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Tywin's Wallet

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  1. Finale was great. The scene with Aemond and Luke reads different in the book, but I don't mind it at all. It still feels like Aemond is a malicious person and made his big first kill just to satisfy his ego. Even if it was an accident it doesn't matter, he taunted Luke intentionally. There was 100% intent to harm. I understood there was subtext in the book page that Alicent sent Rhaenyra, I wonder if she was trying to tell Rhaenyra to not take the deal that Otto offered and literally get on a boat with her family and escape Westeros because Alicent knows that Otto would just kill her and her kids even if she accepted the terms.
  2. Otto is just infuriating. I don't like the greens as is, but: - I hate how he invalidates Alicent when she made her stand and he replied to her with " you look like your mother". Like "yeah sweety, whatever, you just go be pretty, that's all you're good for" - Plots behind her daughter's back and behind Viserys while smiling at him and sitting at the king's family dinner table when he was alive. - Basically re-sells Alicent to Larys for information. - Doesn't even give Viserys, "his friend", a proper funeral (who knows they'll just bury him in the style of the faith and not respect Targaryen tradition - I will hate the greens even more if they do this next ep and I already hate them for what they did in the book version). Otto is gross- just really gross. RIP Lord Beesbury and Lord Caswell .
  3. I agree - I think it would have been enough if the "beast beneath the boards" would have applied to Aegon since they got him from underneath the boards of the sept anyway. Just a final shot of him changing his demeanor drunk on his own power would have been effective, I think, and just let Rhaenys escape. Although I took the scene to be a contrast to what Alicent told Otto about "Let them see true Targaryen power" - she's has never seen dragon being used as a show of force so I think in the moment when Rhaenys came up with Maelys Alicent realized what the true power of Targaryen's is, not the sword or the crown or the name or none of that.
  4. Let's say Rhaenyra tells the truth and then what? Rhaenys flies across the sea to drag Laenor back just to find out Laenor is happy with Qarl or another man in complete rejection of Rhaenys' traditions and desires causing more strife, hurt and more rumors. Just leave it alone - some family separations are actually good. Rhaenys and Corlys should have accepted Laenor and stood by him and work out their own succession issues. Dead or alive losing Laenor was Rahenys' and Corlys' doing.
  5. Yeah - maybe they were going for unresolved tension in this episode. Cus as great as the episode was the stress made it hard to watch in a sense. Quite the experience!
  6. RIP Viserys - At least his last memory was of a happy dinner with his family he so loved. But also so sad because we could all see the "beast beneath the board" peaking it's ugly head. Tension was too much. But good on Alicent and Rhaenyra for reconciling (however short-lived). Then -please don't tell me Alicent is going to be seriously consider that her Aegon is the PTWP lol fat NO. Did ya'll hear that short choaking sound after Dyana the servant girl drank the tea - is it because she was crying already and maybe couldn't drink the tea appropriately or was she killled? The fact that she embraced Haleana when she asked for her got me thinking they got rid of the poor girl. RIP Dyana. Also - Talya is Mushroom.
  7. In episode 6 Alicent went alone to see Larys if I remember correctly.
  8. it just occurred to me that there was talk of gold when Daemon was talking to Qarl. I wonder maybe there is a little foreshadow that Laenor will be in business with the Rogare bank (maybe as a partner or investor). That could be a way.
  9. Me too - I'm curious to see how they handle Seasmoke. Not sure how the bonding works or it is a given that the rider must die to disconnect. Either way I hope they make that interesting. I also wonder if maybe they're setting up a Laenor to have hand in returning Viserys 2.
