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  1. Rhaenys_Targaryen

    Small Questions v. 10106

    A place for small questions that you feel don't need a thread of their own... Useful Links: Trying to find a quote, but don't have ebooks? Try A Search of Ice and Fire. Looking for that one So Spake Martin (SSM)? Try this SSM search engine For an overview of GRRM's ASOIAF-related Not a Blog entries, look at The Complete Notablog ASOIAF Resource For a quick overview of all that we know about The Winds of Winter, look at The Complete Winds of Winter Resource A list of all Small Questions threads of the past: Don't feel like reading through all those previous threads to find the answer to your question? Try this feature: Most Frequently asked Small Questions On The Winds of Winter: When will "The Winds of Winter" be published? What's the latest news? Nobody knows. The best bet is to follow GRRM's blog. GRRM himself has expressed in December, 2014: Look, I've said before, and I will say again, I don't play games with news about the books. I know how many people are waiting, how long they have been waiting, how anxious they are. I am still working on WINDS. When it's done, I will announce it here [on GRRM's site]. There won't be any clues to decipher, any codes or hidden meanings, the announcement will be straightforward and to the point. I won't time it to coincide with Xmas or Valentine's Day or Lincoln's Birthday, the book will not rise from the dead with Jesus on Easter Sunday. When it is done, I will say that's it is done, on whatever day I happen to finish.I don't know how I can make it any clearer. On January 2nd, 2016, GRRM stated the following on his blog: THE WINDS OF WINTER is not finished. Believe me, it gave me no pleasure to type those words. You're disappointed, and you're not alone. My editors and publishers are disappointed, HBO is disappointed, my agents and foreign publishers and translators are disappointed... but no one could possibly be more disappointed than me. For months now I have wanted nothing so much as to be able to say, "I have completed and delivered THE WINDS OF WINTER" on or before the last day of 2015. But the book's not done. Nor is it likely to be finished tomorrow, or next week. Yes, there's a lot written. Hundreds of pages. Dozens of chapters. (Those 'no pages done' reports were insane, the usual garbage internet journalism that I have learned to despise). But there's also a lot still left to write. I am months away still... and that's if the writing goes well. (Sometimes it does. Sometimes it doesn't.) Chapters still to write, of course... but also rewriting. I always do a lot of rewriting, sometimes just polishing, sometimes pretty major restructures. The blog entry further details the writing process of 2015, and states that it is almost certain that the book won't be released before the sixth season of GOT airs, mid-April. What's the material that has already been published or revealed from The Winds of Winter? Spoiler tagged for obvious reasons On the tales of Dunk & Egg, and links to the main series: How many Dunk & Egg stories have been published? Where are they published in? Three Dunk and Egg stories are published at the moment. For now, they are 1. The Hedge Knight A short story to be found either in "Legends, edited by Robert Silverberg" or in "Dreamsongs II by George R.R. Martin". There is also a rendition as a graphic novel by the same name: "The Hedge Knight". 2. The Sworn Sword A short story to be found either in "Legends II - Dragon, Sword and King, edited by Robert Silverberg" or in the original hard- and softcover editions of "Legends II" from 2003 & 2004. There is also a rendition as a graphic novel by the same name: "The Sworn Sword". 3. The Mystery Knight A short story to be found either in "Warriors, edited by George R.R. Martin and Gardner Dozois" or in the paperback "Warriors 1, edited by George R.R. Martin and Gardner Dozois". No graphic novel... yet. Two more Dunk & Egg stories yet to be written have already been described. They are known as "The She-wolves of Winterfell" and "The Village Hero". Both of these are working titles, though, not final titles. Four additional titles have been mentioned by Martin: "The Sellsword", "The Champion", "The Kingsguard", and "The Lord Commander". Will the Dunk & Egg tales be published in one book? The first three tales of Dunk and Egg will be published in one book, titled "A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms", to be released in english on 6-10-2015. In some other languages, however, it has already been published. "A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms" will contain pages filled with artwork, which the other versions don't have. Was Dunk ever knighted by Ser Arlan? In spoiler tags: Are there any descendants of Dunk alive in the series today? Yes. GRRM has expressed that we'd meet one of Dunk's descendants. Brienne of Tarth finds the shield Dunk owns in The Hedge Knight. Hodor is often heavily suspected to be a descendant of Dunk's due to his enormous size, and the fact that people believe the young girl and the "knight as tall as Hodor" in the vision Bran sees in A Dance with Dragons are Old Nan (in her youth) and Dunk, and that the event is to take place during The She-Wolves of Winterfell. Small Paul (from the Night's Watch) has also been suggested to be a descendant of Dunks, due to his size and the mention of "thick as a castle wall", which is also used to describe Dunk. On the main series: When was Robert Baratheon declared King? Around the time of the Battle of the Trident. Why were Ned and Robert at the Eyrie when mad king Aerys II sent to Jon Arryn for their heads? It is true Ned and Robert were past their squiring and fostering age, when they visited Jon Arryn together at the Eyrie at that certain time. There is clarification on this both in TWoIaF and an older SSM telling that they liked to spend some of their time there together. What is the right of the first night? The right of the first night, better known as droit du seigneur (which only looks French, although it is English usage, the French use different terminology) or jus primae noctis is a medieval custom that has been abolished in Westeros (by Jaeherys I & Septon Barth) as in the real world (apart from a few small islands in the English channel). It allows the lord to