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  1. As Azor Ahai his daughter is Nissa Nissa. But there's no flaming sword that I've seen in the episode 10 preview. So more MelisandreSpin. In other words, Mel wanted a burning, and the only way to get one was to remind Stannis that R'hllor needs kingsblood.
  2. In the books? According to this link, http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Oberyn_Martell, Oberyn and Ellaria have 4 daughters. Elia, Obella, Dorea, and Loreza.
  3. No, you (and others) had difficulty taking a side. You (and others) felt guilty. I didn't care who won or lost, as I disliked both sides equally, and did not feel guilty about the outcome. Hell, that was when I began to like the Hound as he said 'eff this crap'. I ended up taking his side in the matter.
  4. :lol: Yep, it's like eating ice cream or drinking slurpees when walking around in a snowstorm....when you're already losing an incredible amount of body heat! In fact, 3 out of the 4 men charged with cannibalism are burned in Dance, offered up as sacrifices to R'hllor to break the weather, and then there's the tWoW chapter to ponder over. I realise in the books the situation they are written to be in is much more dire, because chapter after chapter is dedicated to their suffering, yet there are also hints that the further away from Mel he is, the more reasonable/humane he becomes; which does make me question the showrunners/writers decision to have him take Mel, Selyse, and Shireen along for the march on Winterfell. He knew winter had arrived, why make his family suffer through it? I have never been a Stannis supporter, and the only reason I re-read the chapters involving him was because of his dialogue with either Davos or Jon. There were some amusing moments that were refreshing in the midst of all the bleakness. The overall bleakness is what stopped me from caring who lives and who dies in the books - exceptions being the remaining direwolves, a couple of Free Folk, and Edd. The only reason I read Feast and Dance was for completion, nothing more. The show, on the other hand, has a cast of actors who have wormed their way into my heart despite the fact that I know they're all going to die, and the showrunners have promised to complete the story by 2017. :shrug: To each their own.
  5. Ah, I understand. I'm from the 60s and 70s comic book boom (and a rare girl nerd from that era). I can't remember how many times I wanted to rage when I was convinced to go see a movie that destroyed my fave comic book heroes. Same with tv shows about comic book characters. But I don't go to the DC or Marvel et al forums to discuss the problems, because I'm way too old (mid 50s now) for anyone to take me seriously. Hell, I'm geeked about Jurassic World, and I already know it will suck big time. It is about having fun in the end, I guess.
  6. The fact that I am the only one who knows about what cold weather can do to a person on this board is mystifying, sure, but I do not watch Dark Fantasy shows/movies for the writing, especially GrimDark Fantasy. At this moment the ASoIaF books are sitting on my coffee table right in front of me. The reason I'm scrolling through the site and not reading them? They don't entertain me as much as this site does. I watch the show for the acting and the special effects. Stuff that does entertain me. You've made it quite clear that the show doesn't entertain you. What reason do you have for watching the show (that is getting everything wrong) if the books are available to give you everything you want in a story? I give zero f***s for the showrunners, and I give zero f***s for Mr. Martin. I just happen to love many of the actors, and started watching the show because I'm a fan of their various works (the actors that is). Just curious, not being snarky.
  7. Storm's End had water, shelter and mild temperatures. Some not so fun facts about winter survival: You can live 3 minutes without air, though we don't recommend trying. In a harsh environment — it's snowing, say — you have 3 hours to survive without shelter. After 3 days, you need water or you'll perish. You can make it 3 weeks without food, though we promise you that won't be fun. The link is here: http://www.businessinsider.com/how-many-days-can-you-survive-without-water-2014-5 The key is hydration. You need to start a fire to melt the snow/ice and drink about 8 cups a day to be fully hydrated, especially when trudging through snow. Being that Stannis' men had no experience travelling in northern Westeros winter conditions, many were most likely already suffering from mild hypothermia; meaning they were already lethargic and unable to think clearly (i.e., defend themselves).