  10. Great set up for all the kids' stories later on. Still though is Daeron in Oldtown or is he cut out of the show? :-/
  11. Did ya'll get the sense that Larys is making moves playing both sides while pretending to be on Alicent's side? In ep 5 when he tells Alicent about Rhaenyra's tea, seemed like he knew that Alicent was weak and feeding her rumours would just push her over the edge and making her vulnerable to bad advise playing on her desperation to save her fam. At the same time he's telling on Rhaenyra to further damage her reputation. Then in ep 5 he kills Harwin who was just about to become a victim of more rumors, his death put a stop on that (b/c out of sight out of mind - it's easier to forget about a dead person) which can somewhat help Rhaenyra gather some strenght while at the same benefiting Alicent by getting rid of Lyonel. He can use this to implicate Alicent if it's time to switch teams too.
  12. This! Also them changing the banner to green just screams theft! I know the surface reason is that it's hard to distinguish banners in battle. But it also sends a clear message of out right robbery. Blacks supporters was probably like that's not the house my ancestors bent the knee to screw that!. That s**t is Hightower takeover. I wouldn't fall for it either and go straight to team black.
  13. I would have liked to know how Crispin got his pass too. I'm assuming that Alicent pleaded mercy and claimed him as his knight and Viserys being weak he just said yes.
  14. After 3 years she still doesn't have clue?? Then the girl is really dim and I don't think showrunners are shooting for dim when it comes to her. She didn't seem to be that ok with going to see Viserys after her father told her to - she kept biting her nails down to the skin because it. That shows at some level she was aware of what was happening. I don't buy that she's been totally unware this whole time or again she's really just unable to think for herself.
  15. It's heartbreaking to see Alicent and Rhaenyra no longer friends. Watching the last ep when she sought Rhaenyra to join the festivities, at first I was a bit disappointed that Rhaenyra dismissed her. But upon rewatch I have to question Alicent's logic here after 2-3 years. Seems like to mend the friendship Alicent would have to tell Rhaenyra the truth, which at minimum would include that she sought the king on the night after Aemma and Baelon's funeral ( hardly forgivable IMO). I doubt that she would go as far as telling that her dad sent her wearing her mom dress because that would expose Otto and would probably get her and her kids disowned since Viserys is growing increasingly mistrustful of the politicking. Is she then hoping to offer half truths to mend the friendship somewhat? I mean Im sure it would make Alicent feel better if her excuses are accepted, but that's just adding selfishness on top of betrayal of trust; which judging by how obvious Otto's ambitions are, Rhaenyra would probably figure out the truth anyway. By this point, I would have expected Alicent to just accept that she won't get that friendship back and leave Rhaenyra alone and just move on as quiet as possible even if that means she starts working with Otto to positioning Aegon as heir (I'd respect her more if she were more honest with herself). I'm liking this predicament in the show more than the book though.
  16. Yes! I think the whole Danny vs. Cersei in the show was more because writer's either didn't understand ASOIAF in general or just chose to ignore it.
  17. I think that when she was young it was all Otto, but as she grew up and gave birth to sons she picked up lessons from her father. She got groomed to be a player in the game and just settled into it basically.
  18. This was great first ep. I liked the fact that they set up the politics and I think most folks that didn't read the book will be surprised how arcs will develop. I was also pleased they brought in the "he-said, she-said" element of the book via Otto's story about Daemon. I wil keep liking the show if they leave some things unanswered to keep us intrigued. SPOILER: I was very pleased with Visery's revealing that Aegon conquered westeros to unite them to fight the long night. I do think that this specific line is set up for the books and not so much referring the show GOT since winning that battle didn't require the entire realm lol. They way Viserys revealed the "song of ice and fire" dream seems to be referring to a much larger, scarier event that will have to become the one reason why Targaryens matter to the entire story rather than keeping or winning the throne for power sake. If hope this show continues to give us some teasers or set up for what's to come in the books and doesn't try too hard to correct the show.
  19. I disagree. Simply put - Frey was never going to give Robb a daughter - a red wedding was always gonna be the plan. The bethrotal was a tactic to give him time to plot betrayal with the Lannisters. Siding with the traitors is way too much risk for an upstart house. He simply gave Robb a false sense of security by pretending to be on his side so he couldn't doubt him. He was always going to off him. Frey puts lots of value on family becuase to him it's a means of advancement, he was not about go waste one of his daughters and all the alligiances he's had forged with the Lannisters on a rebel king for a cause he doesn't care about.
