When Harry met Sansa

Har-har, very funny, but what I am trying to say is that Jaime and Brienne are like a pair of brothers; they are both masculine. Brienne's interaction with Jaime, her blushing when they're naked together in the bath and everything is because she's extremely awkward when it comes to men (virgin, hasn't really seen too many naked dudes, Jaime saves her from being raped, etc.). There is little to suggest an actual lust between Jaime and Brienne. GRRM as I'm sure most people know also was a producer on the Beauty and the Beast TV series, so the connection there is evident, but still IMO not very likely to actually happen given the overall lack of evidence.

I mean I agree that the Shae-lying part can be changed; they've done a good job of setting Shae up to be a "spurned lover" so that bit could work, but there's still no way she's not in the Tower with Tywin if that happens. Also the show does an excellent job of setting up what will happen in the coming episode in the 3-4 minutes of "Previously on Game of Thrones-look at Episode 1 with the scene from S2 where Lommy dies, then have Arya kill Polliver at the end of the episode (also thought it was hilarious GRRM released the new Arya chapter from TWoW on the same day with her saying the same words to Raff). If the show is going to work the spurned-lover Shae theme, Tyrion will still kill her before he kills Tywin. She'll be there-we still NEED the motivation for Tywin to die and I don't think Tysha is enough. That said, if they choose to get rid of Shae completely, I almost want to guarantee they'll do a "Previously on Game of Thrones" scene from S1 when they're in the tent and Tyrion talks about Tysha, then have Jaime tell him the story when Tyrion is escaping and have that be the sole motivation for killing Tywin. They absolutely have to have one or the other, and obviously I hope they have both.

I don't believe the love she has for Jaime in the books is the same love she has for Renly; with Jaime it is almost like a sibling thing, like a brother. They've been through a lot together; it is, for lack of a better comparison, a love between men who fight together, like what Robert and Ned had-brothers bound by war and hardship. The love she has for Jaime isn't the same as what she felt for Renly. I mean if that's your point I guess I see that slightly but still her honor to Cat is the main reason she heads out and she feels like she owes Jaime as well. That wasn't what Cersei meant tonight when she asked her, and her response didn't indicate that either, so it's just likely, knowing how the show operates, that they will try to make that the main motivation.

I agree. What really irked me about this episode wasn't just the unnecessary BS like this-it's the fact that GRRM wrote this episode and chose to include it. Do we really need to deviate from the books so much for absolutely no point when we know the tiny little interactions tonight will go nowhere? Setting up a Brienne-loves-Jaime-arc is just stupid; it's already been established that Brienne was in love with Renly, which the viewer is reminded of in episode 1 of this season when she immediately goes to see Margery and tell her of what happened in the tent the night Renly died. On top of that, we know already that Cat meant a good deal to Brienne as she respected her greatly and her desire to eventually seek out the missing Stark girls this season should be fueled by her honor and the promise she made to Cat, not out of some misguided love for Jaime arc that I feel the show is going to go down. The other really unnecessary wedding interaction tonight was the Jaime-Loras exchange. Not only do we have the visual exchange between Loras and Oberyn that we could really do without (Look, the show is handling Oberyn 10x better than they handled Renly; this GoT Seanzoz parody still perfectly captures how book Renly was so B.A. and the show went a little over-gay with him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWgCMIg-E9Y), but then we have Jaime being so much weaker than we have him in the book as well. Along with Tyrion, Jaime probably has the best arc across the series and while we're sort of always on board for Team Tyrion, getting to root for Jaime starting in ASoS and onward is a really cool experience. Yet last week rather than have Jaime come to the realization that there is still much he hasn't accomplished, which is sort of paramount to his arc's turn, it is Joffrey who reminds him, no doubt continuing to somehow make TV Joff worse than book Joff, who was still incredibly awful. The payout this week with Joff's death makes that scene from last week better, as it establishes that he can be a real shit to even the closest of his family members (we've seen this often with Tyrion, occasionally with Cersei.) But then this week that one look between Loras and Oberyn followed by the verbal beating that Jaime takes at Loras' hands is a little too much. Loras, just like Brienne, loved only Renly and begging Jaime to take the White Cloak is one of Loras' first actions once the two are in the same scene. The show seems to have other plans, which is annoying given Loras' arc later on and why he is so hellbent on taking Dragonstone.

There's absolutely no way Shae left. Not only do we not see her leaving and even the Unsullied are left believing that she probably didn't leave given the way the scene was handled, her presence in the Tower of the Hand is too paramount to Tyrion's rationale behind killing Tywin. It exposes Tywin--certainty not for the first but ultimately the last time--as a terrible hypocrite and the fact that Shae indeed was lying to Tyrion the whole time is foiled with the revelation that Tysha was indeed what Tyrion thought she was--only a crofter's daughter.