C S Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Nice work drawing them all into this thread, Bale. Now, release the lions!Go ahead. I'm sure Tormund is ready for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormund Ukrainesbane Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Go ahead. I'm sure Tormund is ready for them.http://i.imgur.com/6e8m6.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageGuy Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Out of curiosity, are there similar prohibitions against violence in other religions? I can think of the Wiccan rede, any others?I can't articulate why this bothers me but it does. It's like living in perpetual unworthiness.That's the heart of original sin. No one is worthy. It's a big part of most Christian denominations' dogma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balefont Posted March 23, 2011 Author Share Posted March 23, 2011 That's the heart of original sin. No one is worthy. It's a big part of most Christian denominations' dogma.Well I say Fuck. That. Shit.It's bad enough my favorite beer claims I'm not worthy, I don't need to make up more ways to feel unworthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerraPrime Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Well I say Fuck. That. Shit.:lol:That's one reason why I reject all Abrahamic faiths.I say, this piss-poor excuse of a god is not worth of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balefont Posted March 23, 2011 Author Share Posted March 23, 2011 :lol:That's one reason why I reject all Abrahamic faiths.I say, this piss-poor excuse of a god is not worth of me.Indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormund Ukrainesbane Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Yeah Christians! Now that we've had a discussion reconciling honest questions with honest answers it's time to shit on your faith! Umbrellas are available in the lobby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerraPrime Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Re: Average GuyI believe that the major strains of buddhism all embrace pacifism. In fact, most of them are vegetarians because they consider killing animals to be unjustifiable. And just to make Tormund happy, I'd say that this is why I cannot be a buddhist. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balefont Posted March 23, 2011 Author Share Posted March 23, 2011 Oh Terra, ur jus so darn lvl headed. (I can't bring myself to type 'lmao' even in jest.)But seriously, Tormund, how is it we are now "shitting on your faith" by simply not agreeing to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactus Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Re: Average GuyI believe that the major strains of buddhism all embrace pacifism. In fact, most of them are vegetarians because they consider killing animals to be unjustifiable. And just to make Tormund happy, I'd say that this is why I cannot be a buddhist. :PWell, they do to about the same extent christianity did. Those warrior monks don't just came out of nowhere :PJainism would be another one, btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerraPrime Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Well, they do to about the same extent christianity did. Those warrior monks don't just came out of nowhere :PSilly person, those kung-fu moves are strictly for health and fitness purposes. I swear!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactus Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Silly person, those kung-fu moves are strictly for health and fitness purposes. I swear!!I was actually thinking of The other warrior monks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormund Ukrainesbane Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 But seriously, Tormund, how is it we are now "shitting on your faith" by simply not agreeing to it? ...Well I say Fuck. That. Shit.I say, this piss-poor excuse of a god is not worth of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageGuy Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 It's bad enough my favorite beer claims I'm not worthy, I don't need to make up more ways to feel unworthy.FWIW, a couple denominations don't go for it. Though they've never explained to my own satisfaction why the Messianic sacrifice was necessary in that case. And even a lot of the ones that do subscribe to original sin choose to focus more on the "good news" that it doesn't matter if you're worthy rather than harping on unworthiness. But I'm an atheist most of the time nowadays, and I'm starting to feel like I'm preaching, so I'll leave it at that.I believe that the major strains of buddhism all embrace pacifism. In fact, most of them are vegetarians because they consider killing animals to be unjustifiable. And just to make Tormund happy, I'd say that this is why I cannot be a buddhist. :PI can't believe I skipped over Buddhism. In my head I was thinking, "Judaism? Wiped out an entire nation, so probably not. Islam? Mohammed led armies, probably not. Hinduism had a warrior caste. Wicca kind of fits... uh, Zoroastrianism?" before heading off into classical religions and random tiny religions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dornish Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 @ Tormund: Do you really think that all beliefs someone chooses to call religion are automatically worthy of respect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormund Ukrainesbane Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 @ Tormund: Do you really think that all beliefs someone chooses to call religion are automatically worthy of respect? Pretty much, yeah. Even if they are demonstrably false, most folks probably have good (to them) reasons for believing in them. I have a family member who is into neo-paganism and is convinced as of late that he is descended from vikings (he isn't) and currently believes in Odin and Thor. Clearly this is complete nonsense (especially since it was just last year that he worshipped the Earth and used astrology instead of casting runes), but it's important to him, and I get that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactus Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Pretty much, yeah. Even if they are demonstrably false, most folks probably have good (to them) reasons for believing in them. I have a family member who is into neo-paganism and is convinced as of late that he is descended from vikings (he isn't) and currently believes in Odin and Thor. Clearly this is complete nonsense (especially since it was just last year that he worshipped the Earth and used astrology instead of casting runes), but it's important to him, and I get that.Eh, I'd say your friend has decent odds of being descended from vikings just from random genetics. An infinitely small drop, probably, but then again, he's probably related to Genghis Khan as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dornish Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Pretty much, yeah. Even if they are demonstrably false, most folks probably have good (to them) reasons for believing in them. I have a family member who is into neo-paganism and is convinced as of late that he is descended from vikings (he isn't) and currently believes in Odin and Thor. Clearly this is complete nonsense (especially since it was just last year that he worshipped the Earth and used astrology instead of casting runes), but it's important to him, and I get that.Great, it's important to him, he's still wrong. His wrongness is not in any way changed by the fervency of his belief. Just as your faith does not change the fact that I find most Christian dogmas quite offensive. Worthy ideas stand up to scrutiny on their own merit and don't need protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormund Ukrainesbane Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Great, it's important to him, he's still wrong. His wrongness is not in any way changed by the fervency of his belief. Just as your faith does not change the fact that I find most Christian dogmas quite offensive. Worthy ideas stand up to scrutiny on their own merit and don't need protection. What does being wrong have to do with respect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balefont Posted March 24, 2011 Author Share Posted March 24, 2011 Tormund, so my dismissal of your faith for my own reasons is an act of disrespect to your faith?(Not to speak for Terra, but if I were him, I'd not beat around the bush in dismissing a faith that didn't accept me for who I was.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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