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    Small Questions v. 10106

    A place for small questions that you feel don't need a thread of their own... Useful Links: Trying to find a quote, but don't have ebooks? Try A Search of Ice and Fire. Looking for that one So Spake Martin (SSM)? Try this SSM search engine For an overview of GRRM's ASOIAF-related Not a Blog entries, look at The Complete Notablog ASOIAF Resource For a quick overview of all that we know about The Winds of Winter, look at The Complete Winds of Winter Resource A list of all Small Questions threads of the past: Don't feel like reading through all those previous threads to find the answer to your question? Try this feature: Most Frequently asked Small Questions On The Winds of Winter: When will "The Winds of Winter" be published? What's the latest news? Nobody knows. The best bet is to follow GRRM's blog. GRRM himself has expressed in December, 2014: Look, I've said before, and I will say again, I don't play games with news about the books. I know how many people are waiting, how long they have been waiting, how anxious they are. I am still working on WINDS. When it's done, I will announce it here [on GRRM's site]. There won't be any clues to decipher, any codes or hidden meanings, the announcement will be straightforward and to the point. I won't time it to coincide with Xmas or Valentine's Day or Lincoln's Birthday, the book will not rise from the dead with Jesus on Easter Sunday. When it is done, I will say that's it is done, on whatever day I happen to finish.I don't know how I can make it any clearer. On January 2nd, 2016, GRRM stated the following on his blog: THE WINDS OF WINTER is not finished. Believe me, it gave me no pleasure to type those words. You're disappointed, and you're not alone. My editors and publishers are disappointed, HBO is disappointed, my agents and foreign publishers and translators are disappointed... but no one could possibly be more disappointed than me. For months now I have wanted nothing so much as to be able to say, "I have completed and delivered THE WINDS OF WINTER" on or before the last day of 2015. But the book's not done. Nor is it likely to be finished tomorrow, or next week. Yes, there's a lot written. Hundreds of pages. Dozens of chapters. (Those 'no pages done' reports were insane, the usual garbage internet journalism that I have learned to despise). But there's also a lot still left to write. I am months away still... and that's if the writing goes well. (Sometimes it does. Sometimes it doesn't.) Chapters still to write, of course... but also rewriting. I always do a lot of rewriting, sometimes just polishing, sometimes pretty major restructures. The blog entry further details the writing process of 2015, and states that it is almost certain that the book won't be released before the sixth season of GOT airs, mid-April. What's the material that has already been published or revealed from The Winds of Winter? Spoiler tagged for obvious reasons On the tales of Dunk & Egg, and links to the main series: How many Dunk & Egg stories have been published? Where are they published in? Three Dunk and Egg stories are published at the moment. For now, they are 1. The Hedge Knight A short story to be found either in "Legends, edited by Robert Silverberg" or in "Dreamsongs II by George R.R. Martin". There is also a rendition as a graphic novel by the same name: "The Hedge Knight". 2. The Sworn Sword A short story to be found either in "Legends II - Dragon, Sword and King, edited by Robert Silverberg" or in the original hard- and softcover editions of "Legends II" from 2003 & 2004. There is also a rendition as a graphic novel by the same name: "The Sworn Sword". 3. The Mystery Knight A short story to be found either in "Warriors, edited by George R.R. Martin and Gardner Dozois" or in the paperback "Warriors 1, edited by George R.R. Martin and Gardner Dozois". No graphic novel... yet. Two more Dunk & Egg stories yet to be written have already been described. They are known as "The She-wolves of Winterfell" and "The Village Hero". Both of these are working titles, though, not final titles. Four additional titles have been mentioned by Martin: "The Sellsword", "The Champion", "The Kingsguard", and "The Lord Commander". Will the Dunk & Egg tales be published in one book? The first three tales of Dunk and Egg will be published in one book, titled "A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms", to be released in english on 6-10-2015. In some other languages, however, it has already been published. "A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms" will contain pages filled with artwork, which the other versions don't have. Was Dunk ever knighted by Ser Arlan? In spoiler tags: Are there any descendants of Dunk alive in the series today? Yes. GRRM has expressed that we'd meet one of Dunk's descendants. Brienne of Tarth finds the shield Dunk owns in The Hedge Knight. Hodor is often heavily suspected to be a descendant of Dunk's due to his enormous size, and the fact that people believe the young girl and the "knight as tall as Hodor" in the vision Bran sees in A Dance with Dragons are Old Nan (in her youth) and Dunk, and that the event is to take place during The She-Wolves of Winterfell. Small Paul (from the Night's Watch) has also been suggested to be a descendant of Dunks, due to his size and the mention of "thick as a castle wall", which is also used to describe Dunk. On the main series: When was Robert Baratheon declared King? Around the time of the Battle of the Trident. Why were Ned and Robert at the Eyrie when mad king Aerys II sent to Jon Arryn for their heads? It is true Ned and Robert were past their squiring and fostering age, when they visited Jon Arryn together at the Eyrie at that certain time. There is clarification on this both in TWoIaF and an older SSM telling that they liked to spend some of their time there together. What is the right of the first night? The right of the first night, better known as droit du seigneur (which only looks French, although it is English usage, the French use different terminology) or jus primae noctis is a medieval custom that has been abolished in Westeros (by Jaeherys I & Septon Barth) as in the real world (apart from a few small islands in the English channel). It allows the lord to be the first