  8. No, but mild hypothermia does make you lethargic and easily confused. In all honesty, I found Dorne to be a sign that the author was still working on how to bring the Ice and Fire elements together (as the 5 year gap is nowhere to be seen); rather, he chose to 'fill in' the geography and history of Westeros. I have little interest in it. As it seems I'm the only person on this board who has actually lived in areas where the winters are extremely cold (minus 35 C being the norm along with windchill factors), I can tell anyone who lives in the south (as I have done for years) that it is much easier to survive in a mild climate as long as you have a readily available source of water. Frostbite, hypothermia, starvation, lack of dry clothing/tents/blankets will all kill within hours or a couple of days without medical intervention. Ramsay's pack are well-rested, well-fed, hydrated, and are resistant to the weather in that they are prepared for it and have lived in it all their lives. No one (except my husband) understands why I cannot go outside in the summer where we currently live. After a few minutes in the sun my skin becomes sunburned and I become dizzy and nauseous. I'm not genetically built for hot climes. Put me in a freezer during our summers, and I'm fully functional. That's just from being born in the Arctic from peoples who have lived in the Arctic for thousands of years. The Westerosi northerners are no different, whereas Stannis and his followers are used to a much milder environment.
  9. I think it is under Television Drama on Reddit, I'd have to double check to make sure. It definitely won Emmy awards for Outstanding Drama Series and Peter Dinklage won for Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Drama Series.
  10. :lol: I appreciate you including your 'further further' thoughts, as I do agree with them to a degree. I don't remember if the Nissa Nissa subject has been brought up in previous seasons (I thought Salador Saan mentioned Azor Ahai to Davos), but it would have given the entire storyline more relevance if it had been included. And your thoughts on Shireen being a willing sacrifice are spot-on. My thoughts when watching were: 1. Stannis told Mel to eff off when Jon was at Hardhome. However long it took for Jon et al to reach Castle Black is how long Stannis' gang had been freezing in the northern winter. They are already running low on supplies, men are deserting, and they cannot linger in the midst of winter. I was born in Arctic Canada, and had several frostbite scars to prove it when I was younger. The thing Arctic folk know is that you do not travel in winter. You hole up somewhere with your provisions and wait it out, even if it means having to eat your huskies to keep you alive 'til spring. Two reasons you can't travel: your body is using up too much energy so you have to eat more of your food stash; sweating when it is freezing outside ends up lowering your body heat which leads to hypothermia - which leads to death. The men with Stannis are southern (as is Stannis). It's one thing to hold off a siege in a southern climate within a castle (yes, there's no food, but there is plenty of water) and another to stay alive in the midst of a winter storm for weeks on end using up all your supplies just to stay warm. In no way am I excusing Stannis (and my finger is pointed straight at Mel), but to those who say there was no urgency in Stannis' predicament, I think you have to look more closely at the timeline, and the shots of the men in his camp. True story: some Europeans went up to the town I was born in a few years back. The one that stood out for me (I watched a documentary on this just last year) was a southern European who declared he didn't need the toque and scarf offered to him by the more experienced crew. He was there for less than a week before he had to leave due to what was considered by the crew to be a medical emergency: debilitating (severe) frostbite. You cannot fight extremely cold weather. Something to think about. eta: hell, I've been rooting for the white walkers since season one and book one. I'm happy to see I'm not alone anymore.
  11. I don't recall bookShireen being fleshed out as a character. Most of her scenes (in my recollection) have her being Patchface's sidekick. ShowShireen stole my heart in a way that bookShireen never did. And because I found myself adoring every scene she was in, I knew she was going to be a sacrificial lamb of sorts. I think her story was told well enough. And the repercussions to follow will be fascinating to witness. I'll be sad if Shireen is burned in Winds of Winter, but nowhere as heartbroken as I'll be if Ghost is sacrificed...something I've been preparing myself for for 5 years. In other words, I would cry for Ghost much like I cried for showShireen; bookShireen not so much.
  12. Aww. Now I going to be scouring that damned letter for clues. :(
  13. Watchers on The Wall: http://watchersonthewall.com/ NeoGAF: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/index.php Just click onto Off Topic Discussions. You'll find 2 threads for GoT close to the top this time of year. One is for non book readers, the other is for book readers. Flea Bottom Forum: http://www.fleabottom.net/ A very friendly easy-going site with a nifty chat on bottom half of page. I don't get there as much as I'd like to, as I am completely addicted to drama, and there's very little of that at Flea Bottom. :lol:
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