jamesellaby Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I've written a piece about Joffrey for the Huffington Post, check it out if you'd like http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/../../james-ellaby/is-game-of-thrones-joffrey-tvs-most-vile-character_b_1555945.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daoloth Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 How about the legal trick to make Joffrey more vile than his mother since according to unwritten politically correct canon of the show no woman can truly be evil.Joffrey is forced on us as a sadistic psycho because it would be unthinkable for Lena Headey to play a proper villain. Was it her wish? Her agents? Or perhaps someone elses... in any way it does not work. Selfish, arrogant and vain Joffrey at the beginning of season 1 was ok. What we get now is simply atrocious.Cersei is such an interesting character - an overly ambitious woman in a hostile world that gets caught in her own paranoid web. To see her properly batsh*t crazy in the end would be such a treat and probably the best performance for any actor in the show...or tv ever? I cant understand why Headey would not insist on that. She won the lottery by playing Cersei. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodGuyA Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 It's a little thing called character progression. If she began crazy and kept crazy, then there would never be any evolution. Remember PW and how hysterical she was at that juncture, that is her turning point. With no turning point, she isn't interesting, just paranoid to a point where it becomes unbelievable she wasn't caught sooner. You see this subtle change beginning with her drunken state at Episode 9, a great moment in irony of her character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daoloth Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 There is no progression unless you really want to see it as many people do. Cersei was never crazy in the beginning she seemed wicked - then through pov we get to see that she is simply ruthlessly ambitious and repressed by her father. She gets crazy when she is left alone in Kings Landing suddenly with enemies around her. What we see in a show is a unlikable character in season 1 which perfectly explains Joffreys disgusting personality then suddenly with second season we get a genler take on Cersei but not so much by getting to know some of her own backstory but simply by toning her down a bit with Joffrey simultaneously becoming some kind of psychotic monster. When Ned spoke with Cersei in 1st season her story about how Robert humiliated her did much more to portray her in somewhat better light than clumsy writing in season 2. And drunken Cersei isnt irony - its Martin pulling her strings right the way she was meant to be. This is no progression to me. This is script meddling for whatever reason and I am curious about what it could be. There are many explanations and most of them are outside of the actual plot and in the production process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daoloth Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 And remind me please who is PW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartseverus Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 And remind me please who is PW?PW stands for Purple Wedding--Margaery's wedding to Joffrey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mediumjon Umber Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 And remind me please who is PW?Judging from GoodGuyA's post, I'd say it means... um... Plackwater?EDIT: Nevermind. :agree: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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