NickyM

Dany. The major disappointment I have was her not throwing one of those gold bars back and demanding that the slaves stay and his soilders carry him back. Made me sad.

Ok, i'm torn and here's why. We have Ygritte and Jon and I finally nailed what ticks me off about her. She uses sex to keep Jon in his place. Every time she's on screen I see Jaime and Cersi. Very annoying and hope she dies horribly. Then we have Talisa and Rob. I truly hope she's a spy becuase if this is true love and the Red Wedding is True Loves reward well that just sucks. As a sadistic tourture said "If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention." Yet I do want some happy ending even if it's just a short lived happy ending, must be the romatic in me. Poor little Arya, glad the Hound is back Jaime/Brienne - moved to the j/b Thread bittersweet. Theon, I have to say it's dark really dark and for Bran and party I have nothing. I did like the face off between Tywin and Joff if that's what we can call it. Joff basically got owned. loved the Margey - Yes she did you sweet girl - I do almost wish margy would have told sansa that Loras is well not that into her, but why burn the bridge. Felt bad for Tyrion, and the way the conversation played out, part of me is shocked, was Shay thinking that Tryion would never marry. Jaime's in the kingsguard and not allowed. I know Tyrion is the only male of Tywin line, and I can't see that Tywin would never make him marry someone of his choosing eventually. I was hoping the option of running would be talked about more, because I know the reason he won't is becuase Sansa might just be killed or married to someone that is actually cruel. I'm sure Jaime never would have crossed their minds with both hands, but now that he has one, alas they may be married before jaime gets back poor girl.

6 and it only got that because of Jaime and Brienne, and the sale of Gendry.

I can't really remember the time line but I thought Cersei went to the profet after Tyrion was born and she has been being a Bitch to him ever since he was born. Which came first the prophey or her trying to twist of Tyrion's manhood at 9. I thought the prophey was after that, but I can never see a valid time line.

I know what you mean. I'm a firm believer that everyone is going to continually screw up, it's what you do after the fact that makes you an asshole. Jaime took a vow of celibiey and broke to bang someone elses wife. All of that makes him an asshole. Not the fact she was his sister, not the fact Robert cheated continually on her. My true complaint about the whole Jaime not defending his actions were, despite Ned thinking whatever he thought, Jaime should have stated, "I had to stop him from using the Wildfire to destory the city." Whether he was believed or not would have been on everyone else, but not defending yourself or even explaining seems the oppisite of prideful, I'm not sure why but to me it does.

While I agree you can't choose who you love, you can choose how to act on it. It's what separates us from animals. It was his choice to sleep with his sister, and to do all the horrible things he did, it was also his choice to slay the king and not defend his actions. So here's my question, Can everything Jaime did that was wrong be tied back to that moment that Ned Stark branded him an Oathbreaker and a traitor? Is it all because of that moment that Jaime chose to live up to the expectations of being the Oathbreaker. Was Cersi a virgin when she wedded Robert? I do have to say that if you are a queen it is your obligation to have heirs and bastards are not true heirs. She wasn't choosing to have incestual heirs because Robert was oh so mean to her. She was being plotting and manipultive from the get go, and those were her choices.

Question: Haven't really read the books. The only thing that bugged me about Jaime's story was, why was Stark's opinion the only one that mattered? Could he not have defened his actions to any other house, council member or anything? I haven't read the books so I'm not sure but was this the first moment the truth of why he did it revealed. Viewer's and readers knew DragonFire exsisted because of Blackwater. I also realize they -the people of King'sLanding- may wanted have keep it secret for security purposes, but really did no one really talk about it or investigate it. I mean I know many people think Stark was judgemental and honorable to the point of loosing his head over it, but it's hard to fathom that Ned would have continued to fault Jaime if he knew it was to save the people of King's Landing and had nothing to do with politics.

Considering the incest that Cersi has been involved with no. Tywin thinking more of the efficency over intermingling of the family trees, I don't see that as a real issue. I do think it's funny that the mother of the king will be the sister in law (by marriage) to the king. Also I think getting Cersi to a place that has just as much manipulation as she does is a good idea. if it wasn't for the fact that the Tryells are cunning and can see through Cersi's crap, Tywin might have to think twice before having her wed the heir to the 2nd most powerful family. He's sending his viper daughter to go live with vipers. I love the simplicity of that.