GoldHandTheGood

That was definitely rape. I'm not upset over the handling or existence of the scene (other than the fact that it was horrifying to watch), but it most certainly was rape. I continue to have high praise for Sophie and Alfie's acting.

Cersei doesn't know about Sansa/Ramsay, so far. Whether she ever will, I don't know. If she were to find out, I'm sure she'd take appropriate action, but my point was that the show is employing the logic, as explained by Littlefinger to Roose, that the Lannisters are significantly less powerful without Tywin (like as if he really excreted gold), and that Roose's deal with the Lannisters is somehow up in the air, which in show-world, limits Cersei's options if she does find out (And Roose goes on to explain how the South won't send an army that far North, not even for Stannis). I think show Littlefinger is banking on Cersei being too preoccupied with other things, but yes, it doesn't make too much sense, but it is what it is. I just roll with it now, and still enjoy the show. In the books:

I don't think it's literally "the minute you are attacked or violated somehow light a candle all the way at the top of the broken tower", its more if she finds herself suddenly no longer safe in a longterm, or continual sense(which is already the case whether she knows it or not), as in "Ramsay is violating and abusing me every day, and will continue, or is planning to violate and abuse me in worse ways than he has so far, therefore next chance I get I'll light the candle." It's a dumbass plan, but it's not that stupid.

1. The show is not as beholden to the books as it once was, and this includes in-world logic. While Sansa is still married to Tyrion, the marriage was never consummated. While we know a septon usually needs to nullify it, it's not exactly like we will have Tyrion riding along to object, as he's a wanted kinslayer, and Cersei, while she will certainly find out and object, is not going to send an army north to wrest her back from the Boltons. The show established this when Roose pointed out that the South wouldn't send an army that far North to help against Stannis, as they have never done in show canon history according to Roose. The crown would simply end its allegiance with the Bolton's, but what Roose seems to need now is the North's complete allegiance, which Sansa will help with, not the crown's (In show logic, not book :dunno: ). To have this make any kind of sense, the show had to change the rules. It appears that Tywin Lannister's death somehow destroyed most of the Lannister power, according to Littlefinger, as the name is not what it "once was". My ultimate point is that show logic and world consistency is not intrinsically tied to book logic and world consistency as it once was. Give out about it all you want, but I wouldn't fall into the trap of "that can't happen cos x"; the rules have changed, and will keep changing, and tbh, I can understand why they have altered some of the plot threads and consistency for this season. Having Sansa join Winterfell storyline has her story merge with a story the viewers are already familiar with. It also means not have to cast a whole new Vale story, and Sansa can interact with key, familiar characters. Even though some of the inconsistencies irk me, I'm not as upset about them as I'd thought I'd be. The sansa winterfell merge is actually quite interesting, and for once I feel like the stories are able to breathe again, without having to fit too much in. I've accepted the inconsistencies as the inevitable ripple effect of plot changes, running out of source material for various characters, and budgetary and casting concerns. It's bad writing, but the show oddly enough still has me hooked.