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  1. Rhaenys_Targaryen

    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    Even characters who appear in the canon can have information attached to them created only for the game. Without knowing what info is (semi-)canon, and what was created for the game specifically, we cannot enter the information on the wiki, IMO.
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    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    I know that it used to state that. But if it is no longer there in the app, the statement should be removed from the wiki as well.
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    Small Questions v. 10106

    @Ran, perhaps you can clarify this?
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    Wow, I never noticed that. Vol. 18

    Why can we cross it out? Being six early in 298 AC and being eight early in 300 AC leave the exact same possibilities. "Eight going on three" does not mean that he was eight years and three months old. It means that he is eight years old, but acts as if he is three years old. (https://linguaphiles.livejournal.com/4724430.html) The only things that quote tell us is that: 1) Robert was 8 in early 300 AC, and 2) that he does not act his age. It would be more consistent with Martin's usage of text elsewhere. For example, we know that the Sack of KL, in which Elia Martell died, took place near the end of 283 AC. In late 299 AC, that event is described as 16 years ago, in early 300 AC, as 17 years. Gods, I hope not. "Wars and weddings have kept us well occupied, Prince Oberyn. I fear no one has yet had the time to look into murders sixteen yearsstale, dreadful as they were. We shall, of course, just as soon as we may. Any help that Dorne might be able to provide to restore the king's peace would only hasten the beginning of my lord father's inquiry—" (ASOS Tyrion 5) ' He wanted justice for Elia, but he would not wait—" "He waited ten-and-seven years," the Lady Nym broke in. (AFFC The Captain of Guards) The Blackfyre Rebellion, which lasted almost a year and both began and ended in 196 AC, is both said to have started and ended sixteen years ago by characters in TMK. As the start and end of the event are nearly a year apart, these characters too look at the difference betweem the current year (212 AC) and the year of the event (196 AC). Sixteen years ago, a bastard son of King Aegon IV named Daemon Blackfyre had risen in revolt against his trueborn brother. "I remember now. Ser Arlan never liked to talk about the Redgrass Field, but once in his cups he told me how his sister's son had died." He could almost hear the old man's voice again, smell the wine upon his breath. "Roger of Pennytree, that was his name. His head was smashed in by a mace wielded by a lord with three castles on his shield." Lord Gormon Peake. The old man never knew his name. Or never wanted to. By that time Lord Peake and John the Fiddler and their party were no more than a plume of red dust in the distance. It was sixteen years ago. The Pretender died, and those who followed him were exiled or forgiven. Anyway, it has nought to do with me. If there is anything in the text that can demonstrate that he was born in 291 AC and the interpretation of five years ago is wrong, please let me know. But 'eight going on three' does not demonstrate anything regarding his age, except that he is eight years old.
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    The Wiki-Timeline Project v2

    I think so. I agree with 261 AC in any case. But keep in mind that it is not 50 that is a hard cut-off. For the sake of consistency, I would suggest adding this text that has been added so similar calculations thusfar: The Westerosi consider the age of forty-two to be "past [a woman's] childbearing years", and forty-four to be "well past her childbearing years",{{Ref|fab|The Year of the Three Brides - 49 AC}}{{Ref|fab|Birth, Death, and Betrayal Under King Jaehaerys I}}{{Ref|fab|The Long Reign - Jaehaerys and Alysanne: Policy, Progeny, and Pain}} although women of forty-four have been known to give birth to a child.{{Ref|fab|Birth, Death, and Betrayal Under King Jaehaerys I}}{{Ref|fab|The Long Reign - Jaehaerys and Alysanne: Policy, Progeny, and Pain}} In real-life, the end of a woman's fertile cycle (menopause) occurs at an age of 49-52 on average, giving ~52 as a maximum age for giving birth to a child. So, Donnella would have been born, based on her daughter's age, no earlier than ~244 AC.
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    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    Thanks!
  7. That was a mistake. It has been fixed by @Thomaerys Velaryon
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    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    The wiki page on Quenton Corbray states that Corwyn Corbray was a second son. Where is this stated?
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    Wow, I never noticed that. Vol. 18

