandre and Thoros' lack of faith and the Lord of Light answering their call. 3) Tyrion freeing the dragons. I would've expected to dislike this because it's so different than the reality of what happened, but it was a pretty decent plot device that allows them to skip the Quentyn Martell idiocy. It's good to establish Tyrion's love for dragons as GRRM has made several references of it, and there is foreshadowing of Tyrion even being a dragon rider. The fact that Tyrion easily took off the collar bolts was a bit ridiculous but it's a small thing I can suspend belief for. 4) Theon's admissions of guilt, particularly for betraying Robb, and declaration that he can't face Jon or be forgiven for his actions. Sansa's reaction was a bit odd to me, given that Theon's actions directly influenced Robb and his mother's demise, so I'm not sure forgiving someone should be that easy. I would've liked to see more of a conflicted but still cold response from her. 5) Jaime versus the High Sparrow was a nice scene. I also liked Tommen and Cersei's exchange...Cersei is about to go off and it sets up the Lannisters vs. Faith conflict quite nicely. 6) Euron. I just loved this scene despite it not being confirmed canon. Euron delivered his lines well and should be a great character. Things I disliked: 1) The wildling coup seemed a bit rushed and anti climatic. There was virtually no setup for it. I like not being spoonfed a plot but I think one scene of Edd meeting Tormund would've been better. 2) Bran's visions were cool but I can't help but feel there could've been a more compelling vision to him before the TOJ one next week. Bloodraven is also not creepy or intriguing enough. He just seems like an old professor. 3) Some of the dialogue is not clever still. Tyrion is much more witty than having to make a no dick joke every chance. Asha's words after Balon's death were cheesy. There's some good writing but just some corny and bad stuff mixed in which throws me off.
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    [Book Spoilers] EP510 Discussion

    The best we can hope is that they just totally couldn't handle cutting down the two books and finding interesting plots for TV, and that the future seasons being based on single books will be more focused especially with the book plots (hopefully) being more direct. My issue is what's going to happen with no book material to follow and quote...I'm actually terrified despite the fact that I assume the final two books will translate better to screen.
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    [Poll] How would you rate episode 510?

    Benioff's work is decent After the show came out I ready City of Thieves which was actually better than I expected. I guess Weiss wrote a couple novels but I've never heard of them. I guess he came along in the package with Benioff.
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    [Book Spoilers] EP510 Discussion

    Of all the flashbacks they could've done it does seem a bit unnecessary. So we know her children will die and she was a bitch from an early age I suppose. Doesn't seem to really be any point to it.
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    [Book Spoilers] EP510 Discussion

    I'm not sure why you're even bothering to argue, his argument is ludicrous.
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    [Book Spoilers] EP510 Discussion

    They are falling into the trap the writers want them to fall into. It's much more impactful if you actually think he might be dead and it has everyone talking about it. There is absolutely zero logical basis to think Jon Snow's story is done. The actors and writers have no choice but to sell the death otherwise it's completely pointless as a cliffhanger.
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    [Poll] How would you rate episode 510?

    It's kind of hard to develop when you've spent the entire season waiting outside a castle looking for a candle.
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    [Poll] How would you rate episode 510?

    I don't really have much faith in their writing, but their casting is very good. Chances are they cast him well and he carries the performance despite D&D giving him questionable lines and making him one-dimensionall
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    [Poll] How would you rate episode 510?

    That's not necessarily true. You can change what characters are doing if you follow the same logic and motivation that character has displayed and grown into over time. It just requires an attention to detail as well as careful planning and thinking. You also shouldn't force situations to occur on shaky logic because it will make it easier for you to do, that's how you ruin a show.
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    [Poll] How would you rate episode 510?

