John W Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Is Dany aware that Robert's Rebellion didn't happen in a vacuum?Is she aware that Lyanna was supposedly abducted and that Rickard and Brandon, as well as others, were murdered without a trial?I know that Barristan Selmy is trying to educate her on some recent history but it seems that that part is getting left out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Red_Viper_of_Dorne Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 I'm pretty sure she doesn't. She wants to know the whole truth, but Selmy seems to lack the gut to tell her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetch me a block Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 She definitely knows that Rhaegar got hold of Lyana, as Dany mentions Rhaegar and his "Northern Girl". I'm not so certain about Rickard and Brandon though, but I doubt Viserys wouldn't have told her about it without some wicked Targaryen spin. Barristan should just man the fuck up and tell her that her father was a dick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wales338 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 I think she'd have to listen and realize that her family was at fault. I don't think shes ever going to be ready to do that so I'm doubting she knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Nan Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 No, she only knows the distorted version of events as told to her by Viserys. She sorta knows that Aerys was mad, but says that she isn't ready to hear the dirty details.We saw how she reacted when Barriston stood up for Ned Stark, so I'm guessing that if she hears how they were killed, she might think that the Starks deserved it for rebelling against Aerys. She holds everyone involved in the rebellion equally responsible for the wrongs that were done her family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWR Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 She'd know if she'd have crawled out from under Daario long enough to listen Barristan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Storm King Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 selmy keeps trying to tell her everything but she always says laterzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlQohoric Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Why should it matter to Dany at this point? Aerys, as mad as he was, was the rightful King. If a lordling comes to the capital threatening a Prince, what do you think will happen? Lord Rickard was given a trial (sort of). From Dany's viewpoint they were rebels (regardless of the reason) and she wants her father's throne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caras Galadhon Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Its really quite strange that she kept putting it off. As prideful as she is when it comes to telling herself that she is 'the blood of the dragon' you'd think she'd want to know the non-glamorized truth about her family A LOT SOONER than when she was finally willing to ask.*edited to prevent further baseless assumptions about what I do and don't maintain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasha Steelsong Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Goodness it seems like no one has a good memory for where Dany was in terms of being ready to hear the truth about her family. She actually asks Barristan to tell her even the ugly bits and they get interrupted by Hizdar and then she flies off on Drogon. So mentally she was ready but just didn't get the chance. No doubt that she was avoiding hearing about her family details prior to that, but she didn't even know the "Mad King" part until Barristan showed up in SOS and told her, so it isn't like she's been sitting on the knowledge that her family was crazy all her life or even for the durration of the book series. So given that she still only has Viserys' version of events, I'd say she does not know the details of Rickard and Brandon's deaths - and I'm not sure if Barristan does either (I honestly can't remember if he was witness to it or how far the details of their deaths spread). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggs Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Nah, I dont think she knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caras Galadhon Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Goodness it seems like no one has a good memory for where Dany was in terms of being ready to hear the truth about her family. She actually asks Barristan to tell her even the ugly bits and they get interrupted by Hizdar and then she flies off on Drogon. So mentally she was ready but just didn't get the chance. No doubt that she was avoiding hearing about her family details prior too that, but she didn't even know the "Mad King" part until Barristan showed up in SOS and told her, so it isn't like she's been sitting on the knowledge that her family was crazy all her life or even for the durration of the book series. So given that she still only has Viserys' version of events, I'd say she does not know the details of Rickard and Brandon's deaths - and I'm not sure if Barristan does either (I honestly can't remember if he was witness to it or how far the details of their deaths spread).She's had plenty of chances before taking off on Drogon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Storm King Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 She's had plenty of chances before taking off on Drogon.she was too busy with daario :smileysex: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreyKraken Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 She definitely doesn't know and if she does, she was told a different story of how and why the Mad King killed them.If she actually knew how and why they were killed, she would not think of the Starks with contempt or call Ned a traitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreyKraken Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Goodness it seems like no one has a good memory for where Dany was in terms of being ready to hear the truth about her family. She actually asks Barristan to tell her even the ugly bits and they get interrupted by Hizdar and then she flies off on Drogon. So mentally she was ready but just didn't get the chance. No doubt that she was avoiding hearing about her family details prior too that, but she didn't even know the "Mad King" part until Barristan showed up in SOS and told her, so it isn't like she's been sitting on the knowledge that her family was crazy all her life or even for the durration of the book series. So given that she still only has Viserys' version of events, I'd say she does not know the details of Rickard and Brandon's deaths - and I'm not sure if Barristan does either (I honestly can't remember if he was witness to it or how far the details of their deaths spread). Pretty sure he witnessed the trial since he was KG at the time and highly trusted by Aerys,so he was probably there just like Jaime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasha Steelsong Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 She's had plenty of chances before taking off on Drogon.Sigh. And I acknowledged those but that doesn't change that she changed her mind and had come to the point of wanting to hear the truth right before she got whisked away. Before the pit she did want Barristan tell her everything and Hizdar came in and interrupted, thus she did not have time from that point on to find out. Basically she was ready to hear the truth the day of the fighting pit, and events with Drogon intervened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Soprano Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 She doesn't know about any of the atrocities her father committed. Selmy has been trying to tell her ever since he met her, but she keeps putting it off. And even if she did, I don't think it would make much difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Man Has Said Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 She has a very faulty concept of a lot of things. In some ways she's a lot like Sansa, expecting things to come out the way they do in songs. If one were pressed to describe either of them in one word that word would be naive. But Dany's personality is better described in two words, the other being 'haughty.'Just look at how surprised she was to find that dragons will eat children when they're hungry. The girl needs a lesson or two in reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBastardofBluegrass Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Well Selmy is noble, he's hinted that there's more beneath the surface but he'll never have the audacity to tell Dany, "Your dad was bat-shit crazy." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caras Galadhon Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Sigh. And I acknowledged those but that doesn't change that she changed her mind and had come to the point of wanting to hear the truth right before she got whisked away. Before the pit she did want Barristan tell her everything and Hizdar came in and interrupted, thus she did not have time from that point on to find out. Basically she was ready to hear the truth the day of the fighting pit, and events with Drogon intervened.No need for the condescending sigh! I acknowledge that she did eventually ask. This doesn't change the fact that she spent quite a while choosing to be blissfully ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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