Prince Jon Targaryen

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  1. I wanted to get people's take on this. While reviewing Kings of Westeros on ASOIAF Wikia, I looked at all these titles various lords, petty Kings, and Targs used throughout the centuries. In this weeks GoT episode,tI reflected on the lack of styles and titles for the King in the North, Jon Snow (if you've seen in you'll know what I'm talking about). So I thought about the various titles that Jon Snow and Renly Baratheon may have used. Jon Snow: Let me get this straight, I believe there's power in simplicity, and Jon probably wouldn't accept most of these high-and-mighty titles. But this is just to imagine, so all kneel for Jon Snow, King in the North and of the Trident, Lord of Winter, the White Wolf, Shield of The Realm, and Protector of the Night's Watch. Renly is a fanciful prick who doesn't give a fig about actually being a king, he just wants to dress up like and be called one. I can't think of ones that make sense besides the originals, so all kneel for Renly Baratheon, King of the Andals, the Rhoynar, and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms, Protector of the Realm. Comment below with better ones!
  2. I wanted to get people's take on this. While reviewing Kings of Westeros on ASOIAF Wikia, I looked at all these titles various lords, petty Kings, and Targs used throughout the centuries. In this weeks GoT episode, there was a moment in which the viewers may have reflected on the lack of styles and titles for the King in the North, Jon Snow (if you've seen in you'll know what I'm talking about). So I thought about the various titles that Jon Snow and Renly Baratheon may have used. Jon Snow: Let me get this straight, I believe there's power in simplicity, and Jon probably wouldn't accept most of these high-and-mighty titles. But this is just to imagine, so all kneel for Jon Snow, King in the North and of the Trident, Lord of Winter, the White Wolf, Shield of The Realm, and Protector of the Night's Watch. Renly is a fanciful prick who doesn't give a fig about actually being a king, he just wants to dress up like and be called one. I can't think of ones that make sense besides the originals, so all kneel for Renly Baratheon, King of the Andals, the Rhoynar, and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms, Protector of the Realm.
  3. Did you copy this from the wiki or collect this together on your own? It's well written. At any rate, here's what I think: If Rhaegar had never went away with Lyanna, and assuming Aerys still came to the tourney, I would assume Rhaegar would still try to play the game of thrones, only on the down-low. I feel the most obvious move would be to bond with/win allegiance with Lord Tywin Lannister. Rhaegar already has the allegiance of House Martell, as he is married to Elia of Dorne. So those are two houses down, but I don't know where the other houses would place their allegiances. So that's why I don't know who would win. I know all the lords on the council who would oppose Aerys being removed are crownlands lords.
  4. Grand Meester Pycelle once wrote a letter saying that the divisions at court strongly resembled those immediately before the Dance of the Dragons. Some say that if Robert's Rebellion had never happened, Aerys would have eventually either disinherited Rhaegar or killed him. Let's assume Rhaegar does not make the dumb decision of crowning Lyanna queen of love and beauty and never kidnaps her. Do you think a civil war could have broken out between Rhaegar and Aerys anyways, and if so, what do you think would have happened?
  5. I was recently thinking about the dragons of old, why they fell, and exactly what their lives where like. Now, we know that damn near every dragon has a specified date of death or at least some description like "died after event x occurred". I was thinking about how comparatively, the dragons Dany has (of Essos) are probably a good deal more robust or healthy than any that might have been hatched from old Targ eggs. This is because these dragons had declined in health and stamina as a result of being bred and raised in the dragon pit. The dragons of Essos, to our knowledge, never received such treatment. But where were dragons like Balerion, Vhagar or Sunfyre kept at King's Landing? Where would Aegon have kept Balerion? These huge dragons needed some place to reside. I doubt any king or prince would want to be very far away from their dragon.
  6. I was recently thinking about the dragons of old, why they fell, and exactly what their lives where like. Now, we know that damn near every dragon has a specified date of death or at least some description like "died after event x occurred". I was thinking about how comparatively, the dragons Dany has (of Essos) are probably a good deal more robust or healthy than any that might have been hatched from old Targ eggs. This is because these dragons had declined in health and stamina as a result of being bred and raised in the dragon pit. The dragons of Essos, to our knowledge, never received such treatment. But where were dragons like Balerion, Vhagar or Sunfyre kept at King's Landing? Where would Aegon have kept BalerionThese huge dragons needed some place to reside. I doubt any king or prince would want to be very far away from their dragon.
  7. I was wondering, do the Kingsuard only ever guard the king? Can they be assigned to or guard a prince or princess or a member of the royal family?
