How the Song May End

[B-rad]

Ok here is my super complex theory on how the series will end bittersweet.

The main guideline I use as sort of a backbone for my theory, and the guideline is GRRM's tendency to favor the rejects of this world. The rejects consist of Jon who lived as nothing more then a living representation of the most honorable man in the world's mistake, Dany who lived started out as a slave living to make her brother more powerful, Ser Barristan who is considered one of the greatest warriors in the world but is very old and has spent his life serving terrible kings, Tyrion a dwarf who shouldn't even be alive, Robin Arryn who is a sickly little boy who should be dead already like Tyrion, Theon Greyjoy, who's suppose to be a fearless hard man but has spent most of his life with truly good people while being told he's nothing more then a prisoner, Jaime who became a reject by losing his hand, Loras who is a shining knight but is also homosexual, and Brienne who is woman that is very unattractive but a fierce warrior and manny more. Shinning characters like Rob Stark, Raegar Targaryen, and Kal Drogo were killed off because they weren't rejects they were the ones who were suppose to beat the odds and defeat their enemies but they didn't. So I believe that the ultimate plan is to have the rejects win.

Jon turns out not to be Raegar and Lyannas son (no white hair, no dreams of dragons, and Aemon Targaryan never even considered Jon to be a Targaryan: if Jon was Aemon would've figured it out blind or not) but instead Jon is the son of Brandon Stark and Ashara Dayne, this way there can be the irony of Rob being more handsome and fearsome then Jon when Brandon was considered more handsome and fearsome then Ned, also it would allow Jon to as George Martin said become the new sword of the morning and AA ( not the prince that was promised they're separate things and Jon is not a targaryan). And why Ned wouldn't tell anyone would be to save the honor of his older brother and the woman he loved. That being said though I do still believe Raegar and Lyanna had a child but instead of Ned raising him/ her it would be Howland Reed in the secretive swamps where Robert would have no idea the Targaryan exists (Ned couldn't of raised him/ her because he/ her would have white hair and people would know he/ her was a Targaryan. So once Jon is saved from his wounds from whatever way ( most likely the sacrifice of sweet Shireen by the red woman) a small force of white walkers attack the wall with the person saving them being none other then Benjen Stark. Not long after individuals from house Dayne come to tell Jon the truth about his parent while giving him the sword of the morning because of his bravery he displayed with the raid on the wall and how he has become Lord commander of the nights watch. Jon knowing they need more help on the wall names Benjen Lord Commander while he goes and finds whoever he can to help fight the incoming white rider and the hell that follows them (hell being winter and white riders white walkers). Meanwhile Stannis has defeated the Boltons down south and has increased his forces with the Northeners. While traveling south he runs into Gendry who he immediately recognizes as Roberts bastard who he names his son and legitimizes to help strengthen his claim. In the Riverlands Blackfish and Cat reach out to Littlefinger to send troops from the Vale to help them takeover the Riverlands for the Tully's (not Edmure though he's an idiot). While this is happening Cat has Jamie travel to the Vale in secret to get Sansa and the has orders Brienne to go to Braavos to save Arya (who she heard was in Braavos from Little Finger because he has been keeping track of Arya but didn't tell anyone in case Sansa dies Arya would be the second choice or the Lysa Arryn).

Theon was kept alive by Stannis because he revealed that Bran and Rickon are alive and he swore fealty to Stannis and that he would get the iron born to serve him. The on ends up unexpectedly regain his health and become strong. When Asha has left with Ironborn from the North and from the Iron islands to attack the Reach while Euron remains at Pyke. While Aeron Greyjoy returns to Pyke with a giant kraken to fight Euron. Euron and what soldiers are left on the Iron islands but is unsuccessful. Then Theon arrives right on time with his strength somewhat regained and his archery skills sharpened once again. He defeats the kraken by shooting right in the eye. The iron born name Theon King of the iron islands for this and Euron escapes.

Stannis begins his conquest of the Riverlands while Blackfish begins his as well and the Freys get their comeback by being caught in the crossfire, and with the Lannister forces being pulled out in case Aegon's conquest becomes a bigger deal then people first thought leaving the Freys almost helpless and getting what they deserve. In the Vale as time progresses in the books I believe the lords of the Vale are sort of going to be like the Victorians, appearing dignified and proper but doing creepy things when no one is looking, like Lord Corbray molesting little Robin after getting drunk at Sansa and Harry's wedding and Little Finger having Sansa become the Lady of the Vale by her being married to Harry the heir then having Sansa kill him. Lord Corbray then hoping Robin doesn't tell the whole world he's a creep makes a deal with Little Finger to have Robin killed in exchange for support. But Robin runs to Sansa who has become like a mother to him and Sansa defies Littlefinger and runs off with little Robin after Baelish attempts to rape Sansa in his rage at her defiance. Littlefinger and soldiers try looking for Sansa and Robin but when they find them, Jaime is there to save them and help prove he is becoming a true knight by defending the weak, and he reminds Littlefinger that he is just a little man like Brandon Stark had reminded him, then Jaime nearly kills him and he unknowingly escapes.

Rickon has also been retrieved by Davos and Davis was able to convince them that the Skagosi should fight for Stannis. Davos also raises Rickon a little bit so he becomes more like his father Ned.

In Kingslanding Cersei has her trial by combat where the person who decides to fight Ser Robert the strong is the Hound (who has been revived in a similar manner as his brother). The two brothers kill each other in the battle with Robert winning but the hound revealing the Knight is not a human which causes the lockup of Cersei and the takeover of the Tyrells. Down south Aegon is proving to be like the man he was named after and is conquering Westeros rather nicely with the Martells allying with him and manny Stormland lords also supporting him. When he reaches Kingslanding the Faith militant and Tyrells practically hand him the crown. But this is where things get real trippy. When Aegon meets Cersei while Mercylla and Tommen are there in the throne room, Aegon orders both of the children to be killed right in front of Cersei showing that Aegon was the brother Maggy the Frog had prophesied, (making sense because it was prophesied in Valyrian and Aegon is Valyrain, and Aegon is a younger brother). This of course destroys Cersei and shocks about everyone including the know it all Varys and Aegon orders Cersei to be locked away. While Cersei rots away in her cell with the thought of her children dead on the ground and the remorse she feels for all of the horror she has done, making her even think she should've listened to Ned Stark, she looks up one last time at the most beautiful Queen she has ever seen who then takes off her face to reveal she is Arya the Queen of assassins who then swiftly ends Cersei's life (which fullfills the prophecy of Cersei being defeated by a younger and more beatiful Queen). While Arya's in town she also kills Ilyn Payne, Ser Maryn Trant and Qyburn (her actual target because of how he was pissing the God of Death off by bringing people back to life).

