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The Fisher Queens were originaly from Sothoryos (Dawn age in Essos Part 1)


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This is gonna be a three part theory on what the fuck happened in dawn age. I broke it down in parts, bc otherwise it would be huge, but I am gonna upload them at the same time, so ,if you're interested, grab your tinfoil hat and lets dive.

Ok, before everything I want to talk abou the geography of Essos, before the breaking of the arm of Dorne.

First the maps:

  • We know about a great inland sea, that only the 3 great lakes remain, but to me that seems a litle bit off. This whole area looks and sounds like the great plains , if this is the case then the inland sea was more similar to Western Interior Seaway or the Baltic sea, a large inland body of water conected with the open sea, which like Baltic was most likely brackish, with the parts close to the three great lakes and Sarn, being really close to fresh water.
  • Another area that probably was really different, it's the Thousand Isles, that 99% was an extension of the plains of the Jogos Nhai. Thus, an area close to the sea level at the time, that was drowned ,almost, whole when the sea level went up.
  • Leng, Great Moraq, Lorath and Ib were connected to the mainland, since we can sea the rest of the Bones in both Ib and Great Moraq. Leng is realy close already and considering how much the sea level went up it was most likely connected. About Lorath, we have mazes in mainland Essos south of the islands, so it was connected too.
  • And lastly, looking at the map we can see, that Great Moraq was, also, connected with Sothoryos.

In conclusion, instead of the present map, we have a map that looks somewhat like this (Blue:Fisher, Red:Dawn ,Purple:conjoined. More in the next parts about these) ,obviously with alterntions, but geographicaly and geologicaly it makes sense to look close to this. I know that it looks weird and much different, but hear me out, with the natural events that we know happened and the current state and climate of these areas, the whole planetos would be different, like earth was. The biggest event we know happened, it's the breaking of the Arm of Dorne, that happened before the long night. Two huge bodies of water with big temperature difference met and obviously the ocean currents changed drastically, leading to changes in the climate and in geography. That is why we have water drowning places, that were land and the opposite, in addition in many places desserts started to form over time etc etc.

I have add land in most of the islands and mainland, with the exeption of the isle of Whips and the Manticore Isles, since these islands probably were formed after from underwater volcanos that are in the same arc with Marahai (at least their size, place and formation hint to that), another volcanic islands that got its caldera after.

Now, to the first of the 2 big civilizations, the Fisher Queens:

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"At the Citadel of Oldtown and other centers of learning in the west, maesters regard these tales of the Great Empire and its fall as legend, not history, yet none doubt that the YiTish civilization is ancient, mayhap even contemporary with the realms of the Fisher Queens beside the Silver Sea."

"From such we know of the Fisher Queens, who ruled the lands adjoining the Silver Sea—the great inland sea at the heart of the grasslands—from a floating palace that made its way endlessly around its shores."

"The Fisher Queens were wise and benevolent and favored of the gods, we are told, and kings and lords and wise men sought the floating palace for their counsel. Beyond their domains, however, other peoples rose and fell and fought, struggling for a place in the sun...We hear as well of the lost city Lyber, where acolytes of a spider goddess and a serpent god fought an endless, bloody war. "

 

So, a magical matriarchal seafaring society. And I'm saying seafaring, because I believe that the floating palaces were big ships and not crannogs. We have, already, seen in the books characters from Qarth referring to their ships as palaces, they probably had some (crannog or not) settlements around the shores, but it was not a Greywater Watch society, they were seafarers explorers and merchants.That been said, if they were as powerfull as people say, then they most definitely had bigger cities and a place to call home. And we have the perfect place for it, northern Sothoryos (the blue circles in the map, are places that the fisher queens were, the rest, would be discussed in the next part).

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"Maesters and other scholars alike have puzzled over the greatest of the engimas of Sothoryos, the ancient city of Yeen. A ruin older than time, built of oily black stone, in massive blocks so heavy that it would require a dozen elephants to move them, Yeen has remained a desolation for many thousands of years, yet the jungle that surrounds it on every side has scarce touched it. (“A city so evil that even the jungle will not enter, ” Nymeria is supposed to have said when she laid eyes on it, if the tales are true). Every attempt to rebuild or resettle Yeen has ended in horror."

"Tales of lizard men, lost cities... "

"...to the cyclopean ruins of Yeen, haunt of ghouls and spiders."