be the first to consummate any marriage before the husband, thus potentially to sire numerous bastard children. In the real world, husbands would pay a fee to their lord for not making use of this right. What is "guest right" and why is it so important? The guest right is a sacred law of hospitality. When a guest, no matter the station of birth, eats the food and drinks the drink beneath the host's roof, the guest right is invoked. Bread and salt are the traditional provisions. When invoked, neither the guest is allowed to do harm to his host, nor is the host allowed to do harm to his guest for the length of the guest's stay. For either to do so would be to break a sacred covenant that is believed to invoke the wrath of the Gods both old and new. Both the teachings of the old gods and the Faith of the Seven hold to this. Even robber lords and wreckers are bound by the ancient laws of hospitality. Guest gifts can be given when the guests depart, ending the guest right. House Manderly practises this tradition in A Dance with Dragons. Breaking the guest right is seen as a terrible thing. The example stated in the books concern the Rat Cook. A cook in the Night's Watch who killed the kings son, and cooked the son in a pie he served to the king, leading to the unknowingly eating his own son. The gods punished the Rat Cook, by turning him into a giant rat who could only feed by eating its own young. The gods did not punish the cook for feeding the king his own son, but for killing a man beneath his own roof. Does the Wall block warging? It appears so. Jon Snow isn't capable of connecting with Ghost anymore, when they have the Wall in between them, nor can Jon, warged in Ghost, feel Summer when Summer is north of the Wall, and Jon and Ghost south. Whether this is the same for each warg/skinchanger, or depends on the strength of the individual, is a matter of discussion. It does appear that Bran, warged into the weirwood net, can see south of the Wall, whilst being north of it. What's the kindness Jaime never did? Jaime is referring to Tysha, and how Tyrion believed that Jaime bought Tysha's services to make Tyrion into a man (making him lose his virginity). Jaime never paid Tysha, however, as Tysha wasn't a whore. In other words, a kindness that Jaime never did. In A Dance with Dragons, Septon Chayle is at the Wall. Wasn't he the septon at Winterfell? Didn't he die in A Clash of Kings? Indeed. This is an error., Septon Cellador is the Septon at Castle Black. Septon Chayle, as far as is known, is dead. If the gates in King's Landing were closed, how did Arya get to the harbor? You need to cross a gate... A well known issue. People have tried to find explanations for it, but most have not yet been satisfied. Here's the most recent given explanation. How come Cersei and Margaery need a Kingsguard Knight to defend them in their trials in A Dance with Dragons, while Gregor Clegane, not a Kingsguard Knight, was allowed to defend Cersei in Tyrion's trial in A Storm of Swords? Because in Tyrion's trial, it wasn't Cersei who stood accused.. Tyrion was accused, Cersei the accuser. Tyrion didn't necessarily need to use a Kingsguard knight in that trial because he isn't royalty. In Cersei's case in Dance (and in Margaery's case, should she opt for a trial by combat, should her first trial fail), Cersei is the Queen Regent, Margaery the Queen. They are royalty, and it is them who stand accued. They are not the accusers. Thus, they need a Kingsguard to defend them. If knights are custom of the followers of the Seven, why there are knights in the North (Old Gods) and in the Iron Islands (Drowned God)? There aren't many. So far we know of a single Ironborn knight. Knights from the North spring forth from a few sources: 1. White Harbor and the Manderlys The Manderys in White harbor brought the new gods and Southern customs along, so knighthood is more common there. 2. Houses near the Neck Houses who have business with the South may have a few knights, as customs mingle. 3. War returnees Some Northerners simply get knighted by Southern nobility during war time, it cannot be helped. Ser Jorah Mormont is an example. 4. Hedge Knights and Freeriders People living the life of a hedge knight or freeriders in service in the South might face the same treatment, when the do too many chivalrous deeds, although an example is missing here. Who can make a knight? Any knight can make a knight. As knighthood is a form of distinction, the higher in renown or social status the maker, the better for the image of the knight made. Kings can also knight people, but lords cannot (unless they have once been knighted themselves). So for example, King Robert Baratheon, knighted in his youth, can knight people (and has) because he is a knight himself, and because he is a king. King Baelor I, a king, but not a knight, could have knighted anyone he wanted to. Lord Eddard Stark, never knighted himself, can't knight anyone. Which Targaryens had deformed children? * King Maegor I Targaryen (multiple malformed children by multiple wives) * Daemon Targaryen (a malformed son by Lady Laena Velaryon) * Rhaenyra Targaryen (a malformed stillborn daughter, Visenya, by Prince Daemon, according to Mushroom) * Daenerys Targaryen (a malformed stillborn son, Rhaego, by Khal Drogo) How big do dragons grow? Dragons seem just to grow if they get enough food and space. How old are Dany's dragons as of the end of Dance? Born in early 299 AC, the dragons are currently around 1,5 years old. Who is Jon Snow's mother? Have a look into the first post of the current (fixed) R+L=J thread in the General ASoIaF forum. It links to collections of theories on Jon Snow's parentage. Who are the marcher lords? Marcher lords are powerful lords who guard region near border with Dorne, known as the Dornish Marches. They have large keeps and maintain large forces, to defend lands of the Reach and Stormlands in case of Dornish attack. Marcher lords: - in the Stormlands: House Selmy, House Dondarrion, House Swann, House Caron - in the Reach: House Tarly, possibly House Peake When Arya is serving at Harrenhal, she sees Roose Bolton cautionly turning the pages of a very ornate and fragile book, before throwing it to the fire. Do we know which book was that? No. Any other questions: Is The Ice Dragon part of the asoiaf universe? No, it is not. Continue
  2. Rhaenys_Targaryen