After Arya kills Qyburn she returns to Braavos to receive her new target, Lady Stoneheart (I know the assassins aren't allowed to kill people they know but I don't think they know Lady Stoneheart is Cat, instead all they know is that their is some undead bitch causing a lot of trouble that needs to be taken care of by Arya) before she leaves though Brienne finds Arya and tells her to come with her but she doesn't and instead of Brienne forcing her she pledges her fealty to Dany and tells Arya her mother and siblings are alive in the Riverlands. Since Arya is going to the Riverlands anyway she might as well visit her once again only to learn her target is her mother. She then with tears in her eyes kills her mother and leaves to continue being an assassin and finish her list. And Sansa who was staying with her mother then gets rescued by Varys to marry Aegon because she has a claim on the Westerlands, North, Riverlands, and the Vale, but by the time she marries him she is unromanticized by the childish notion of marrying a beautiful prince which is ironic because she's finally marrying the one of her dreams. Aegon is also still married to Margery so this brings up complications between her and Margery.

To the East Tyrion has proven that he is a Targaryan (with their being a lot of evidence for this including how he was considered almost white haired in the beginning of the series and how the timing works for Areys to have slept with Joanna causing Tyrion to be born and he being the punishment on Joanna for cheating on Tywin because of Geroge Martin's history of having his series feel like a Greek tragedy and he would be Areys revenge on Tywin by Tyrion being the one to kill Tywin, and it would be super ironic because it would mean Jaime killed Tyrion's father and Tyrion killed Jamie's father). Tyrion is also the true dragon Moqorro had predicted.

In addition I believe Moqqorro will revive Quentyn. How? By using the silent woman Euron gave to Vicatarion who is actually a Blackfyre (no one else would know but Euron because his whole crew and the woman are mute) Moqorro would sacrifice the girl to revive Quentyn who is the mummer dragon Dany foresaw. Why would Euron give this woman to Victarion? So a new dragon can rise in the east and and tear apart Westeros while he completes his other plans. Why I think Quentyn will be revived? Martin at this point had only had very important characters be a POV except for people with epilogues, prologuew, or just characters with one chapter so I belived Quentyn isn't done. Other evidence, Bran had a dream about three shadows, one with the face of a hound, one with armor like the sun, and one who was huge and headless. It can be easily deduced that the first one is the Hound, the second one can be seen as Martell because of the Sun representing their house, and the third one is obviously the mountain. So what would these three individuals have in common? Well Sandor and Gregor are brothers but a Martell being included doesn't really make sense, unless shadow means undead. This would make sense because we already know that Ser Robert is pretty much just a revived Ser Gregor, the only way the Hound can come back is if he somehow became undead (which could be done by Thoros of Myr who probably isn't that far away), and of Quentyn was revived then he would be the shining shadow. As a result of his resurrection he would also become more handsome as Bran described this shadow, more fearsome, and he would now officially have dragon's blood allowing him to have a claim on the throne but I will get to that later.

Now here's where things get real tricky, the forgings of Lightbringer are the representations of the three heads of the dragon, the dragon of the West (Tyrion) being the first forge which was destroyed by water which I believe means Tyrion will be killed by Marwyn who will turn out to be the son of Bloodraven and Shiera Seastar (evidence: Bloodraven and Shiera are the only two other individuals who are commonly thought of as having magic powers, the timing works, and while Marwyn doesn't seem to look like his father with huge hands and a fat belly, those are descriptions that match his grandfather Aegon the unworthy). Marwyn would represent water by his surname being being inherited from his father which would be Rivers, also almost all of Tyrion's close to death encounters have involved water, (his father saying how he wanted to throw him into the ocean, his near death at the battle of Blackwater, and him nearly drowning before he was saved by Jon Connington).

How this happens? Tyrion rules over the Eastern Essos empire in Braavos who has allied with Dany. While Tyrion is in Braavos, Dany eventually comes to see how things are going. She learns Quentyn lives and has left with Viserion, Victarion and his fleet (dumb Victarion is instructed by Moqorro to serve Quentyn), and Quentyn's plan is to rule over Dorne like his father had told him to do but I'll get back to this later. Meanwhile in Braavos Brien finds Dany and falls in love with who she is and pledges her service to her (because house Targaryan is the only house of the big four she has not served yet and because she's a loyalty whore) right after finding Arya and telling her about her family in Riverun. Dany leaves Tyrion in charge only half trusting him, so she can conquer the Yi Ti empire that the Dothraki were prophesied to conquer (because it was a Mongol (who are commonly associated with the Yi Ti), belief that they would unite China which in this series are the Yi Ti). While this is happening Euron has become the champion of the Asshai who are determined to save the world by burning it to the ground (GRRM did say their wasn't a strict a good or bad side so I think the Asshai will be defeated by the Dany, also it Jorah had said in the first book how the Dothraki believed the end of the world would come from Asshai).

