The Taxman

Well aren't you quite the infidel.

Oberyn and Pycelle looks more suspicious in that photo. Olenna just looks worried... Loras just looks unimportant.

We all know this fool. Now write an essay on how the poisoning went down. When did she slip the crystal? Who slipped the crystal?

Because there isn't a blue rose. If anything, it's a face. Anyone who says they see a blue rose is just grasping for straws.

You're quoting me out of context here, little cub. I was pointing out exactly that, that it couldn't have been Olenna "physically" at that moment in time.

When Joffrey cut the pie, Olenna's ass was all the way at another table. Nowhere near the chalice.

I see where you're coming from. When Joffrey pours the wine over Tyrion's head, Tyrion does taste it and it does not kill him so we can rule out the poison taking effect at any moment prior. But Olenna definitely slipped the crystal into the chalice as she walks by Joffrey's cup because we can hear a distinct chime when we see her arm does the dropping motion. If the poison was in its crystallization state, it would readily dissolve in any solvent so how the hell do you explain that? Could Marg have taken the crystal out of the chalice? No. I did not see it and it just isn't plausible. My take is GRRM didn't completely understand the science behind the method so there will be several loopholes. Even when LF was explaining to Sansa in the books I was still confused as to how it actually went down.

What? That's where the poison came from. The poison is ingrained within the chalice itself after Olenna dropped it in . Sublimation friend.

I too thought that it was Jack Gleeson in the credits.

Why would that be unlikely? You ever been slowly poisoned before from a cup of wine before? Then don't buy it. But that's how it went down.

The big misinterpretation from both unsullied and bookreaders are that they believed this poison is a rapid acting poison and that the poison was in the wine itself. The poison is immersed into the golden chalice itself. Joffrey was already poisoned during the Dwarf jousting spectacle. After he sips his drink during the spectacle, you could already see how disoriented he was when he got up off his seat to congratulate the performers (people probably thought he was drunk, but no he was not, he was really disoriented).

After Olenna takes the stone, as she is walking pass Joffrey's cup you head a distinct "Cling" sound as if something solid touched a chalice if your volume is high enough. Olenna took the stone and slipped it in the cup. I just don't know how the stone dissolved in the cup. Marg didn't do anything but she definitely knew the plan.

I'm highly disappointed they did not mention that Oberyn had a fetish in the arts of poisoning that would have even gave Melisandre a run for her money. But maybe they will do it next episode? "Why the dwarf? What about the Red Viper? Who in Westeros would have knowledge of such a deadly poison but him?"

The Oathkeeper is still there in the scene, just off to the side from where you think Jaime dropped it.

You can see it as the camera zooms you can she as she walks by Joffrey you hear a very distinct clink sound hitting the chalice. Can't be way too damn obvious now.

I actually just remembered that Penny is a necessity since she needs to be there with Tyrion in book 5 getting Lion chopped. I think the reason they didn't reveal the face of the KitN is because they haven't found a suitable female dwarf for Tyrion to kiss yet.

I seriously thought they were going to throw in a glimpse of Lyanna in Bran's vision for a second there.

Semantics. We both agree that Shae will end in up Tywin's chamber and be killed off. You're RIGHT.

He could easily ask "Did you fuck Shae?" And boom.

Btw, did anyone notice Penny was not part of the dwarf jousting? I saw all men and no women.

The whole Brienne/Cersei scene was more to actually depict how ridiculous and mad Cersei has gotten in her head. Notice after that scene she proceeds to lambast Pycelle. Just more character development for Cersei than anything to do with Brienne/Jaime really.

That Shae scene you're referring to happened in Episode 1. I highly doubt they would throw that Shae/Tywin chamber scene in the trailer though. That's way too much info.

And lo and be hold, all of the positives you listed of Stannis has yet to appear in the show so what's the current complaint? He is misguided in the same way the Starks are misguided: He actually still believes in honor and duty. It seems the people nitpicking about Stannis is how the show is portraying him as some un-charismatic (he is) dark character (he is). Book fans of his also seem to forgo that he is the biggest kinslayer in all of Westeros.

Perhaps the former poster should re-watch the episode. Tywin explicitly stated he wanted Shae to be in the tower of the hand after the wedding. Tyrion will kill Shae. Shae will die. It's that simple. Tysha is pretty irrelevant, even in the books imo, we all know she will never appear again in the books.

Pretty sure it was revealed already. Nonetheless, it's all irrelevant at this point. If you think Joffrey needed anymore reasons for people to find his death satisfying then you clearly haven't been paying attention.