Brightstar_ Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I realise there are already a few threads on this, put people generally don't seem to think she works for Varys. However while rereading aFFC I noticed that Cersei mentions to Jaime that Taena has told her that Lady Olenna has a chest filled with old Highgarden coins from before the Conquest... which is exactly the sort of coin Qyburn found in Rugen's cell. Rugen who is commonly known to be one of Varys' "disguises". This fits perfectly with the plan we know Varys has from the epilogue of aDWD : sow discord between the Tyrell's and Cersei by playing on her paranoia, and thus weaken the realm for Aegon's arrival. Also it seems a very strange thing for Lady Taena to just casually mention to Cersei without any other intentions. It's also possible that Varys didn't put that coin there at all (though it would fit his plan perfectly if he did), but that Qyburn simply told Cersei that he found it there. Perhaps Qyburn is working for Varys too, along with Lady Taena. There is very little to suggest this, though you could make the argument that he did give Cersei a strong champion to defend her innocence in her coming trial. If she were to win that trial, she would probably rule again as regent (now that Kevan is dead), which again fits Varys' plans. I'm sorry if there is already a thread on this piece of information, I couldn't find one. Thoughts please. Edit : To the people that say she works for Dorne : if Taena is working for Dorne, how would she have known that an Old Highgarden coin had been found in the supposedly guilty goaler's cell? Did Varys inform someone from Dorne on this? That doesn't seem very likely. Did she just happen to mention Lady Olenna's chest filled with such old coins? Also highly unlikely IMO. And if you think that Varys somehow works together with Dorne to prepare for Aegon, well then in a way, Taena is working with/for Varys too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brightstar_ Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share Posted January 19, 2014 Does nobody care? Or is this already common knowledge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Beyond the Wall Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Regardless of Taena, I don't think Qyburn is in cahoots with Varys. The coin is suggestive though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghosts in winterfell Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I think there was a thread awhile back suggesting that both Qyburn & Taena were working for Varys. I don't think Qyburn being a spy is very likely, but it's pretty clear that Taena was working for everyone but Cersei. I do like the idea that Taena was on Vary's payroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnief Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I think there was a thread awhile back suggesting that both Qyburn & Taena were working for Varys. I don't think Qyburn being a spy is very likely, but it's pretty clear that Taena was working for everyone but Cersei. Qyborn-no. He's in thrall to the same dark powers, that Varys, despises. Taena, though, seems more than likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brightstar_ Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share Posted January 19, 2014 Regardless of Taena, I don't think Qyburn is in cahoots with Varys. The coin is suggestive though. Yea I don't really think Qyburn is working for anyone either, but I just put the possibility out there in case Varys didn't plant the coin because I hardly think such a suggestive coin would just be "lying there". But it was probably varys' doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanless Mace Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Taena is working for Dorne, I'm guessing. Varys doesn't need Taena, his whisperers have secret passageways etc. to overhear and observe. Planting a maid to woo and seduce Cersei just doesn't seem like Varys's style. There are more people doing nefarious things beynd LF and Varys, we shouldn't assume all evil doings fall back to one of those two. Thread here has more on Taena theories:http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/102292-how-will-taena-merryweather-betray-cersei/?hl=taena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brightstar_ Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share Posted January 19, 2014 Taena is working for Dorne, I'm guessing. Varys doesn't need Taena, his whisperers have secret passageways etc. to overhear and observe. Planting a maid to woo and seduce Cersei just doesn't seem like Varys's style. There are more people doing nefarious things beynd LF and Varys, we shouldn't assume all evil doings fall back to one of those two. I agree and I too thought it very strange for Varys to have someone like Taena working for him ; it's just not his style. But if Taena is working for Dorne, how would she have known that an Old Highgarden coin had been found in the supposedly guilty goaler's cell? Did Varys inform someone from Dorne on this? That doesn't seem very likely. Did she just happen to mention Lady Olenna's chest filled with such old coins? Also highly unlikely IMO. And if you think that Varys somehow works together with Dorne to prepare for Aegon, well then in a way, Taena is working with/for Varys too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FittleLinger Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I think that Taena works for the dornish, and that Qyburn is just a happy little Dr.Frankenstein in his lab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanless Mace Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 But if Taena is working for Dorne, how would she have known that an Old Highgarden coin had been found in the supposedly guilty goaler's cell?If indeed she is a spy, she may ( a ) have other spy resources giving her info; ( b ) be spying on someone else; or ( c ) wouldn't surprise me if Varys is wise to her and planted the info about the coin. I don't find this to be a compelling counter argument...yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light a wight tonight Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I get the impression that Taena is working for the Tyrells. She seems to slyly advocate for them when Cersei wants to take action against them. Since Taena is Cersei's BFF Cersei doesn't notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lulu_pix Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 What about Lf? it is suggested that Taena may have once been whore, and we all know Lf uses whores as his spies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sordelor Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 It seems plousible.Tough I don' t think Quyburn is working for Varys too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheButcherCrow Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 What about Lf? it is suggested that Taena may have once been whore, and we all know Lf uses whores as his spies. This is what I thought. In the books Varys tends to use children & subterfuge to learn what he needs to know. LF uses intermediaries to befriend his marks so he can manipulate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pod The Impaler Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I figure she is Dorne's friend in King's Landing. The Martells found out so easily what Cersei had planned for Trystane that I suspect Taena was the source.That may mean she is working with Varys to some degree.She's Myrish and so is Varys, so they may have a certain rapport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansa_Stark Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Varys isn't Myrish, he was born in Lys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirri Maz Durr Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I know it's very unlikely, but what if Taena was colluded with the High Sparrow (or warned him before the visit) and took Cersei right to the trap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illrede Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 She works for Varys; Varys gave information to Dorne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thucydides Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Qyburn isn't working for Varys, but he's likely being manipulated by him. Qyburn is working with Varys's "little birds" who are likely still under Varys's control, so that Qyburn only finds out what Varys wants him to know. And chances are that what Qyburn learns from them is fraught with half-trues and outright lies. Interesting point about Taena and Varys. I'd always just assumed that she was spying for the Tyrells, but there does seem to be a Dorne connection. If Teana worked for Varys, that would explain both, since Varys would feed information to both the Martells and the Tyrells as it suited him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mb2518 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I think it's Doran or LF. Perhaps Ros was killed on the show to make way for Taena? We know LF still has a source close to Cersei. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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