    They are two different ships (one is a swan ship, the other a trading cog, with two completely different crews). Nor is the Selaesory Qhoran carrying cargo from the Cinnamon Wind. There are more ships at the sea that carry dragon peppers Nor would Aemon's corpse have remained on board of the Cinnamon Wind after it arrived at Oldtown.
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    Wow, I never noticed that. Vol. 18

    What makes you think he was born in 291 AC? Robert was 6 in 298 AC, placing his birth in either 292 AC (if he turned 6 in 298 AC) or 291 AC (if he would be turning 7 later than year). Robert was 8 in 300 AC, placing his birth in either 292 AC (if he turned 8 in 300 AC) or 291 AC (if he would be turning 9 later than year). And, he was less than a year old in 293 AC (when Catelyn had seen him last, five years prior to 298 AC). Being less than a year old in 293 AC would mean that he had either been born that year (293 AC), or would have turned 1 later that year, which would place his birth in 292 AC.. As 292 AC is the only overlapping year in all the possibilities, the conclusion is that that is the year of his birth. If there is anything I missed, I'd love to hear it! And if you think you've spotted mistakes in the calculations, please notify the editors in this thread, so they can be fixed. The ages of the Freys on the wiki have been calculated (like all other calculations) with a lot of precision, and with the idea in mind that no character would have been younger than 12 at the birth of their first child. For a lot of Freys, that leaves a range of possible years, sometimes spanning more than three decades. And of course, as with all else, a mistake can happen every now and then. As stated above, when you think you've spotted one, please point in out in the linked thread. Regarding Danwell, his last possible year of birth (261 AC) depends on his younger brother Merrett, who was born in 262 AC. Merrett and Danwell would have been at least one year apart in age, and thus Danwell was born no later than 261 AC. I'm not sure why you think that the range of years of birth given for Danwell make your theory impossible though? The squires had been less than 15 years old. If Danwell had taken part of the joust, he would not have been one of the squires. (A family member could have squired for him, though).
  11. Being mentioned by a character, being described in thought or memory, or being seen in a dream or a look into the past (Bran's in ADWD).
  12. Rhaenys_Targaryen

    Small Questions v. 10106

    His skull ay least was, along with his twin's, as Connington seems them outside of the commander's tent: The captain-general's tent was made of cloth-of-gold and surrounded by a ring of pikes topped with gilded skulls. One skull was larger than the rest, grotesquely malformed. Below it was a second, no larger than a child's fist. Maelys the Monstrous and his nameless brother. The other skulls had a sameness to them, though several had been cracked and splintered by the blows that had slain them, and one had filed, pointed teeth. "Which one is Myles?" Griff found himself asking. As Jon can easily identify Maelys's skull and mentions the one with the filed teeth separately, it doesn't seem that he was the one to have done so. Edit: We know only Bittersteel, Maelys, Myles Toyne, and Daemon Blackfyre as deceased commanders. The first three are not the one who had their teeth filed, so either it was Daemon, or one of the commanders who have not yet been named.
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    Targaryen-Baratheons - How fiery is the blood of the stag?

    The Targaryens are not the only kings Asha is the daughter of a king, while Mance himself was a king.
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    Small Questions v. 10106

    "By right of birth and blood" refers IMO to Stannis's blood relation to Robert, and to the fact that he is trueborn, as opposed to Joffrey, who is not related to Robert, and who is bastard born. That the Baratheons had not yet claimed the throne at the time of Stannis's birth does not feature into this. The quote about Robert's better claim from AGOT is more telling, I think, even if GRRM had not yet decided how recent the Targaryen ancestor was. That it referred to Orys Baratheon, however, seems unlikely to me, as that is rumored Targaryen ancestry from 300 years ago.
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    [Spoilers] Fire and Blood Errata

    Interesting. @Ran, am I correct in assuming that in these instances, we should follow the ebook version and consider the printed text to be in error?
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