    Small Questions v. 10106

    Dayne and Whent appear so, Mooton and Lonmouth are favourite guesses in the fandom, but are not confirmed. Nothing is furthermore known at the moment.
  3. Rhaenys_Targaryen

    Small Questions v. 10106

    They will likely remain captive, are executed, or, in tines of war, offered to change their allegiance. Is there a specific passage you are thinking about?
  4. Rhaenys_Targaryen

    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    Even characters who appear in the canon can have information attached to them created only for the game. Without knowing what info is (semi-)canon, and what was created for the game specifically, we cannot enter the information on the wiki, IMO.
  5. Rhaenys_Targaryen

    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    I know that it used to state that. But if it is no longer there in the app, the statement should be removed from the wiki as well.
  6. Rhaenys_Targaryen

    Small Questions v. 10106

    @Ran, perhaps you can clarify this?
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    Wow, I never noticed that. Vol. 18

    Why can we cross it out? Being six early in 298 AC and being eight early in 300 AC leave the exact same possibilities. "Eight going on three" does not mean that he was eight years and three months old. It means that he is eight years old, but acts as if he is three years old. (https://linguaphiles.livejournal.com/4724430.html) The only things that quote tell us is that: 1) Robert was 8 in early 300 AC, and 2) that he does not act his age. It would be more consistent with Martin's usage of text elsewhere. For example, we know that the Sack of KL, in which Elia Martell died, took place near the end of 283 AC. In late 299 AC, that event is described as 16 years ago, in early 300 AC, as 17 years. Gods, I hope not. "Wars and weddings have kept us well occupied, Prince Oberyn. I fear no one has yet had the time to look into murders sixteen yearsstale, dreadful as they were. We shall, of course, just as soon as we may. Any help that Dorne might be able to provide to restore the king's peace would only hasten the beginning of my lord father's inquiry—" (ASOS Tyrion 5) ' He wanted justice for Elia, but he would not wait—" "He waited ten-and-seven years," the Lady Nym broke in. (AFFC The Captain of Guards) The Blackfyre Rebellion, which lasted almost a year and both began and ended in 196 AC, is both said to have started and ended sixteen years ago by characters in TMK. As the start and end of the event are nearly a year apart, these characters too look at the difference betweem the current year (212 AC) and the year of the event (196 AC). Sixteen years ago, a bastard son of King Aegon IV named Daemon Blackfyre had risen in revolt against his trueborn brother. "I remember now. Ser Arlan never liked to talk about the Redgrass Field, but once in his cups he told me how his sister's son had died." He could almost hear the old man's voice again, smell the wine upon his breath. "Roger of Pennytree, that was his name. His head was smashed in by a mace wielded by a lord with three castles on his shield." Lord Gormon Peake. The old man never knew his name. Or never wanted to. By that time Lord Peake and John the Fiddler and their party were no more than a plume of red dust in the distance. It was sixteen years ago. The Pretender died, and those who followed him were exiled or forgiven. Anyway, it has nought to do with me. If there is anything in the text that can demonstrate that he was born in 291 AC and the interpretation of five years ago is wrong, please let me know. But 'eight going on three' does not demonstrate anything regarding his age, except that he is eight years old.
  8. Rhaenys_Targaryen