Now the Marwyn conspiracy. When Marwyn was born he was never able to see his father because he was sent to the wall by the Targaryens. Vowing revenge for this Marwyn conspires with the faceless men who have always wanted to put an end to the Targaryen dynasty because a long time ago they were slaves to old Valyria. So Marwyn becomes archmaester and has the maesters conspire with their lords such as Rickard Stark to marry with southern families to overthrow the Targaryens. Marwyn also chooses the perfect time to plant seeds of rebellion; right after the Nine Penny King War. During this war lords like Rickard Stark, Steffon Baratheon, Edmure Tully, and Jon Arryn. Marwyn also attemps to have the three houses that actually weren't defeated by the Targaryens gain strength to defeat the Targaryen's; the Martels who were never actually conquered by the Targaryens, the Baratheons who had always been allied with thenTargaryens, and the Staks who never actually fought the Targaryens but instead bent the knee because of the Targaryens dragons. Marwyn attempts to have the Martels get more powerful by marrying into the powerful Lannister family but Tywin insults the Martels causing them to marry into the Targaryens preventing them from being able to rebel against the dynasty. The Staks are sort of the ace opin the hole though for Marwyn because the Steffon is still fairly close to Arys but with Lyanna being proposed to Robert because of the Maester Marwyn sent to Rickard to get the Starks to become allied with the only families that haven't full submitted to the Targaryens, the Tullies by having Brandon marry Cat, the Arryns by having Ned fostered with them, and the Baratheons by having Robert marry Lyanna. While this is occuring the faceless men are killing off other Targaryen suitors (how else would Areys and his family be the last of the Targaryens plus it mentioned in the books how the other Targaryens mysteriously died). And once Robert wins the rebellion Marwyn and the faceless men are successful and they have their revenge. They don't even finish off Dany and Viserys because they have become nothing but beggars. But now new Targaryens are rising such as Aegon, Dany, and Tyrion. So Marwyn decides he will raise a Red dragon of his own that matches his teeth to defeat the remaining Targaryens starting with Tyrion in Braavos. They get the egg from Euron who used it to pay an assassin to kill Balon, and Marwyn has the dragon raised by the faceless men in Braavos. He also hatches the egg the Targaryen way; with blood and fire. When Dany's Dragons were born they were born amidst fire and with the blood of a Khal which is basically a king. Marwyn will have his dragon born amidst fire and the he will get the King's blood from Edric Storm. Marwyn's dragon however will be sickly and disfigured because he will have it grow at an accelerated rate using magic.

Once the dragon is at its max power, Marwyn will arrive, like he had told Sam when he said he was going to advice Dany (really his plan is to kill her), but when he arrives at Braavos and discover she is not there but the dragon riding Tyrion Targaryen is, he rides the dragon to battle Tyrion (who is riding Raegal). This will be Tyrion's final battle against magic with his first one being against Stannis who was using magic to try and become king. Tyrion will defeat Marwyn but Marwyn also kills Tyrion. Thus having the first forging of the sword destroyed by water, and having a bitter sweet ending for our beloved dwarf.

The next forging of the sword was driven into the heart of a lion which caused it to shatter. The second forging represents the dragon of the south (Aegon). Aegon has married Arianne and stolen the Iron throne and he has also married Margery because of a history of poligamy with Targaryans. Quentyn has returned and is a threat to Aregon, he now actually has dragon blood from the Blackfyre woman giving him a strong claim on the throne because people are still not convinced that Aegon should be the king. Quentyn also has a dragon that he rides which gives evidence that he's now a dragon (even if he's a mummer dragon) and Voctarion's fleet of Iron born also are serving him, and overall Aegon is threatened by him. Quentyn's return causes civil war in Dorne and throughout the South of Westeros. An unlikely strong ally of Quentyn though is Jaime who has delivered Sansa to Lady Stoneheart and has taken over house Lannister (because it's his duty and because he was unknighted by Aegon). A bloody civil war occurs in the south with Arianne eventually killing Margery (because bitches be cray) Quentyn dies and Viserion flees to the North. And Jaime kills Aegon and takes the iron throne.

Another piece of evidence on why this war may occur is because of Oberyn. Oberyn had the wish getting revenge on Tywin and the Mountain and he got revenge on both but it cost him his life. I believe Doran is going to suffer a similar fate because what he wanted was for his daughter to marry a Targ and for Quentyn to fullfill his duty. He gets both but it causes his kingdom to be torn apart by civil war and for his children to fight bitterly for power.

This war would also be the cyvasse game between Illyrio and Varys, Varys supporting Aegon and Illyrio supporting Quentyn. Both individuals in the end lose though and Varys will may very well kill himself once he sees the horros Aegon commits while also watching his plan fall apart. Illyrio will most likely just support Dany after Quentyn is killed or he will kill himself as well. And Jon Con would most likely die either right after Aegon or some time before.

And now the Baelish conspiracy. I think Baelish has been working with the bank of Braavos this whole time. Evidence being how he's had a fairly close relationship with them for years now, and since he has a natural talent of being able to make money this would look very appealing to the bank. Baelish also has Braavosi blood which is another tie, now why would Martin have LF have that particular detail about him included? Because it's a foreshadow of him and the bank conspiring to take over the world. once Jaime is on throne and the kingdoms are a mess Baelish will make his move and try taking the throne from Jaime and getting Sansa back. The end result would either be Jaime winning or LF sitting on the throne marrying Sandpsa and then Sansa killing them both somehow (keep in mind I'm not super confident in this portion of the theory I just see it as a possibility, even if Petyr was conspiring with the Iron bank and got tens of thousands of sellwords across the narrow sea to take the throne, I'm not entirely sure if he'd be able to do it, Jaime might just throw him back into the sea.)

The third and final forging of the sword caused AA's (Raegar who Is reborn as his buddy's nephew Jon) love to die (Lyanna). The result is the third sword representing the dragon of the North (Lyanna and Raegar's son/ daughter who has been hiding with Howland Reed). If your wondering why their isn't a dragon of the East it's because all dragons came from the east originally. Stannis with his adopted son Gendry after defeating the Boltons goes to the Cragnomen to see if they would support him but instead he finds out Howland Reed has been raising the true heir to the throne. The Reed's give their support to Stannis only if he agrees to put Raegar's child on the throne (or marry Gendry who has been made a Baratheon). Stannis only wanted to be king because he felt like he had to to save the world but he comes to an agreement with Howland and begins his campaign in the Riverlands. Stannis eventually meets with Blackfish and they are about ready to fight each other when Jon comes in and tell them they need to go North to fight the White Walkers (fulfilling the Royne prophecy of a mystery hero who convinces the Old man of the river: Blackfish and the crab king: Stannis to fight to make peace and go North to save the world.

