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More like George jr. He is such a silly man.

Best line of the episode. "Sit down Uncle."

Some vlogger I saw recently called Arya's ending spot on. I never considered one little question from way back would come back around. But it was clear they were making Sansa queen of the north. At least they didn't deter from that. I'm still digesting the rest. I suppose Sam doesn't get to marry since he is archmaester? There is logic in it but it doesn't tie together 7 seasons of build up to Jon's true identity. The was just tossed aside to neaten this up. Jon quits cheating on Ghost with dragons. Glad we cleared that up.

Fucking hell. Call it the long goodbye. They tied things up though.

I agree. I guess the writing of late isn't as good as it used to be. I appreciate they were pointing the way for Dany to go mad queen since the beginning. But it still feels like we skipped a gear recently in getting her there. Even though Dany killed Cersei, her death is down below and unseen. That is bad writing, unless she survives it, crawls out and runs into Tyrion who decides to stab her. The big villain demands a more interesting death. Cersei got hosed. Dany too. Rushed, all of it. Ten years spent telling a story just to have it hurried in the end.

I am full of smart ass comments on this episode. Jamie killed Cersei with kindness. The dumbest Lannister killed Cersei. The smartest Lannister helped. In the end the Lannister boys tried to save Cersei. I guess this is consistency. I am mulling this over. Dany had a temper tantrum. Burn them all! When Arya saves, people die. It is only when Arya kills that people live. Frankenstein was killed by his monster.

We complain about the story. But the special effects are fantastic! The dragons are beautiful! The battles are absolutely stunning to watch.

Did anyone find the fight between Jamie and Euron funny? Even before Euron's famous last comment, I was laughing. Then his smile and announcing as he dies, I killed Jamie Lannister was too much. Battle of the stupids. Euron is a great pirate but no more.

True, the bottom line is the bottom line in Hollywood. All these stories can be produced with cool effects because they make a big profit while it appeals to a broad audience. The writing for profit is always going to sacrifice some of the intelligence and depth behind it. But even then writing must follow formulas. The intelligent audience must find satisfaction in the book that George R R Martin has woven into such a tangle he seems to be struggling to write himself out.

I tend to agree with this idea you are developing about this not being one person. Indeed the surviving Stark children have a combined purpose working together. Arya didn't kill the NK by herself. She was almost killed but Bran was able to kill the NK bc Arya tried. I like this symphony. [Correction, I was wrong. I had to watch in slowmo to see what happened. Arya dropped the dagger into her other hand and stabbed him, her trade-mark, last resort-move.] I liked it anyway , but I LOVE that Arya was the one to kill the NK with her bad ass moves. She is my favorite character anyway, but now I can worship her. A girl serves the many faced god greatly. The wolf pack. Nymeria lives because she returned to the pack. I was sure Ghost was going to die. I think his status is unknown at the moment. But Ghost is alone, unless he bonds with the dragon and starts riding one. Or worse, it turns into a Shrek movie.

Something is troubling me about this. Cercei. That bitch gets away with everything!

[Spoilers] It was the best of the series which had a high bar. It was even more intense than Battle of the Bastards. That was impressive! Everything is down hill from here. They just got Winterfell redecorated and look, now they have to fix the place up again. Whew!There are so many high points! Interesting way to use the screaming Dothraki horde, turning them into a massive flaming blade. Watching the unsullied stand off against the dead.

He has been demoted to house pet.

Yep, it was clearly a goodbye episode right down to them sitting around a fire, getting drunk one last time, reminiscing about the good ole days when they were all enemies. Sigh. Everything was too drawn out before, now it's rushed.

Ghost shrunk. He was a normal sized dog. They forgot to feed him.

I kept thinking that looked like a wild roller coaster ride, minus the safety bar and seat belt.

Staying out of sight of the dragons.

It suggests that not all Bran's visions are spontaneous and instant access. Some he has to look for. Perhaps this is part of his growing into the role of being the three eyed raven that he spoke of. And Sam... lol, it seems what she said eventually sunk in. Sam is a good husband/partner if nothing else.

I think Baelish died in a way that fitted with his character. His crying was fake at first but a weasel like Baelish would cry and whimper for real when he realized his games were up and he was totally out of control. He was a worm, sneaky, manipulative little shit, not a fighter. Neither Sansa nor Arya has the strength to behead someone so they had to execute him in their own way. I think this is the justice Baelish earned and deserved. He deserved to die powerless, begging, without kin or kith, whining and laying on the floor squirming and choking in his blood. Of all the people he has screwed over, it is the Starks that he has screwed over the most, used and then infected with his presence. When things change, like women being in charge instead of men, and women fighting alongside men, then the way an execution takes place changes too. It took Sansa and Arya working together to kill execute Baelish, the Starks passed the sentence and carried it out by working together. Sansa has not killed with her own hands, though she has killed. She does not know how nor want to use a knife or a sword. Arya on the other hand is quite good at killing and now that she and Sansa are working together, as well as Bran, they can manage the various aspects of ruling together. The weakness of one is covered by the strength of another.

Some lard and bees wax might do the trick. Helps to bathe only a few times a year too.

Oh yeah. He picks up the wriggling hand and stares in awe. Shouldn't the hand start choking him? Isn't that how zombies work?

I hope it's true, but my heart sank with this fight. I suspect it isn't so because if they were playing it up, why would Sansa go searching in Arya's room? I really don't want to see Little Finger pull one over on the Starks again. But Sansa would be out of character to not catch it and take advantage because she has been on the lookout for L.F. B.S. for a while now. If they are acting for L.F. then they are just that much more awesome. Which brings me to my desire to see them both killing him.

At first I just assumed Cersie was lying to seem to empathize with Cat. But then she and Robert talked about the lost baby in another conversation. So perhaps news of the baby was not spread at first due to the fragility of newborns. I can't speak for GOT but until recent decades, pregnancies and births were kept fairly quiet until there was some degree of certainty that a child was healthy enough to survive. I am thinking that the fortune teller is not always right, or lied because it is very likely that Cersie killed the baby fathered by Robert.

But she has already had 4 in t.v. GOT. Supposedly she had one child of Roberts that got sick and died. The Maggie didn't get that one.

Nope, I totally agree with you. Arya refused to learn courtly graces when she was in court. Then when she had to run away, she had no opportunity to learn how to win friends and influence people which is necessary for managing large organizations, which is basically what a kingdom full of lords and bannermen are. Arya is looking like a Sandsnake at the moment, pissed off and letting her anger get in the way of her survival/killer instincts and leaving her closed to understanding the nuances of this situation.