    The Wiki-Timeline Project v2

    The first thread was archived, although the project itself continued. Given the new material that has been released, it seemed like a good idea to have a new thread for the project. So here we go! For all timeline calculations that can be made for the asoiaf wiki, this thread is meant to point out mistakes that you might have seen, or suggest additions. Although the project mostly contains calculations determining the year in which characters have been born or have died, events, where possible, are also included. At the last count, (on October 23, 2016) the project already included 557 characters in total, for who a total of 531 calculations have been made for a year of birth, and 70 calculations for the years of death, making it 601 calculations in total. Since then, however, more additions have been made, and following the release of Fire & Blood more additions will be made over the upcoming months. Once the majority has been done, I'll post a new count for those interested!
  9. Rhaenys_Targaryen

    The Wiki-Timeline Project v2

    I think so. I agree with 261 AC in any case. But keep in mind that it is not 50 that is a hard cut-off. For the sake of consistency, I would suggest adding this text that has been added so similar calculations thusfar: The Westerosi consider the age of forty-two to be "past [a woman's] childbearing years", and forty-four to be "well past her childbearing years",{{Ref|fab|The Year of the Three Brides - 49 AC}}{{Ref|fab|Birth, Death, and Betrayal Under King Jaehaerys I}}{{Ref|fab|The Long Reign - Jaehaerys and Alysanne: Policy, Progeny, and Pain}} although women of forty-four have been known to give birth to a child.{{Ref|fab|Birth, Death, and Betrayal Under King Jaehaerys I}}{{Ref|fab|The Long Reign - Jaehaerys and Alysanne: Policy, Progeny, and Pain}} In real-life, the end of a woman's fertile cycle (menopause) occurs at an age of 49-52 on average, giving ~52 as a maximum age for giving birth to a child. So, Donnella would have been born, based on her daughter's age, no earlier than ~244 AC.
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    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    Thanks!
  11. That was a mistake. It has been fixed by @Thomaerys Velaryon
  12. Rhaenys_Targaryen

    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    The wiki page on Quenton Corbray states that Corwyn Corbray was a second son. Where is this stated?
  13. Rhaenys_Targaryen

    Wow, I never noticed that. Vol. 18

    They are two different ships (one is a swan ship, the other a trading cog, with two completely different crews). Nor is the Selaesory Qhoran carrying cargo from the Cinnamon Wind. There are more ships at the sea that carry dragon peppers Nor would Aemon's corpse have remained on board of the Cinnamon Wind after it arrived at Oldtown.
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    Wow, I never noticed that. Vol. 18

    What makes you think he was born in 291 AC? Robert was 6 in 298 AC, placing his birth in either 292 AC (if he turned 6 in 298 AC) or 291 AC (if he would be turning 7 later than year). Robert was 8 in 300 AC, placing his birth in either 292 AC (if he turned 8 in 300 AC) or 291 AC (if he would be turning 9 later than year). And, he was less than a year old in 293 AC (when Catelyn had seen him last, five years prior to 298 AC). Being less than a year old in 293 AC would mean that he had either been born that year (293 AC), or would have turned 1 later that year, which would place his birth in 292 AC.. As 292 AC is the only overlapping year in all the possibilities, the conclusion is that that is the year of his birth. If there is anything I missed, I'd love to hear it! And if you think you've spotted mistakes in the calculations, please notify the editors in this thread, so they can be fixed. The ages of the Freys on the wiki have been calculated (like all other calculations) with a lot of precision, and with the idea in mind that no character would have been younger than 12 at the birth of their first child. For a lot of Freys, that leaves a range of possible years, sometimes spanning more than three decades. And of course, as with all else, a mistake can happen every now and then. As stated above, when you think you've spotted one, please point in out in the linked thread. Regarding Danwell, his last possible year of birth (261 AC) depends on his younger brother Merrett, who was born in 262 AC. Merrett and Danwell would have been at least one year apart in age, and thus Danwell was born no later than 261 AC. I'm not sure why you think that the range of years of birth given for Danwell make your theory impossible though? The squires had been less than 15 years old. If Danwell had taken part of the joust, he would not have been one of the squires. (A family member could have squired for him, though).
  15. Being mentioned by a character, being described in thought or memory, or being seen in a dream or a look into the past (Bran's in ADWD).
  16. Rhaenys_Targaryen