Dany defeats the Yi Ti empire (also fights them because they have slavery) and who's left of the Empire allies with her (it was also a good time to conquer them because of the outbreak of Greyscales in the empire). Euron then gives Dany a proper proposal saying they would burn the world together and in response Dany gathers all of her forces to fight the Asshai (including the Yi Ti which would also fulfill the Yi Ti prophecy of the world being saved by a woman with a monkey's tail the woman being Dany and the monkey's tail being the Yi Ti who are commonly associated with a monkey tail. She comes up victorious and Ser Barristan and Brien live but Jorah saves Dany by giving his life and he dies in her arms. Euron also rides an Asshai dragon against Dany and Drogon but is ultimately defeated. This would be the fire story line of the song of ice and fire but instead of ice fighting fire that everyone thought would happen fire fought fire. Dany then creates a new Valyrian empire that spans over all of Essos and Dany never returns to Weteros but proves she was the Princess that was promised by bringing peace to the continent. This would also make Dany the inverse of Aegon, Aegon was of the Valyrian empire born on Dragonstone who went West and conquered the seven kingdoms. Dany was of Westerosi royalty who was born on Dragonstone who goes east and creates a new Valurian empire.

In the North Jon and leads all of the heroes against the white walkers and from the farther North Bran has warged into an Ice dragon and is leading the children south to fight the White walker army. During the fighting Viserion flies in and Raegor's son/ daughter fullfills their destiny as a Targaryan and rides Viserion to melt the wall and causing boiling water to pour on the enemy. Jon then goes to negotiate with the Night king who (this may be stretch) turns out to be Waymor Royce (the night's watch member from the prologue who was turned into a wight). They do not come to terms of peace but Jon has an epic fight with him using Dawn. All of the soldiers of man begin their fight with the white walkers again and Jon ends up slaying the Night's King and saving the world.

Conclusion: After the war in the North Stannis takes Storms end and rules the Stormlands which is what he really wanted all along and has Gendry be his heir and he marries either Sansa or Arya to fulfill Roberts wish of having his house join Ned's. Arianne rules Dorne like she always wanted after Doran dies after watching his home torn apart by war, and the Sand Snakes that are left alive also help restore Dorne. The Reach has been torn apart by iron born and dragons and is ruled by Loras who is the only surviving member of the Tyrells. The Iron islands are ruled by Theon and he finds a bastard son of his that he raises as his heir. Jaime steps down from the iron throne and rules the Westerlands like his father wanted and takes a proper wife (who knows who). Blackfish rules the Riverlands because all the Freys are dead along with Edmure. The Vale is ruled by Robin Arryn who like Littlefinger had said proves to rise up from being a sickly little boy to becoming a strong man who continues on the Arryn name. Rickon becomes lord of Winterfell and is raised by Davos and Osha to become a good man like his father. Bran either gets to walk again and he gets to live his dream of being a knight and he becomes a member of the kinsguard/ dragon rider, or he become the new Bran the builder like Maester Luwin wanted. If Raegar's child turns out to be a boy he sits on the iron throne and marries either Sansa, or Val and begins a Stark/ Targaryen dynasty while Jon declares himself king in the North which would consist of the North, lands beyond the wall (the wall is gone now though), the Riverlands, the Vale and the iron islands. If Raegar's child turns out to be a girl then she will most likely marry Jon and they will rule all of the seven kingdoms together with Sam being the Grand Maester and Benjen would be the hand of the King (there would no longer be a night's watch).

Something else that I thought of but I don't really believe it myself is this, what if the Sun mentioned in Mirri Maz Duur said Drogo would come back when the sun rises in the west and sets in the east, what if the sun is Dany, the seas going dry is the Khalassar no longer needing to wander the sea of grass, and mountains being blown away by the wind being the barrier between the two parts of Essos (which are separated by mountains). When this occurs then Drogo will come back or somwthing like that maybe it would be more like after the new Valyrian empire is created by Dany and she saves the world from the asshai then she will like the sun, set and then she will get to be with Drogo again.

Also another theory I'm not completely confident in is if Ser Robert the Strong is a Frankenstein conjoining of Ser Gregor Clegane and Robert Baratheon (he is called Ser Robert after all). What this would mean I'm not entirely sure perhaps he would eventually regain Robert's mind and Robert would be able to go live the happy life he always wanted as a mercenary in the East.

In addition it's possible Aemon is alive and is intending to advise Dany and assist her in recreating the new Valyrian empire.

As I said I'm not very confident in these theories above but I think they are something worth thinking about.

So this is my bitter sweet ending. Bitter because of the deaths of beloved characters like Jorah and Tyrion, but sweet with the Starks having power in the end and the return of the Targaryen dynasty.

And finally to clarify what Moqorro said, the old dragon is Aemon, the young dragon is Raegar's child, the true dragon is Tyrion and the false dragon is Quentyn/ the Blackfyre daughter, the dragon of light is Dany, and the dragon of Darkness is Aegon.

Please give me feed back on my theory and what you guys think. Don't just throw it out the window entirely this is just theory but I do believe a lot of this is very possible and we might be seeing some of it.

I'm also going to continue editing this post as I learn and theorize other aspects of what is to come. Thank you for reading.

[Lady Blizzardborn]

Dany was not a slave at any point. By what logic do you say that Tyrion shouldn't even be alive? Or Robert Arryn? I'm having trouble seeing where you are getting some of your character interpretations. Outcasts yes, but some of your conclusions are off. Rhaegar was dead before the series started so I'm not sure you should count him in anything.

Brandon died months before Jon would have been conceived. So Brandon cannot be Jon's father. He could be Ned's son, but then there's no reason for Ned to keep the mother's name a secret if that's the case. Not having Targ features means nothing because not all Targs have the Targ features. Rhaegar's daughter Rhaenys took after her mother's side of the family. Jon took after his mother's side (Lyanna). There are too many hints in the text about Rhaegar and Lyanna being Jon's parents for it not to be the case. Being Ashara's son (with Brandon or Ned) would NOT make Jon the new Sword of the Morning because his name is not Dayne, and if legitimized it still wouldn't be Dayne. It also makes zero sense that Ned would risk his own marriage, and subject Jon to life as a resented outsider just to protect the honor of two dead people who couldn't keep their clothes on.

