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    [Book Spoilers] EP302 Discussion

    Yeah dude I 100% agree with this. You said it better than I could.
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    [Book Spoilers] EP302 Discussion

    It shows that Catelyn is a very conflicted character. Obviously, her strongest feelings stem from the thoughts of her children and Jon. It adds to her character in the fact that she is blaming herself for the destruction of her family based off of hate for Jon, when everyone else in the North treated him like a legitimate Stark child. In the books, she 100% hates Jon and wants nothing to do with him. In the show, it's more like she's 80& hateful of him. The conclusion is the same though; she was never able to accept Jon as a son of Eddard Stark and hates him regardless. In the show she just shows a tad bit more sympathy towards him but the hate is still clearly there.
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    [Book Spoilers] EP302 Discussion

    Why is everyone ragging on the whole Catelyn speech about Jon? Most of you are feeling it's a big deviation from her feelings towards Jon in the books, but it's really not. She admitted she hated Jon in the beginning of his birth. She wished for him to die but then realized that's a little too messed up. She then retracted her wish of death, and Jon lived. She said she WANTED/WAS CONSIDERING to push Ned to legitimize him, but then changed her mind because she still clearly hates him. Also, this kind of works to demonstrate how hating Jon (who is just as much a Stark as his siblings IMO) for no apparent reason came back to cause her family harm. I saw nothing wrong with scene.