    Small Questions v. 10106

    His skull ay least was, along with his twin's, as Connington seems them outside of the commander's tent: The captain-general's tent was made of cloth-of-gold and surrounded by a ring of pikes topped with gilded skulls. One skull was larger than the rest, grotesquely malformed. Below it was a second, no larger than a child's fist. Maelys the Monstrous and his nameless brother. The other skulls had a sameness to them, though several had been cracked and splintered by the blows that had slain them, and one had filed, pointed teeth. "Which one is Myles?" Griff found himself asking. As Jon can easily identify Maelys's skull and mentions the one with the filed teeth separately, it doesn't seem that he was the one to have done so. Edit: We know only Bittersteel, Maelys, Myles Toyne, and Daemon Blackfyre as deceased commanders. The first three are not the one who had their teeth filed, so either it was Daemon, or one of the commanders who have not yet been named.
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    Targaryen-Baratheons - How fiery is the blood of the stag?

    The Targaryens are not the only kings Asha is the daughter of a king, while Mance himself was a king.
  18. Rhaenys_Targaryen

    Small Questions v. 10106

    "By right of birth and blood" refers IMO to Stannis's blood relation to Robert, and to the fact that he is trueborn, as opposed to Joffrey, who is not related to Robert, and who is bastard born. That the Baratheons had not yet claimed the throne at the time of Stannis's birth does not feature into this. The quote about Robert's better claim from AGOT is more telling, I think, even if GRRM had not yet decided how recent the Targaryen ancestor was. That it referred to Orys Baratheon, however, seems unlikely to me, as that is rumored Targaryen ancestry from 300 years ago.
  19. Rhaenys_Targaryen

    [Spoilers] Fire and Blood Errata

    Interesting. @Ran, am I correct in assuming that in these instances, we should follow the ebook version and consider the printed text to be in error?
  20. Rhaenys_Targaryen

    [Spoilers] Fire and Blood Errata

    @zionius, I saw you added to the wiki that F&B states that Maegor had just turned 11 when Visenya proposed a betrothal between Maegor and Rhaena, but my print states "just turned twelve". Do you have the ebook?
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    Planetos Timekeeping

    Weeks are mentioned in AGOT prologue Have you drawn any watches this past week, Will?"
  22. Tyrion was born in 273 AC, which means he turned 13 in 286 AC, and was 13 for some time in 287 AC as well. His marriage to Tysha could have occurred in either of those two years, as long as he had not yet turned fourteen in 287 AC. Joffrey is born early in 286 AC, but where in the year Tyrion's birthday is, is unknown. Regardless, plenty of opportunity for Jaime to have been at CR after Joff's birth.
  23. Rhaenys_Targaryen

    Small Questions v. 10106

    I've made an analysis on that years back which might be useful. It would depend more on the speed at which a student earns his links, and the minimum amount of links needed, than anything else. The fastest student we see is Yandel, who takes seven years from the moment he forges his first link, until the moment he is done. How long his first link took him is unknown, so a bit more time at least should be added to those seven years. Aemon took 9 or 10 years to complete his education. We've seen students earn three links in a year, and know that you require more than six links to become a maester.
  24. Rhaenys_Targaryen

    Most precise ASOIAF timeline v.3

    Continuing the topic once started by PrivateMajor, which had been closed for length, and the follow-up thread, which has been archived, the purpose of this thread is to discuss any potential errors or changes to the excel-timeline: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj_uNZmcJaTddG9BVU5tRnJJTE5KcE5JRkFha1ZfNUE#gid=8
  25. Rhaenys_Targaryen

    Small Questions v. 10106

    It is implied they lived at Casterly Rock: It was hard not to feel contemptuous of Emmon Frey. He had arrived at Casterly Rock in his fourteenth year to wed a lioness half his age. Tyrion used to say that Lord Tywin had given him a nervous belly for a wedding gift. Genna has played her part as well. Jaime remembered many a feast where Emmon sat poking at his food sullenly whilst his wife made ribald jests with whatever household knight had been seated to her left, their conversations punctuated by loud bursts of laughter. She gave Frey four sons, to be sure. At least she says they are his. No one in Casterly Rock had the courage to suggest otherwise, least of all Ser Emmon.
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