Even assuming Jon could be half Dayne, he cannot name a new Lord Commander of the Night's Watch. For one thing he doesn't get out over not having known who he was when he joined (GRRM has already stated this), and for another, they ELECT the LCs. Also...you do know that Benjen's been missing for two years, right? Even if Jon could appoint someone else as LC he wouldn't choose a guy who is missing and presumed dead.

A bit confused here. Are you saying that Stannis names Gendry his son, or Robert's son? The wording is a bit vague. Actually having Robert's son wouldn't strengthen Stannis' claim because people still don't have the knowledge that Baratheon genes always override Lannister genes. Yes, Gendry is some evidence, but not enough. However, he could name Gendry as next in the line of succession after Shireen, or bypass Shireen and name Gendry his heir, thus making people feel a bit better about what happens if Stannis dies. Only thing is, that Gendry wouldn't want to be heir to the throne, and has no knowledge of how to lead.

We don't know that Blackfish is in the Riverlands, and Cat is not herself. But by now she probably knows Littlefinger can't be trusted, and might also know that LF has been named Lord Paramount of the Riverlands and will thus be in no hurry to give the region back to House Tully. She does not, however, know that Sansa is in the Vale. I do like your idea of her sending Jaime to get Sansa though. LF knowing ANYTHING about Arya's whereabouts is a huge stretch. There is zero text to indicate this. Arya will get back to Westeros, but not like that. LF's interest in Sansa is that he thinks she's Cat 2.0. He'd never go for Arya who doesn't look a thing like her mother.

Theon will confess that Bran and Rickon are alive, but I don't think that will necessarily save him. As to promising the support of the Ironborn, Stannis isn't fool enough to think Theon can deliver. After the stress he's been through, Theon is not likely to recover fast enough to be of much help other than what he can provide with his mind. Euron isn't even on Pyke. He's off reaving in the Reach. I agree that Aeron is planning to take him out, and that would be awesome. Not sure Theon will ever shoot a bow again with those fingers missing, but if he can, I think you've got something there.

Sansa can't actually marry Harry the Heir. She's legally married to Tyrion. And she can't get an annulment without exposing her whereabouts which is dangerous because she's wanted as an accessory to regicide. Your ideas about Corbray bothering Sweetrobin are terribly disturbing. Sadly, that means it's a possibility, because disturbing things do happen in this series. But Corbray would have to be VERY drunk to risk it.

Agreed about Rickon. Maybe on the Skagosi declaring for Stannis. They probably have a good sense of the threat of the Others though, so I suppose that makes siding with the only king who takes the threat seriously makes sense.

Stannis is not going to be starting a Riverlands conquest. He's already been convinced that his fight is against the Others. The only reason he's even fighting to retake Winterfell is to get the Northmen on his side to help save the realm from the supernatural ice dudes who are coming to kill everyone.

Someone official-ish has commented that Clegane-bowl (Sandor vs Robert Strong) is not going to happen. Also I expect Cersei to win her trial, and emboldened by that success to make bigger and stupider mistakes that ensure her downfall. Not saying elements of your version couldn't happen, I just think it's headed a different direction, and she'll be dead before Aegon makes it to KL.

I don't think Aegon would kill innocent children. Unlike Dany he's been educated about what happened leading up to the rebellion, so he knows what kind of horror was done to the realm by his grandfather. He also is not likely to be throwing stones at kids for what their parents did, considering that his own father accidentally helped start a war that ripped the country in two. I also think that Tommen will die shortly after Margaery loses her trial, and Myrcella will be crowned and die before Aegon takes the capital city. The timeline doesn't fit for Aegon to kill them both either because Myrcella has to be crowned before she dies.

You are seriously mixed up on the valonqar. He's supposed to strangle Cersei to death, not kill her kids. And Arya is not male so it can't be her. Nor is Cersei likely to still be alive by the time Arya gets back to Westeros. Additionally the YMBQ takes what Cersei holds dear, but by the end she won't hold her own life dear, plus it's the valonqar who is supposed to kill her via strangulation.

Remember that the FM do not take charity cases. They kill for money. Arya taking out Qyburn just because "the gods are not mocked" is not good enough, especially considering that the FM probably don't know about what he's up to in KL. Also, who would pay money to kill an undead Stoneheart? By the way, have you read the sample chapters from TWoW? Might give you a slightly different idea about where Arya's story is headed. Again, why would the FM know about Stoneheart? She's killing Freys. Why would they care about that? She's made up for her own cheated death, and Beric's several returns already. The score is even. No motivation to take her out, in fact they should be partnering with the Red Priests so that they can kill targets multiple times and keep collecting the fees.

Brienne does not know that Arya's siblings are alive. Sansa, yes, but not the others. The boys aren't in the Riverlands. And we don't know that Brienne would recognize Arya. Sansa looks a lot like Cat did. Arya doesn't. Does Brienne know the Stark look?

Arya cannot finish her list and remain with the FM. They don't kill for free. If she wants to pursue that she'll have to leave the order.

If Margaery is still alive (I don't expect her to live, but she might) she would make an excellent match for Aegon. However, if he has a queen it makes no sense for Varys to want him to marry Sansa. And once again there are the problems of her being married to Tyrion, and her being a wanted criminal. Bigamy has been outlawed for quite a while, so it's not likely Aegon will get permission to take a second wife in the short time he'll be on the throne.

Tyrion can't prove he's a Targaryen when he doesn't even know it. And he's not the "true" dragon Moqorro predicted, because what Moqorro said was "dragons young and old, bright and dark, true and false, and you standing in the middle snarling" (paraphrased). Tyrion is clearly separated from the dragons. Why? Because he's not a legitimate Targaryen. He's a dragonseed, not a dragon.

By the time Moqorro gets there Quentyn will have been dead longer than Cat was. That makes the consequences of bringing him back far worse than getting Lady Stoneheart instead of Cat. And no one has come back more handsome than they were before. Also...I don't know why people never connect the armor like the sun to Jaime. His Lannister armor is gold. Sandor is not dead. Look up the Gravedigger Theory.