to consummate any marriage before the husband, thus potentially to sire numerous bastard children. In the real world, husbands would pay a fee to their lord for not making use of this right. What is "guest right" and why is it so important? The guest right is a sacred law of hospitality. When a guest, no matter the station of birth, eats the food and drinks the drink beneath the host's roof, the guest right is invoked. Bread and salt are the traditional provisions. When invoked, neither the guest is allowed to do harm to his host, nor is the host allowed to do harm to his guest for the length of the guest's stay. For either to do so would be to break a sacred covenant that is believed to invoke the wrath of the Gods both old and new. Both the teachings of the old gods and the Faith of the Seven hold to this. Even robber lords and wreckers are bound by the ancient laws of hospitality. Guest gifts can be given when the guests depart, ending the guest right. House Manderly practises this tradition in A Dance with Dragons. Breaking the guest right is seen as a terrible thing. The example stated in the books concern the Rat Cook. A cook in the Night's Watch who killed the kings son, and cooked the son in a pie he served to the king, leading to the unknowingly eating his own son. The gods punished the Rat Cook, by turning him into a giant rat who could only feed by eating its own young. The gods did not punish the cook for feeding the king his own son, but for killing a man beneath his own roof. Does the Wall block warging? It appears so. Jon Snow isn't capable of connecting with Ghost anymore, when they have the Wall in between them, nor can Jon, warged in Ghost, feel Summer when Summer is north of the Wall, and Jon and Ghost south. Whether this is the same for each warg/skinchanger, or depends on the strength of the individual, is a matter of discussion. It does appear that Bran, warged into the weirwood net, can see south of the Wall, whilst being north of it. What's the kindness Jaime never did? Jaime is referring to Tysha, and how Tyrion believed that Jaime bought Tysha's services to make Tyrion into a man (making him lose his virginity). Jaime never paid Tysha, however, as Tysha wasn't a whore. In other words, a kindness that Jaime never did. In A Dance with Dragons, Septon Chayle is at the Wall. Wasn't he the septon at Winterfell? Didn't he die in A Clash of Kings? Indeed. This is an error., Septon Cellador is the Septon at Castle Black. Septon Chayle, as far as is known, is dead. If the gates in King's Landing were closed, how did Arya get to the harbor? You need to cross a gate... A well known issue. People have tried to find explanations for it, but most have not yet been satisfied. Here's the most recent given explanation. How come Cersei and Margaery need a Kingsguard Knight to defend them in their trials in A Dance with Dragons, while Gregor Clegane, not a Kingsguard Knight, was allowed to defend Cersei in Tyrion's trial in A Storm of Swords? Because in Tyrion's trial, it wasn't Cersei who stood accused.. Tyrion was accused, Cersei the accuser. Tyrion didn't necessarily need to use a Kingsguard knight in that trial because he isn't royalty. In Cersei's case in Dance (and in Margaery's case, should she opt for a trial by combat, should her first trial fail), Cersei is the Queen Regent, Margaery the Queen. They are royalty, and it is them who stand accued. They are not the accusers. Thus, they need a Kingsguard to defend them. If knights are custom of the followers of the Seven, why there are knights in the North (Old Gods) and in the Iron Islands (Drowned God)? There aren't many. So far we know of a single Ironborn knight. Knights from the North spring forth from a few sources: 1. White Harbor and the Manderlys The Manderys in White harbor brought the new gods and Southern customs along, so knighthood is more common there. 2. Houses near the Neck Houses who have business with the South may have a few knights, as customs mingle. 3. War returnees Some Northerners simply get knighted by Southern nobility during war time, it cannot be helped. Ser Jorah Mormont is an example. 4. Hedge Knights and Freeriders People living the life of a hedge knight or freeriders in service in the South might face the same treatment, when the do too many chivalrous deeds, although an example is missing here. Who can make a knight? Any knight can make a knight. As knighthood is a form of distinction, the higher in renown or social status the maker, the better for the image of the knight made. Kings can also knight people, but lords cannot (unless they have once been knighted themselves). So for example, King Robert Baratheon, knighted in his youth, can knight people (and has) because he is a knight himself, and because he is a king. King Baelor I, a king, but not a knight, could have knighted anyone he wanted to. Lord Eddard Stark, never knighted himself, can't knight anyone. Which Targaryens had deformed children? * King Maegor I Targaryen (multiple malformed children by multiple wives) * Daemon Targaryen (a malformed son by Lady Laena Velaryon) * Rhaenyra Targaryen (a malformed stillborn daughter, Visenya, by Prince Daemon, according to Mushroom) * Daenerys Targaryen (a malformed stillborn son, Rhaego, by Khal Drogo) How big do dragons grow? Dragons seem just to grow if they get enough food and space. How old are Dany's dragons as of the end of Dance? Born in early 299 AC, the dragons are currently around 1,5 years old. Who is Jon Snow's mother? Have a look into the first post of the current (fixed) R+L=J thread in the General ASoIaF forum. It links to collections of theories on Jon Snow's parentage. Who are the marcher lords? Marcher lords are powerful lords who guard region near border with Dorne, known as the Dornish Marches. They have large keeps and maintain large forces, to defend lands of the Reach and Stormlands in case of Dornish attack. Marcher lords: - in the Stormlands: House Selmy, House Dondarrion, House Swann, House Caron - in the Reach: House Tarly, possibly House Peake When Arya is serving at Harrenhal, she sees Roose Bolton cautionly turning the pages of a very ornate and fragile book, before throwing it to the fire. Do we know which book was that? No. Any other questions: Is The Ice Dragon part of the asoiaf universe? No, it is not. Continue
  2. Rhaenys_Targaryen

