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Yeah I totally get that non-readers love the show. Every unsullied who asks me if they should get the books I immediately shoot them down. I tell them straight up they will get significantly more enjoyment out of GRRM's story if they just watch the show and never bother with the books. For TV it's an awesome show. As a book reader I already know they could have done a better job. Sometimes I wish I didn't read the books so that I could enjoy the TV series more. I know they cannot include everything but I do expect a reasonable amount of quality. They only get one shot at this. When they cut out important book material, interpret it poorly, waste air time on character development for shitty background characters, create original, extremely lame characters unnecessarily, make other characters heroes and other villains out of bias, ect., that's not cool.

No one is doing this. You are glossing over why people (legitimately) are complaining about the show. There have been changes and omissions from the source material that have been terrible and nonsensical and 100% worthy of criticism. I know that they can't 100% adapt the books and that's not what I expect. Some of the things HBO have done are noticeably bad though.

Hahaha. But seriously, the Stannis stuff better be epic next week.

True. The book is the standard and the show falls WAY short of the book too often. It's disappointing because they only get one shot at this. I doubt there will ever be another adaptation at ASOIAF.

This times 100. It should have been WAY more epic. You know it's bad when my unsullied friends who love everything are yawning and think it's boring.

I gave it 6. It seemed all over the place and not as epic as it should have been. They also wasted a lot of time with filler.

This. Very poor episode all around.

1/10. The worst episode of the series so far.

I agree. This is one of the best and most powerful scenes in the books. And it wasn't done justice. But neither was the scene with Cersei and Jaime in the sept. Unsullied don't know what they're missing out on. TV is nowhere as good as the real thing.

Another thing...Rorge and Biter reduced to a couple of non threatening fools. Again though, I am a book reader foremost. I like authenticity.

I can't agree. The Winterfell castle scene was one of my very favorite chapters ever from any book, but they portrayed Sansa terribly. And the Brienne scenes were created by the show writers. I don't like anything not authentic to GRRM.

Season 2 Gregor looks like he''s an 8 foot tall crack fiend. They got the height right but he was a skinny motherfucker.

Oh man I really don't like how the Mountain looks now. I guess it's hard to find actors with suitable dimension though. Season 1 Gregor was the best.

4. I didn't enjoy the fan fiction too much although there were some pretty good scenes, especially the last one. Lysa Arryn's actress is outstanding.

Well crafted episode. 8/10