The Dusky woman is a Blackfyre? Ok, you're in crackpot territory here. It was one thing to say Jon doesn't look like a Targ (true) so he can't be one (false), but now you're saying someone who has a totally different skintone is one? I'm no expert on exactly what "dusky" means in these terms, but I certainly never thought it would be anything akin to the super pale skin of the Targaryens. My dictionary says the root of "dusk" is from dox, and Old English word for dark-colored. I know I don't have the best dictionary on earth, but it's not that wrong.

I'll come back later to go over the rest. Time for dinner.

[Lady Blizzardborn]

Back from dinner...

The forgings were not destroyed by the temperings. Tempering is a normal part of the forging process. The sword broke when AA tried to use it after the process was completed. You don't try using a sword in the middle of the process.

The heads of the dragon are supposed to be necessary for TDtwP to be able to save Westeros. Are you saying that Tyrion isn't one of the heads?

There really is NO evidence that Marwyn is descended from either Bloodraven or Shiera Seastar. Qyburn is using magic, Mirri Maz Duur used magic. Maggy the Frog may have. That doesn't mean any of them are related to Targaryens. The rumors about Bloodraven were likely untrue. And the rumors about Sheira could have been as well. Magic is frowned upon by Maesters and seemingly Westerosi society as a whole. So accusing BR and Sheira of practicing magic was akin to calling them evil. Marwyn's first name does not derive from Rivers which I might point out was no longer Bloodraven's surname after Aegon IV died. BR along with the other Great Bastards was legitimized, so his name is Brynden Targaryen. The word river comes from the Latin for bank, not for water. While mar in Latin does refer to sea, but not to rivers. Different roots. For a really good theory about a BR and Shiera descendant, check out S+B=M about Melony Seastar. If Marwyn was Bloodraven's son with Sheira, he'd be dead by now. Magic can unnaturally prolong a life, but there's no way Marwyn could get away with that level of magic in the the notoriously anti-magic citadel.

Tywin saying he wanted to throw Tyrion in the ocean is not a near-death thing. On the Blackwater he almost died as a result of an axe to the face, not drowning. On the Rhoyne, yes he did almost drown. But look at all the other characters who have had bad luck with water. Is Marwyn going to kill Davos too?

You've skipped how Tyrion is going to end up ruling anything for Dany. She's been warned not to trust him. Why would she put him in charge of the eastern part of an empire she doesn't have set up? The only city she rules is Meereen, and her goal is Westeros. Braavos, with their anti-slavery stance, would be a natural ally, but I don't see what benefit would be gained by them or by Dany by becoming allies. What does Dany get? She doesn't need their ships if she has the Ironborn. And what does Dany give them that they want? Is there anything that they want? The city can only hold so many people, so they can't take in all the former slaves. Braavos seems to pretty much stay out of things. I don't see them getting in on fighting unless the coming Long Night means frozen seas and thus death to their people.

If the now undead Quentyn is planning to rule over Dorne what about Arianne? She's in line ahead of Quent, and since Viserys is dead and you have Aegon marrying Margaery and Sansa, you've left nothing for Arianne to do.

Can we please not have Brienne fall in love with everybody? First Renly, then Jaime (according to theory) and now Dany? Of course if you meant she completely respects and admires the person Dany is and wants to support her as queen that's fine. But Brienne is not the type to jump ship. If she gave her word to fetch Arya from Braavos she's not going to pledge fealty to Dany until after she's completed her mission first.

Dany does NOT have time to conquer everyone before she gets to Westeros. She has time to unite the khals but not to go conquer China. By the way, the Dothraki are only partly based on the Mongols, and loosely at that. GRRM is not re-imagining history, he's just inspired by it.

Whoa! Euron is champion of Asshai? The Asshai'i from what we've seen are pretty big on religion (the whole R'hllor thing began there, and AAR is their prophecy) and Euron is a godless man, per Aeron's POV. The Asshai'i do not want to burn the world. They claim that the guy who save everyone from the Long Night was from their city. They did not say he saved everyone by burning the place down. You should really do some more reading into the histories of these places and the religions. The Dothraki believe that dragons are born when the moon and the sun meet in the sky. I don't think what the Dothraki believe has anything to do with what goes on in the series. GRRM makes a point of this with the ridiculous statements followed by everyone's favorite Dothraki catch-phrase "It is known."

Marwyn in this is as bad as the claims that Bloodraven is warging everyone. No one character has THAT much power in this series (except maybe LF or Varys, but I doubt even they are THAT good). And you really need to find a motivation for him that doesn't include him being a Targaryen, because he's probably not. By the way, Sheira fled Westeros. So he wouldn't have seen his father regardless. But he wouldn't blame the entire Targaryen dynasty when Daddy got punished for breaking the law! And with his magical abilities (we actually haven't seen that he has any) and knowledge of prophecy, you'd think he'd know that Daddy is actually up north training the last Greenseer so that Westeros doesn't change into one great big popsicle. At the time of Robert's Rebllion, Marwyn probably was not in a position to be directing anything.

The text explains that the Princess of Dorne and Joanna Lannister were good friends and wanted their children to get married. It makes no mention of maesters being involved.

No, there is not a mention in the books of a bunch of Targs "mysteriously" dying. There were quite a few who died in the fire at Summerhall. What exactly caused the fire is mysterious but the deaths are not. Several died in the Great Spring Sickness as well. Again, not mysterious. Aerys and his family are the last of the Targaryens just like Rickard and his are the last of the Starks. And just like several families throughout the history of Westeros died out entirely. It happens.

Where is Marwyn getting an egg with which to raise a dragon? And doesn't he have a problem with kinslaying? He can't get the egg from Euron. Euron already gave it to FM to kill Balon. The FM have it. How does Marwyn get it from the FM? Why would they give up a dragon egg? Especially now that they're hatching? How are the FM going to raise a dragon in a city that's surrounded by water? Where are they going to get the food? Where are they going to hide it? And how do they do this without upsetting the rest of Braavos who you say have sided with Dany? How the heck did he get Edric Storm? Nobody knows where Edric is! And if Marwyn is a Targ, then he's related to Edric. Again...kinslaying. Growing at an accelerated rate does not necessarily make for being sickly and deformed.