  8. Hello all, new wiki user here. Apologies if this is not the appropriate place to post this. I have a certain mission of mine that I'd like to see through, but I find that I don't quite have the skill to accomplish it. I wish to add a personal arms section to a couple of characters' infoboxes, namely Aegon II and Rhaenyra Targaryen, and provide formal blazonry for another, Daemon I Blackfyre. I've done this so far to Rhaenyra, and updated Daemon's. These were easy (I just added the description of blazonry to Daemon, and copy and pasted said section into Rhaenyra's page and edited the text to reflect her personal heraldry.) However, this copy and pasting technique has not worked with Aegon II. When I do so, and add the appropriate information, it simply appears (in the preview) below the listing of his mother as Alicent Hightower, without the description (coat of arms, personal arms, etc) though I add it immediately before the "Books" row in the sandbox. What am I doing wrong, and how can I add this information? I very much hope I can be a productive member of this wiki, so I'd like to learn all I can. For whatever reason, I'm not able to post the pictures of the sandbox, preview, and templates I took
  9. No, that's pretty much what I was thinking about doing. Thanks Rhaenys!
  10. Everyone's talking about how Rhaegar should eventually overthrow Aerys. But how? he can't kill Aerys right out the gate, there's the Kingsguard to worry about. Here's what I would do if I were him: I've crunched the numbers and the Targs safely outnumber the rebels at the Trident. After Rhaegar kills Robert, he offers a truce to the surviving lords on one condition and they go along with it (***for reasons I discuss at the end of this post***). The truce is such: amnesty for all rebels, no killings, no murdering entire families, etc AS LONG AS these lords declare a "freeze" on Aerys as king, proclaiming he's unfit to be king and taking his power away for the time being AND CALL A GREAT COUNCIL. this way, they can decide what to do, with everyone, both rebels and loyalists. This eventually results in Rhaegar becoming king and everyone being relatively happy/not mad anymore. Rhaegar being a good person, and loved by the small folk, a lot of people are satisfied afterwards, although some (like Ned Stark) are still gonna hate the Targs forever. Rhaegar is not insane. He seems to be a decent guy and is said by some that he would have made a better king that Robert or Aerys (see Barrister Selmy). Ergo, I have half a mind to think that he would be a good king. He may do the following. -send a decent amount of rebel troops (or perhaps those without families) to the WALL. All sellswords he sends as well, any who wish to go join, and some wounded are sent as well. This well-needed bump in the numbers of the Night's watch is long over due. Less than a thousand men man the wall by 298 AC, so if Rhaegar sends a goodly amount to the Wall then they're well on their way to the pre-conquest levels of 10,000. -experiment with eggs like Aegon V? His sister Daenerys was able to, so maybe the gift could be with him too. Viserys isn't at Dragonstone and has a much better upbringing the the one he received on the one from Robert, so he could be fit to be with a dragon as well. Combine this with the whole "dragon has three heads" thing, ad the fact that Aemon thinks Daenerys has the potential to fulfill the prophecy, and Rhaegar, Viserys, and Daenerys, are your three heads! -the realm still has a lot of gold in its coffers (which was later squandered by Robert) so we're good there. Rhaegar is smart enough to handle that. The only thing I'm worried about is if anyone still listens to Aerys. However, I think that since most of the Kingsguard is friends with Rhaegar, or prefers him to Aerys, they would obey Rhaegar for the time being. ***Tully only cares about this mess because his daughters are married to rebels, Jon cares because Aerys wants the heads of his foster kids Robert and Ned, and Eddard hates both Rhaegar and Aerys, for kidnapping his sister and ordering his family, reactively. Robert was the only one who hated Rhaegar, and Stark does't have enough men to go solo if Arryn and Tully decide to give up . HE's outnumbered and forced to go along with it. With my number crunching I did, comparing this to the battle of Hastings, Starks forces would be easily obliterated by the remaining Targs.
  11. This begs, the question of who the regent/Protector of the Vale would be.
  12. I just want to get an account for the wiki, but I don't fully understand how to get one. I looked in the sub forum and it said to start a new topic with your desired username. It said there were 5 topics already in there but also that there were no posts. Help!
  13. I just want to get an account for the wiki, but I don't fully understand how to get one. I looked in the sub forum and it said to start a new topic with your desired username. It said there were 5 topics already in there but also that there were no posts. Help!
  14. What do you guys think would happen if Robert's Rebellion failed? I've already written down some thoughts... -Rhaegar goes home to King's Landing in triumph, but immediately gets to work in trying to depose his father. -Aerys orders the deaths of Jon Arryn, Ned Stark, and Hoster Tully. Aerys would probably be pissed at Tywin Lannister for not helping during the Rebellion. -The brothers or established heirs of the rebel lords take over (Stannis for Robert, Benjen for Ned, etc) but who for Jon Arryn??? Any other additions? I'd love to hear what other people think about this, I'm fascinated by alternate history and such.
  15. It is said by some that in 281 AC, Prince of Dragonstone Rhaegar Targaryen attempted to call a Great Council at Harrenhal by using the nameday tourney of Lord Whent's daughter as a cover. All the great lords of the realm would be there. However, King Aerys II Targaryen was advised by Varys, master of whispers, to attend and prevent this from taking place. He did so and Rhaegar was unable to convene said Council. Why, if Varys knew Aerys was mad, did Varys not withhold this advise and let Rhaegar remove Aerys? This probably have prevented the Rebellion because with Rhaegar as king, Aerys would not have been able to hold power, and abuse the realm as he did. Rhaegar even may not have crowned Lyanna Stark as Queen of Love and Beauty due to the work of assembling a Great Council being top priority. Varys claims to serve peace (indeed, this is what he tells Ned Stark) and seems to want a Targaryen on the throne (killing Kevan in the interest of continued misrule to allow Aegon VI to take power.)