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Northern lord taking a Wildling wife

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The ruler on the iron throne would clearly frown upon this and demand the wildling bend the knee.  That is really the key.  Will this wildling agree to bend the knee and uphold the king's laws. 

The matter would be different if it is a case of a noble woman marrying a wildling man.  The resistance would be fierce if said girl is set to inherit lands.  The marriage of the Karstark girl to a Thenn will be extremely unpopular.  Expect the nobility to resist and contest that marriage.  The Karstark lands will now belong to a wildling.  That's bad.  It is the worst PR move in the story.  It is worse PR than the red wedding because it has negative consequences for the future.  Nobody at the wall had the right to make such a decision that could affect all of Westeros.

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8 hours ago, Allardyce said:

The ruler on the iron throne would clearly frown upon this and demand the wildling bend the knee.  That is really the key.  Will this wildling agree to bend the knee and uphold the king's laws. 

The matter would be different if it is a case of a noble woman marrying a wildling man.  The resistance would be fierce if said girl is set to inherit lands.  The marriage of the Karstark girl to a Thenn will be extremely unpopular.  Expect the nobility to resist and contest that marriage.  The Karstark lands will now belong to a wildling.  That's bad.  It is the worst PR move in the story.  It is worse PR than the red wedding because it has negative consequences for the future.  Nobody at the wall had the right to make such a decision that could affect all of Westeros.

The Karstark lands will only fall to a wildling if Harrion Karstark dies. Some will no doubt be angry that a wildling married a young noble lady. However, if that wildling has a powerful army and respects Northern customs, then the outcry would be significantly diminished. 

As for the OP, a Stark ruler (Jon) marrying a wildling is a significant issue. Usually rulers keep their bannermen in line through marriage alliances. Marriages between Great Houses and regular Houses are used as a form of reward. If Jon uses these Houses to beat the Boltons and then marries a wildling after the fighting is done, those Houses with daughters available to be married would view it marriage as a grave insult. It would be similar to Robb Stark marrying Jeyne Westerling.

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7 hours ago, Winter's Cold said:

As for the OP, a Stark ruler (Jon) marrying a wildling is a significant issue. Usually rulers keep their bannermen in line through marriage alliances. Marriages between Great Houses and regular Houses are used as a form of reward. If Jon uses these Houses to beat the Boltons and then marries a wildling after the fighting is done, those Houses with daughters available to be married would view it marriage as a grave insult. It would be similar to Robb Stark marrying Jeyne Westerling.

Which is why Rickard Stark's motives are suspect.  Southron Ambitions.

 

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If a Northern Lord took a Wildling woman to wife, he could make it work as long as she was a clan chief's daughter. Marrying an "enemy", is common place in Westeros.  As long as you can justify it by claiming she's the Wildling equivalent of highborn, you'll be fine. I can't imagine any Lord marrying some random woman, a commoner. 

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