I'm a bit confused. Lightbringer is going to be forged by destroying Targaryens? What the heck is Lightbringer then? Are you saying that AAR is true and TDtwP is not? Because that's the only way you can kill off the all the heads of the dragon without dooming all of Westeros. You seem to be discounting sigils in this. Water would likely be Greyjoys, or another seafaring/coastal house. Lions are Lannisters. And Nissa would have to be some one or thing that means the most to the person doing the forging. Which brings up another question...who exactly is doing this forging?

When did Aegon marry Arianne? You had him married to Margaery and Sansa. Does he have a third wife? Blood from a Blackfyre does not give anyone a strong claim on the throne. Daemon was a legitimized bastard, so even if his line hadn't been barred from succession (and they were) he would have gone to the end of the line after all legitimate claimants. He never would have sat the throne. Quentyn has never been the mummer's dragon. Aegon is Varys' (the mummer) dragon. Aegon is the mummer's dragon. Quentyn never had to pretend anything (mumming) either because he has legitimate Targ ancestry.

Aegon let the man who killed his grandfather live? Did someone explain to him about the wildfire, because otherwise that's unlikely. Jaime doesn't WANT the Iron Throne. And he would not kill Rhaegar's son. The only reason he killed Aerys was because of the wildfire thing.

Oberyn's death is not evidence of anything with regard to Doran. They are opposite personalities.

There is no reason to suspect that Illyrio (who has been solidly behind Aegon this whole time) would support a Dornish kid he's never even met. I don't see Varys killing himself. Illyrio maybe, if all of his plans go down the drain. But Varys has spent too much time surviving to take that road. If Aegon does commit any horrors, Varys will take him out himself. It would be rather poetic, in a tragic way, for Varys' perfect king to have the Targaryen madness and Varys have to take him out for the good of the realm.

Petyr and the Iron Bank are linked. That much I agree on. But they aren't trying to take over the world. Westeros, maybe, but not the world. And LF does NOT want the Iron Throne. He just wants to be the power behind it. I don't expect him to make it out of TWoW alive, but since your theory has diverged so far from what I think is likely, I can't really say whether I expect him to be dead by this point in the story or not.

Rhaegar was reborn as whose buddy's nephew Jon? Rhaegar wasn't buddies with Ned. Rhaegar was not Azor Ahai. Azor Ahai, if he lived at all, lived several thousand years ago...during the Long Night. Remember the Others haven't been around for so long that most people don't believe in them anymore.

I do think Stannis would back off in the face of a Targ claimant to the throne, but Jon coming in at this point to tell him about the White Walkers is redundant. Stannis has known about the White Walkers since ASoS. That's why he went to the Wall. That's why he's planning to fight Ramsay/Roose. The whole thing for Stannis now is about saving the kingdom, not taking the throne. Stannis is not the crab king. There are no crabs in his story. Davos, is the son of a crabber though. I do kind of like Blackfish as the Old Man of the River.

Where is JonCon's greyscale plague in your theory, by the way? You haven't mentioned that at all.

Okay, now I have to ask if this whole thing is you trolling. Because we already have the author's word that both Dany and Tyrion will be heading back to Westeros in TWoW. You have her never going home. You also have Tyrion dying in Braavos. Do you not keep up with the SSM's and the news about the series?

Serious crackpot. Waymar Royce as Night's King? If there is a current Night's King, it's going to be someone we know, not a minor character from the prologue of book one.

Of all the Tyrells you have Loras as the survivor? The kid can fight, but he's hardly the most able to rule. Not to mention that his odds of continuing the line are really low. Why did you kill off Willas, who by all accounts would make a fine lord? And why would Loras Tyrell be accepted by the Reachmen as their liege lord after the rest of the family is gone? Why not choose someone who has heirs, or maybe some actual administrative assistance?

Theon's bastard by that captain's daughter is a definite possibility. But the Ironborn don't go by genetics. Asha could end up ruling them, or the Reader, or any number of others.

Why do you have Davos and Osha raising Rickon? Davos has a wife and three sons (unless they all died), and neither he nor Osha can teach Rickon half of what he needs to know to be Lord of Winterfell. With help they could, but their knowledge is incomplete if it's just the two of them.

Bran is not going to walk again. This is not a fairytale. Bloodraven said he won't walk again. Being another Bran the Builder works.

Val would not agree to being queen of Westeros. Jon would not declare himself King in the North (he would insist Rickon take that title). You still haven't explained how Benjen got back.

MMD's statement was not a prophecy at the time however...the sun's sun is Quentyn. He rose in the west (born in Westeros) and set in the east (died in Essos). The sea going dry is the grass in the Dothraki sea dying because of winter coming. The mountains blowing in the wind could very well refer to the destruction of the pyramids in Meereen. The part about baring a living child is that MMD did not expect Dany to have a chance to do that. She was basically saying Dany and Drogo will NEVER be together again. However, it's possible that Dany will die giving birth to a living child and be reunited with Drogo that way.

No on Ser Robert Strong. The mind is not coming back, and we don't know that Robert's head is on him. Per Bran's dream there may be no head. When the visor was raised on the one knight, there was only darkness inside, no head.

Aemon is dead. Seriously? He was sitting in a barrel of alcohol last we knew, and he was 100+ years old.

Moqorro's dragons. Young and old - Jon/Aegon and Aemon. Bright and dark - Brightflame (Varys) and Blackfyre (Aegon/?). True and false - Dany and ?

True and false could refer to trustworthiness. And Dany herself could be the false one if she learns that she can't trust herself to do what's right or best.

Basically I think most of this is wrong. Too much of it depends on certain things (like Marwyn being BR's kid) for which there really isn't any evidence. But you do have some really nice elements here, and some good thoughts.

[B-rad]

Wow it's going to take longer to respond to you then it took for me to right the whole theory. Ok Dany was sold to a sadistic horse lord for an army by her brother in the very beginning her future didn't seem that promising at that point. Tyrion is dwarf if was born into a peasant family even the Grejoy family for that matter he would've been left out in the open to die during hose times because he was a dwarf. And Robin is a sick little kid who maesters believe aren't going to last very long who also spent his whole being a mamas boy instead of training to be strong like his father.