    I voted 5 which was my lowest for this season, and I think any episode so far. 5 was perhaps a bit generous, I may go lower on rewatch. My thoughts on this episode and this season, though I'm sure many of them have been echoed in one of these 30 pages: 1) Jon Snow's "death" is too simplified. There is no reason to cut out him wanting to go south and interfere with Westerosi politics. It takes virtually no time to execute and overall paints a much more nuanced and complex picture of why Jon would be betrayed. In fact it raises the question, at least, if the brother of the NW were justified as opposed to being treacherous assholes. The writing of that scene in the books is easy to pull off, there is no budget or time constraint to prevent making that a powerful and thought-provoking moment. I honestly can't believe how bad they executed it. They didn't need to have Wun Wun go crazy and chaos in CB, they could've kept the same effect and reasoning with a couple of lines of dialogue. For the biggest moment in the season they lazily rushed it as if they didn't have enough time to do it properly - IT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST SCENES OF THE SEASON! 2) Arya's part was ok. We really didn't need Meryn being even more of an asshole but at least it didn't take that long. I don't have too much to complain about but I was confused as hell when she starts ripping off multiple faces and then sees her own. I honestly have no idea what was happening there. Perhaps someone can explain that to me. 3) Dorne was a colossal failure. Doran had virtually no reason for existing. What was the point of his scenes with Ellaria if she was going to poison Myrcella anyways? Doran will find out and will kill her as he promised. What a stupid plot. Jaime has no personal development at all and looked incredibly useless all year. What was the point of his S3 and S4 arcs? They completely went to waste. Bad pussy? That made it into the script? I would've refused to film that line. All in all the whole sub plot made no sense. We wasted all of that time so Myrcella just gets killed in the end for a sappy moment where she's perfectly fine with being lied to her whole life about her father? Ludicrous. 4) Sansa and WF was...I'm not even sure how to react to it. I liked the idea of using Real Sansa instead of Jeyne for the show's purposes. It had a lot of potential, actually. In the end I don't know what to make of how it played out. The only person who really did any development as a character was Reek, and even then it was quick. Sansa is in the same exact spot she was before the season started. I would have overlooked LF's inherently stupid decision to leave his prized possession had they made the WF/Sansa plot interesting. There was nothing interesting about it in retrospect. How about showing 1 or 2 scenes where Sansa actually does something noteworthy? Maybe she outsmarts Ramsay or Roose, or garners support from the common northerners? What was the whole point of "You have friends here, the North remembers?" Who remembers? Who the fuck is she talking about? As far as we know the only people who rememebered anything was herself and Brienne who isn't even from the North. They planted that scene in the first or second episode for what reason? Why is there no mention of any of these Northern houses who oppose the Bolton rule and would be glad to help Sansa? You don't have to show them all but at least mention them. 5) What happened to the Karstarks? The Umbers? You've mentioned White Harbor but who the fuck rules there and what are they doing? What happened to the Freys? What happened to Edmure? What about the Blackfish? How can you leave these things unresolved for years? Why is it more important to show Oberyn's daughters than it is to tie off the loose ends you've created, if even just with a couple lines of dialogue ("Oh the Freys are coming to see Sansa Stark wed" -- You don't even have to show us them, just let us know you didn't forget they exist)? Why would you tell us the Boltons are in a precarious situation without setting that scene? It seems Roose is in complete control and is unstoppable despite betraying his liege and murdering thousands of Northern men, kin to the many houses surrounding Winterfell. 6) Why is Miranda even a character? She served absolutely NO purpose...She instigates Sansa a couple times which was pointless and then Theon just tosses her to her death. Why did Miranda even matter there? It could've been anyone, even a Bolton guard come to capture Sansa and it would have the same effect. 7) Cersei's Walk was quite good. Well done on that account at least. 8) Mereen was...Eh. Not terrible. Varys coming out of nowhere felt like the cherry on top of the lazy writing cake Benioff and Weiss made. Anyone who recognizes me from this board knows I typically defend most of the show's decisions and generally enjoy watching it. I am done defending it. They really fucked up this season apart from EP7 and 8. I will continue to watch it but I no longer take it seriously. In fact I'll be watching it to laugh at how far they've fallen with regards to their writing, decision making, and execution of virtually everything. These guys dump all their time and money into one episode a year and then let the other 9 be huge disappointments. I have no factual basis for this claim, but I get a strong feeling that they're done with the show. It's exhausted them and they're mailing it in at this point. They wanted to get to the RW (As Benioff stated multiple times) and now they're just seeing it through until its over. They want to move onto other things and don't have the energy and passion to continue making the show worthwhile - perhaps they underestimated how difficult and consuming it would be to pull this off. You can feel it in the writing, the cuts they make, the merger of characters. They no longer want a challenge and are just making it as easy as they can for themselves each year. The show is an opportunity to make big controversial scenes rather than continue a terrific story. It has become more and more apparent that if they're not borrowing directly for GRRM than they no longer have what it takes to write good scenes. This show is now being entirely carried by the actors and the basis of the story GRRM set. Everything Benioff and Weiss do independently now is a failure, despite Hardhome which is an example of them actually trying to make something worthwhile. It's not a failure in the sense that the show is still hugely popular and people keep tuning in - it's a failure in the sense that they have such a strong foundation to work with and yet choose to dismantle it for no reason other than they don't want to bother themselves with difficult details anymore. Sorry for the rambling post. It just sucks after years of trying to defend these guys to see them really just drop the ball and take the easy ways out.
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    [Poll] How would you rate episode 509?

    After a rewatch I changed from 6 to 7. I still thought the Ramsay invasion was really lazy and the dialogue between Dany/Daario/Hizdahr/Tyrion was silly (only Hizdahr was making any sense yet the other three shitting on him for no reason while Daario basically sticks a knife up to his neck and no one cares - in fact Dany is turned on). I felt better about the Braavos scene as well as Daznak's Pit on rewatch.
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