"Ruins found upon the Isle of Tears, the Isle of Toads, and Ax Island hint at some ancient civilization, but little is now known of these vanished men of the Dawn Age."

"On the Isle of Toads can be found an ancient idol, a greasy black stone crudely carved into the semblance of a gigantic toad of malignant aspect, some forty feet high. The people of this isle are believed by some to be descended from those who carved the Toad Stone, for there is an unpleasant fishlike aspect to their faces, and many have webbed hands and feet. If so, they are the sole surviving remnant of this forgotten race."

 

So, we have a fishy huge ancient civilization there, a place with easy entrance to the inland sea. A civiliazation that was probably as big as tGEotD and their time of reign overlaped. Along with their origin area they probably had bigger settlements in strategic points. Lorath and Qarth were their first settlments, I believe, with Qarth preceded colony in Lorath. Whatching the mazes in Lorath and tHotU, we see the same stracture.

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" Sprawling constructs of bewildering complexity, made from blocks of hewn stone, the mazemakers’ constructions are scattered across the isles—and one, badly overgrown and sunk deep into the earth, has been found on Essos proper, on the peninsula south of Lorath. Lorassyon, the second largest of the Lorath isles, is home to a vast maze that fills more than three-quarters of the surface area of the island and includes four levels beneath the ground, with some passages descending five hundred feet."

"Dany had expected the House of the Undying Ones to be the most splendid of all, but she emerged from her palanquin to behold a grey and ancient ruin. Long and low, without towers or windows, it coiled like a stone serpent... "

" If you should come upon a stairwell, climb. Never go down*, and never take any door but the first door to your right."

"Leaving and coming, it is the same. Always up. Always the door to your right. Other doors may open to you."

[" When they reached the door—a tall oval mouth, set in a wall fashioned in the likeness of a human face--", this is here,bc it looks like castle black and if anyone has ideas, shoot.]

"The long hall went on and on and on, with endless doors to her left and only torches to her right. She ran past more doors than she could count, closed doors and open ones, doors of wood and doors of iron, carved doors and plain ones, doors with pulls and doors with locks and doors with knockers"

"Beyond loomed a cavernous stone hall, the largest she had ever seen. "

 

So, we see that tHotU is a maze,an ancient one at that. And as the followers of Boash closed their eyes to see the truth, Danny took the shade.

And this is where Leng comes to play. Mazemakers were really tall, but not as tall as giants, so somewhere between 8-9ft. The thing is we already have 8ft people, in the present timeline, people that have a woman leader and they are in a place with underground mazes and ruins.

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"There are queer ruins in the depths of the island’s jungle: massive buildings, long fallen, and so overgrown that rubble remains above the surface … but underground, we are told, endless labyrinths of tunnels lead to vast chambers, and carved steps descend hundreds of feet into the earth."

"The native Lengii are perhaps the tallest of all the known races of mankind, with many men amongst them reaching seven feet in height, and some as tall as eight."

 

If modern day Lengi have been mixed with other people, even a little bit, they were proabablu 8ft for sure an maybe a little bit taller.They ,only, have the bones, bones of 8-9ft people, obliously, they thought them part giants. Another clue is the Tall Men:

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"Long of limb and brown of skin they were, like the Zoqora, though their hair and eyes were black as night. Warriors, sorcerers, and scholars, they traced their descent to the hero king they called Huzhor Amai (the Amazing), born of the last of the Fisher Queens*, who took to wife the daughters of the greatest lords and kings of the Gipps, the Cymmeri, and the Zoqora, binding all three peoples to his rule."

" Long-legged and slender, with flesh the color of oiled teak, they have large golden eyes"

 

Whith the exeption of the eyes, sound pretty similar, but again small alternations are normal, because they were mixed with other people around them. But if jade sea was not connected with the summer sea, why were they there? In lands that were part of tGEotD. And it's not the place inside Dawn's realm that is close to these descriptions, there is also Nefer:

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"Nefer, chief city of the kingdom of N’ghai, hemmed in by towering chalk cliffs and perpetually shrouded in fog. When seen from the harbor, Nefer appears to be no more than a small town, but it is said that nine-tenths of the city is beneath the ground. For that reason, travelers call Nefer the Secret City. By any name, the city enjoys a sinister reputation as a haunt of necromancers and torturers."

This is where we pass to parts 2 and3.

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