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    Heresy 223 and where we go from here

    Sorry ? The Purple Wedding, Tyrion VIII, is Chapter 60 of ASOS, and there are 20 chapters and the epilogue after it.
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    Heresy 223 and where we go from here

    Tyrion III is Chapter 21, and Jon VII Chapter 52, for a total of 72 chapters, so Jon VII is past two-thirds of the book. And by the way, the Purple Wedding happened on January the first 300 AC, that's the only date we know for sure, so Feast & Dance must begin later than January 300, Tyrion has spent some time in the dungeons and on trial.
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    Heresy 223 and where we go from here

    My possible explanation this isn't an inconsistency : Jeor Mormont tells us "This summer has lasted nine years" in AGOT, Tyrion III Jon tells us "This summer had lasted ten years" in AGOT, Jon VII Cressen tells us this summer lasted "Ten years, two turns, and sixteen days" in ACOK, Prologue as it just finished. It was still summer during AGOT, so maybe it was closer to nine years than to ten years during Tyrion III, and the opposite during Jon VII, some months later ?
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    Heresy 223 and where we go from here

    This quote supports this SSM :
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    Heresy 223 and where we go from here

    Well the text is not clear on that. Here is the exact quote from Game : Clash's Prologue could suggest Selyse has changed her faith recently : But there's also this quote from Littlefinger : Here Selyse's turn of faith doesn't seem to be so new.
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    Rant & Rave without Repercussion: Burn It All Edition

    One rant I haven't seen yet : Jon telling Varys the northern army has just passed the Trident and will reach King's Landing in two days. It's official : showWesteros isn't the size of South America, it seems to be the size of er... France, maybe ?
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    What was your personal GoT breaking point?

    For me it was the season 4 finale, when Jaime doesn't tell Tyrion about Tysha, though the Ds had Tysha's story told in season 2. It ruins both characters. Tyrion misses the best motivation to kill Tywin and help Daenerys, and Jaime is thrown from the perfect path to redemption GRRM had built for him and the show had followed to this moment.
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    Small Questions v. 10105

    AGOT 23, Arya III : "It's for his sake I'm come. Rode hard, I did, near killed my horse the way I drove her, but I left the others well behind." "The others?" Yoren spat. "Sellswords and freeriders and like trash. That inn was full o' them, and I saw them take the scent. The scent of blood or the scent of gold, they smell the same in the end. Not all o' them made for King's Landing, either. Some went galloping for Casterly Rock, and the Rock lies closer. Lord Tywin will have gotten the word by now, you can count on it." Seems like Yoren is the first to bring the news of Catelyn capturing Tyrion in King's Landing. However, earlier in the same chapter, Varys tells Illyrio this : And now his wife has abducted Tyrion Lannister, thanks to Littlefinger's meddling. I don't see Varys' little birds using a raven to give him the news, too dangerous, so how could they have done it quickier than Yoren ?
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    Small Questions v. 10105

    At the end of Catelyn II, Ned tells Luwin he will talk to Benjen about Jon joining the Night's Watch
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    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    Worked for me too
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    References and Homages

    Big fan of the band too, but according to this post, it's a coincidence
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    Errors in the WOIAF

    I think you're right with the Vale map. It also has the river flowing by Heart's Home (or one of the vassal stream) taking source in the Riverlands, when on the other maps the source is in the Vale.
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    Errors in the WOIAF

    I've just found an inconsistency on the maps of the kingdoms concerning the Kingsroad, south of the Neck. On the Riverlands and North maps, exiting the Neck, the Kingsroad crosses briefly the Vale before it enters the Riverlands. But on the Vale map, the Kingsroad no longer crosses the Vale, going directly from the Neck to the Riverlands west of the Vale. So which map is correct ?
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    World of Ice and Fire App Update

    Well, we read it differently. To me, "scarcely" is rather a precision than a round-up, showing the duel happened soon after his nameday.
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    World of Ice and Fire App Update

    No, there's no way to know for sure which one is correct. But why does the use of "scarcely" makes you think this memory is less trustworthy ? I read it as Cat remembering Petyr being fifteen for a short time when the betrothal was announced, she may remember celebrating the nameday. If Sansa being hopeless at sums comes from her mother, than the memory should be more trustful than the counting :cool4:
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    World of Ice and Fire App Update