    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    I'm not sure if the first one is possible, but I'll take a look!
  3. Rhaenys_Targaryen

    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    Like this?
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    Small Questions v. 10106

    I always assumed Varys refers with "ghosts" to the builders who made the castle and its secret passages, and were killed once the work was done. In 45 AC, construction finally came to an end on the Red Keep. King Maegor celebrated its completion by feasting the builders and workmen who had labored on the castle, sending them wagonloads of strong wine and sweetmeats, and whores from the city’s finest brothels. The revels lasted for three days. Afterward, the king’s knights moved in and put all the workmen to the sword, to prevent them from even revealing the Red Keep’s secrets. Their bones were interred beneath the castle that they had built
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    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    For example Maegor I Targaryen, Rogar Baratheon, Qoren Martell
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    [Spoilers] Fire and Blood Errata

    Possibly an errata, although it could definitely be explained away. A dragon egg was placed in Aemon's cradle shortly after his birth: The king returned from the west a moon's turn before the queen was due, so he might be at her side when she delivered. The child came precisely when the maesters had said he would; a boy, clean-limbed and healthy, with eyes as pale as lilac. His hair, when it came in, was pale as well, shining like white gold, a color rare even in Valyria of old. Jaehaerys named him Aemon. "Daenerys will be cross with me,'' Alysanne said, as she put the princeling to her breast. "She was most insistent on wanting a sister." Jaehaerys laughed at that and said, "Next time.'' That night, at Alysanne's suggestion, he placed a dragons egg in the prince's cradle. But Aemon at the age of seventeen claimed the dragon Caraxes from the Dragonpit, suggesting that he had not bonded with the dragon that hatched from his egg, if a dragon hatched from it at all. The fact that no further dragon (or the egg itself) is mentioned is a bit odd. Of course it can be explained that a dragon hatched from the egg but Aemon did not bond with it, or that it died, or the egg never hatched at all. But the omission of such a mention is strange. Was something edited out here?
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    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    Any other opinions on this?
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    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    @Gonzalo No comments on the current contents of the manual of style itself? I can take a look at making it collapsible per king this weekend. We have no intoboxes for Hands of the King, if I'm not mistaken? Or do you mean template boxes used at the bottom of the pages?
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    Errors in the WOIAF

    @zionius Are updates similar to the ones for TWOIAF done for TRP, TSOTD, and TPATQ?
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    Errors in the WOIAF

    Thanks for the tag! Very interested indeed for these kinds of updates Much appreciated!
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    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    Seems to work! Thanks!
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    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    @Ran, There seems to be a problem with the wiki: edits can no longer be saved (it states there has been a loss of session data), and pages have great trouble loading.
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    [Spoilers] Fire and Blood Errata

    Yandel doesn't mention a number of other things. His focus is elsewhere, but that does not automatically make him wrong about everything. Perhaps Barth was sent later on, but the only account we have stating this (Yandel's) is contradictory nonetheless. So I suppose the question is: Do we have to consider this part of TWOIAF invalid now that F&B has been released, or should we treat this as two maesters reporting different accounts of history, leaving it unclear whether Yandel or Gyldayn (or neither) is correct? Perhaps @Ran knows more about this matter?
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    [Spoilers] Fire and Blood Errata