  20. While it could be playing both sides - just like planting seeds here and there in case Starks win. Most likely though, this was a trap from the first as it is hard to believe that Frey would want to swear fealty to house Stark - a house Freys never had anything to do with. That said, Cat mentioned (and regrattably understimated) the fact that Frey's were married into the Lannister family (Tywin's sister is Cleos' mom and if you look at the Frey fam tree there's marriages with Tywin's bannermen i.e Brax). This to me is huge part of the whole betrayal. I think that having a Frey-Lannister marriage is not just a marriage to get rid of offspring but it is a represensation of an alligiance. A consumated marriage has to be 1000X better than a marriage pact with a would-be King as there were no guarantee that Robb would survive battle or win or keep his word. I think Robb was dead the minute Cat made a deal with Walder. Walder leaned with the side that provided him security and protection from becoming traitors to the crpwn and losing all their assets - that wasn't House Stark, that was the Lannisters from the first. Wlader also had beef with the Tullys way before the war and he simply had been looking elsewhere for alligiances for protection perks exactly to be used in these type of conflicts.
  21. Offering alternate way of the presumed burning. It's pretty obvious to a lot of the fandom that KL will be burned. I don't think it will go down the same way as in the show (crazy woman on a dragon) even if D & D had a template b/c many characters were missing. I think GRRM may opt for a classic Westeros politik move to accomplish this instead. I think that Aegon's reign will be met with cheer, but looking at the situation in Westeros: Winter famine, the others, Stannis' rebellion, redistribution of land to his foreign allies (gold company); gray scale outbreak , Euron raiding and rebelling, faith of the seven now being an armed - cheers will not last. So I think instead of mad Danny getting on a dragon and burning the city, I think what makes more sense if for her an Tyrion to intentionally drive Aegon to make a bad mistake banking on his desperation to kick him out of the Cyvasse board: - Daenerys has proved her cunning tricking the masters in Astapor, she also got her people to successfully take Meereen. She pulled a trick more than once she can do it again. Her character is going through a change, but that doesn't mean that she'll come back overtly violent. I think that it will be more interesting for her to come back as more of a Visenya type - less emotional, more pragmatical, threating and more keen to using violence as a means to an end at a precise moment not for violence sake. - With Tyrion at her back and all the stuff she's learning in Slaver's bay she can definitely come up with the types of political tricks that could easily match a red wedding. So she doesn't have to burn kings landing herself but Tyrion and her can easily drive a desperate, inexperienced stressed out king to make a big mistake that will get him killed. - It doesn't make sense for Daenerys come back overtly "fire and blood" when she needs Westeros on her side. I think it's most likely that she will rule with influence at first until people realize who the real power in Westeros is. All she has to do is arrive in Dragonstone and park her dragons and army by DOS when things are really desperate and just watch Aegon come asking favors ("Auntie can I have a dragon, auntie can I have an army, auntie this auntie that" even if Tyrion told him not to do this). Asking will give Danny a chance to publicly step in to fix Aegon's problems until soon enough the lords of Westeros understand who really rules House Targaryen and start considering Aegon as weak. - I think that Daenerys frustrate Aegon by reserving the right of giving him a dragon and challenge him to prove himself worthy of being a king w/o needing her so much. It is likely that Aegon will grow infuriated that his own allies will lose trust in him and in order to prove himself he'll try to steal a dragon and not knowing how to control one (or not having dragon's blood) he will burn kings landing and go down in flames with the city. - For Daenerys mission accomplished - she tricked her nephew, got him out of the way and power resides where people think it resides. She becomes the queen of the ashes with support and so what's left is the war with the others where she'll meet her end. I think that she will become overly confident and cruel and get stabbed by Jon Snow, but it will be because she'll make a dumb mistake and get herself turned in a white walker so powerful that can can control dragons and Jon will have to stab her in the heart with a dragon glass knife or long claw.
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