    You seem to be right, I don't see any counting mistake. But shouldn't Cat's mistake rather be in 298 ? By the time of the duel, she lived with Petyr, she remembers he was scarcely fifteen. In 298, she hasn't seen him since the duel, it seems more likely she didn't make the math there and estimated his age at a little less of thirty rather then a little more.
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    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    Has it ever been considered to use the paragraph number ? They're not numbered, but you can always count them by hand, and above all it's independent of the editions. For example :
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    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    There's also this quote from Game 21 : There's a mistake here, because we know from Mance's story of his first meeting with Jon when he was a boy in Winterfell that Qorgyle was still Lord Commander then, so Jeor couldn't be Lord Commander during the Rebellion. But if Jeor meant "since I have joined the Night's Watch", then he had joined before the Rebellion.
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    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    Game, Eddard I
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    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    It's more than heavily implied, and the appearance of "Pate" in Feast's last chapter confirms it. I agree there can be de doubts for some characters, but the real Pate is clearly dead.
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    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    It's mentioned several times. I can quote the occurences in the three first books : Game 23, Jorah to Dany : "The common people pray for rain, healthy children, and a summer that never ends," Ser Jorah told her. "It is no matter to them if the high lords play their game of thrones, so long as they are left in peace." He gave a shrug. "They never are." Game 45, Cersei to Ned (and Ned remembers it twice) : "You should have taken the realm for yourself. It was there for the taking. Jaime told me how you found him on the Iron Throne the day King's Landing fell, and made him yield it up. That was your moment. All you needed to do was climb those steps, and sit. Such a sad mistake." "I have made more mistakes than you can possibly imagine," Ned said, "but that was not one of them." "Oh, but it was, my lord," Cersei insisted. "When you play the game of thrones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground." Game 58, Varys to Ned : "The High Septon once told me that as we sin, so do we suffer. If that's true, Lord Eddard, tell me... why is it always the innocents who suffer most, when you high lords play your game of thrones? Ponder it, if you would, while you wait upon the queen." Game 71, Stevron Frey to the northern lords : "My lord father would urge caution," aged Ser Stevron said, with the weaselly smile of a Frey. "Wait, let these two kings play their game of thrones. When they are done fighting, we can bend our knees to the victor, or oppose him, as we choose. With Renly arming, likely Lord Tywin would welcome a truce… and the safe return of his son. Noble lords, allow me to go to him at Harrenhal and arrange good terms and ransoms…" Nothing in Clash Storm 24, the Liddle to Bran : "The Bastard's boys, aye. He was dead, but now he's not. And paying good silver for wolfskins, a man hears, and maybe gold for word of certain other walking dead." He looked at Bran when he said that, and at Summer stretched out beside him. "As to that Wall," the man went on, "it's not a place that I'd be going. The Old Bear took the Watch into the haunted woods, and all that come back was his ravens, with hardly a message between them. Dark wings, dark words, me mother used to say, but when the birds fly silent, seems to me that's even darker." He poked at the fire with his stick. "It was different when there was a Stark in Winterfell. But the old wolf's dead and young one's gone south to play the game of thrones, and all that's left us is the ghosts." Storm 61, Littlefinger to Sansa : "Why should I wish [Joffrey] dead?" Littlefinger shrugged. "I had no motive. Besides, I am a thousand leagues away in the Vale. Always keep your foes confused. If they are never certain who you are or what you want, they cannot know what you are like to do next. Sometimes the best way to baffle them is to make moves that have no purpose, or even seem to work against you. Remember that, Sansa, when you come to play the game." "What... what game?" "The only game. The game of thrones."
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    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    The expression is mentioned several times in the books, so yes, I find the page relevant.
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    World of Ice and Fire App Update

    I'm not so sure for Tywin. See this quote, in aSoS Chapter 19, when word of Robb's marriage has reached King's Landing and Tyrion is told. Tywin just told him he is to marry Sansa, and for Sansa's claim for Winterfell to work, Robb must be get ridden of.
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    [Book Spoilers] EP408 Discussion

    But it is natural : Tyrion is likely to be soon beheaded, why wouldn't he ponder about mortality and the sense of life ? Tyrion could be angry now, wishing to see all his accusers dead. But no, he puts things into perspective and blame it on absurdity. And he's honest with Jaime : show!Jaime needs this scene to justify his telling the truth about Tysha in the season finale, that will trigger Tyrion's change of mind. Imagine how the Unsullied will react, with Tyrion going in 2 episodes from remembering how he tried to prevent Orson from crashing beetles to killing in cold-blood Shae and Tywin !
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    [Book Spoilers] EP403 Discussion

    Very well spoken, I completely agree with you. Add to that Cersei begging him to kill Tyrion and him realizing how hateful she is, that's what makes him finally break.
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