As for Jon's parentage I think I've been able to genetically prove that he's not Rhaegar's son. Jon has grey eyes. Arya was the only true born child of Ned and cat that had grey eyes so it can be deduced that grey eyes are a recessive trait. If you back onto the lineage of the Targaryens you would see that almost all of them have purple eyes (except for Shiera and Bloodraven but their eye colors were mutations) so it can be assumed that purple eyes is a dominant trait. Both Rhaegar's parents had purple eyes so his allels would be PP Lyanna had grey eyes which I've already said is a recessive trait, so in other words because of this there would be a 100% chance that Rhaegar and Lyanna's kid would have purple eyes but Jon has grey eyes. If Bradon and Ashara had conceived of Jon when Brandon went to Kingslanding to call Rhaegar out, then the baby they would have would most likely have Jon's eyes because the Dayne purple eys I don't think is a dominant trait if you look at past Daynes so the eyes of their kid would have a chance of being grey like Jon Snows. Also Ned never named one of his kids after Lyanna, maybe it's because he and Howland named her daughter she had Rhaegar Lyanna and it would make sense for this girl to be raised with Holand where she would never get discovered. Also when I said Rhaegar was buddies with Jon's uncle I meant Arthur not Ned.

Stannis's plan with Gendry would be to have him marry Shireen so the Baratheon line would continue, and Stannis would teach Gendry how to rule properly. Also Stannis is the crab King not because he's related to crabs banner wise but because he has the personality of a crab. He would also try invading the Roverlands for more men and to kill the Freys to appease his Northern allies even more. Also the Freys would be going after Stannnis if he kills the Boltons and a lot of Frey forces that are up North.

About Arianne marrying Argon that was my mistake, I had written this theory a while back and posted it with a few changes like Sansa marrying Aegon, also she could be married to Harry under the disguise of Alayne and once Petyr reveals who she is after Harry dies I'm pretty sure she would still get the inheritance that comes with it. But anyway I ought at first Aegon would marry Arianne and Margery (defying his advisors which he already done by invading early), and then Quentyn would rule Dorne, Aegon would see him as a threat because he has quite an army with him and he's riding a dragon. Also I had always kind of seen a war happening between Arianne and Quentyn.

About Dany and Tyrion returning to Westeros I honestly had no idea that had been confirmed but now that I know I will edit this whole theory to make it much more likely.

Jaime also might go to Braavos with Brienne (and Petyr would keep tabs on Arya for political reasons in case Sansa dies) so he'd be able to identify Arya and what I meant by Brienne falling in love Dany I meant falling in love NOT IN A SEXUAL WAY more just stars trucked with who she is and what she represents.

The Marwyn thing I realize was a stretch but he might have a vendetta with the Targs if his mother fled with him to Essos out of fear of what they might do with the son of a traitor and they were forced to live a pretty terrible life it would make much more sense for Marwyn to want the dynasty overthrown then.

When I said Loras takes over highgarden I hadn't really know as much about his brothers but now that I do I kind of want Willa's to be the one who rules, he seems to be the best fit.

And for Petyr invading Westeros I sort of see that that's kind of dumb now but I still think he and the bank have been conspiring together since the beginning, the endgame? I have no idea.

And for Benjen coming back, someone in the nights watch said Benjen knew the Haunted woods better then anyone, so how he could be surviving out there, and he along with some wildinlings or some other force save the nights watch group and wildlings that were fighting white walker not far from the haunted woods and come back to the wall. How Benjen would survive out there exactly I have no idea honestly I have no idea how people could survive a month over the wall. Maybe Bloodraven saved Benjen somehow or something. And I was just trying to be brief with Jon naming Benjen lord commander obviously eye would be a voting process however Benjen would be the obvious choice one he's a ranger and the lord commander is usuually a picked from the ranger class and he's a Stark, and he has a ton of experience.

Why Braavos and Dnay would ally would be because Braavos likes money and Dany has quite a it and is going to be getting a lot more. And no Dany doesn't have ships if you read the theory you would've noticed that the Greyjoys are fighting with Quentyn now.

I did mention Jon Con I said he will probably die after she sees what a monster Aegon turned out to be because he go the Targ madness.

For Oberyn and Doran I linked them because too think they are going to share a similar fat because they are both Martells. The Starks have taken on the roles of Tragic heroes with Ned's fatal quality being his mercy, Rob's tragic mistake being marrying the Westerling girl, and Jon's "fatal" mistake being his loyalty. I think the Martells are going to have a tragic storyline where they get what they want but at huge cost. Oberyn technically got everything he came to Kingslanding for, his action brought on the death of the mountain, Tywin and now Dorne is readying for war, but the price? His life. I think Doran will share a similar fate, his son will bring honor to his house, and Arianne too but they're bitter rivalry will tear his kingdom apart.

And for Quentyn coming back more handsome. Ok when Neric was revived he came back with no one sacrificing their life for him, he was just brought back. When Cat was brought back, she was revived by being given Beric's chipped away life which was almost the equivelant of giving your friend the leftovers of your sandwitch. Quentyn though would be revived theough the sacrifice of a young girl with Valyrian blood (I know her skin tone doesn't neccesarily match with other Targs, but the Blackfyres have been around for a while now and their integration with Essosi must of caused a lot of the traditional Targ features to become lost, I mean the last male Blackfyre had a head growing out of his neck, very unattractive and Targs are almost always considered attractive). So if Quentyn was revived with this sacrifice and with Moqorro conducting the process (we can also assume he's much better at priest stuff then Thoros), then I believe it's plausible that not only would Quentyn come back, but come back better.

Arya taking out Quyburn could be part of the training. I mean he is insulting the God of death with his practices and the FM serve th God of death so it would seem like good practice to send Arya after a sadistic old man in one of the most populated cities in the world. And for Stoneheart, it would be the final test.

And for Theon I might change where his story goes in my updated theory.

So all in all thank you for reading I know it could've been easy and thanks for the extemsive feedback.