    And yet, Gyldayn states that Jaehaerys and the Faith agreed to have that power being taken away from the Faith in the quoted part above (expanded shortly after posting and thus absent in the post of mine that you quoted). And even if the true reconciliation occurred in 54 AC (although Gyldayn calls the events of 48 AC the reconciliation on several occasions in the book), that still does not fit with Yandel's account, which states that Barth was sent to Oldtown by Jaehaerys to achieve the things Gyldayn states Jaehaerys himself achieved in 48 AC.
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    [Spoilers] Fire and Blood Errata

    Could someone with a later print of TWOIAF than the first one (or perhaps with a ebook version which is up-to-date) check if Septon Barth's year of death as stated in the chapter on Jaehaerys I has been corrected from 99 AC to 98 AC?
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    [Spoilers] Fire and Blood Errata

    The World of Ice and Fire states the following: Yet some say the most important achievement of the rule of Jaehaerys and Septon Barth was a reconciliation with the Faith. The Poor Fellows and Warrior's Sons, no longer hunted as they had been in Maegor's day, were much reduced and officially outlawed thanks to Maegor, but they were still present. And still restless, in their eagerness to restore their orders. More pressingly, the Faith's traditional right to judge its own had begun to prove troublesome, and many lords complained of unscrupulous septries and septons making free with the wealth and property of their neighbors and those they preached to. Some counselors urged the Old King to deal with the remnants of the Faith Militant harshly—to stamp them out once and for all before their zealotry could return the realm to chaos. Others cared more for ensuring that the septons were answerable to the same justice as the rest of the realm. But Jaehaerys instead dispatched Septon Barth to Oldtown, to speak with the High Septon, and there they began to forge a lasting agreement. In return for the last few Stars and Swords putting down their weapons, and for agreeing to accept outside justice, the High Septon received King Jaehaerys's sworn oath that the Iron Throne would always protect and defend the Faith. In this way, the great schism between crown and Faith was forever healed. Yet Jaehaerys and the Faith had been reconciled, and the agreements bolded had been made before Barth ever arrived in King's Landing. So how are we to reconcile the account of Yandel with Gyldayn's writings?
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    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    So multiple lists of characters with the same or a similar name? We already have that in the sense of disambiguation pages, which can all be found under Category:Disambiguation pages
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    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    The definition of "namesake" is "a person or thing that has the same name as another." English is not my first language either, but from that definition I take it that everyone who is named after someone is that person's namesake. However, the other way around it is not interchangeable (like in your Theon example, Theon Greyjoy is Theon Stark's namesake, but he was not named after Stark). I'm curious, what kind of information would go on such a page? Do you already have something in mind?
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    [Spoilers] Fire and Blood Errata

    With Olyver being used most frequently, I would suggest using that spelling until we get confirmation that it should be otherwise, but add a note stating the contradictions regarding his given name (including both "Olyvar" and "Royce" in that note).
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    Small Questions v. 10106

    Not entirely a true story. In Fire and Blood, we learn the following: [Visenya] was not without humor, however, and for many years kept her own fool, a hirsute hunchback called Lord Monkeyface whose antics amused her greatly. When he choked to death on a peach pit, the queen acquired an ape and dressed it in Lord Monkeyface's clothing. "The new one is cleverer," she was wont to say. It seems this is what Axell was referring to, twisting the truth in such a way as to insult Davos (which was his goal with the statement). No other Targaryens fit the description.
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    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    In some Family sections, where the family trees are displayed, we now have in text an explanation of the family tree. Is this something we want to do? Or is that more or less repeating what is said elsewhere on the page, as history sections state who a character was married to and how many children they had?
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    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    Hmm.. the page currently deals with issues directly related to the king and his regents, and that is not something that applies to each of these events described here, I think (but I am not sure, as I cannot check the text at the moment). Nor are all conflicts related to the same main conflict (as is the case for all the struggles during the Dance), so at the moment I would be inclined to say that a template is not the best option. Of course, the information for these struggles should be mentioned on the text the pages where they are relevant. (The struggles surrounding Dalton's succession on the pages of House Greyjoy and all those involved, for exampl). If the relevance allows for it, separate pages can be created.
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    Small Questions v. 10106

    Not in any other words than those I quoted. The link provides the search for the term.
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    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    Thanks! I'll add the reference to the House Karstark page! And no worries, replying here is fine Btw, replying to talk pages can be done the same way as editing a page, simply by hitting the "edit" button. When you do add something to a talk page, don't forget to add your signature (by typing --~~~~)!
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    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    With so many new users on the wiki lately, I figured it would be a good idea to update our Manual of Style. I've reshuffeled the information that was present and added some items by describing the way such things have been done and agreed upon over the past few years. What other items should still be added? Do you feel some items could benefit from some expansion? Please share your thoughts
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