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oh , I don't think he cares about Haelaena. he just seems to be the only one who knows and cares what Alicent tries to do . he's also a 10 yr old child , so , rather than putting it on solely "ambition" , I think he's after proving himself to the world and that includes having a dragon , listening to mother and how she wants to put them in position of power and swordplay . I mean , it's fair to say by giving dreams to Haelaena instead of making her the happy child of F&B , they intend to give her dream madness instead of grieving madness . my theory is that her dreams will be more frequent and more vivid after her child's death which she would welcome , trying to shut down her dark memory , only for them to give her more reason to grieve for. but these three women's arcs should be handled delicately . basically, they'll all have to deal with loss of their children and in the book are presented as mad queens which is a real letdown for literally half of the women in the Dance.

Aemond doesn't know that . in general , Alicent doesn't seem to care about her children the way Rhaenyra does . she loves them of course the way you have to love your family , but she thinks Aegon is an embarrassing fool and Haelaena is a weirdo . with Daeron in Oldtown , her only child is Aemond who unlike his siblings in fact seems to listen to mother's words very carefully . hence , he knows and repeats well about Strongs , Alicent's plans for Aegon and the value of a brother-sister match . me too . it'll be a huge miss if they don't . besides, Alicent will be enough as a mad queen . Rhaenyra and Haelaena need other paths.

we have seen so little of their interactions .but while Aegon and Haelaena have little to interest Alicent , Aemond seems to be the favorite and on the other hand Aemond seems to be the one sibling who's gonna truly love their mother especially after seeing she is the only person in their family who would stand up for him . additionally , Alys Rivers , a brunette same age as his mom, is right there to give us some sick complexity in his feelings. re, Aegon , Aemond already seems to feel he is worthier than Aegon before claiming Vhagar . so, it's not out of question that as prince regent he wanted to rule permanently or even eventually usurp Aegon and marry Haelaena like a true Targaryen. ps. I still think I'll be rooting for Aemond against Daemon in the show . while ,Aemond seems to be on the path of a bullied kid turning into a the biggest villain, Daemon had barely had an arc so far . he's been a sociopath right from the start , and it's only when he is with Rhaenyra that he seems normal (factoring creepy uncle angle!) , a relationship we already know will go downhill when he goes to his next lonely dragon lady teenager .

so , you think I can't hope they'll skip mass-murderer Aemond part or cold kinslayer Aemond?! because , I've really started liking this kid (special thanks to the kid actor) . believe it or not , show has done something that I'm rooting for Aemond to kill Daemon above god's eye . not the other way around!

the why of it is Vhaegar ( night light=less details on dragon=longer , better delivered scene ) and the fact that it works better if all the scenes are consistently following one another , instead of having Aemond go to sleep and then wake up in the middle of the night to go to Vhaegar. now we should ask why it's so dead dark that nothing can be seen? that is not a creative choice . that's bad technic .

what's so confusing ? he wanted to marry his sister . that's all . personally , I think polygamy is worse . unless , incest is between parent-child or creepy older uncle/aunt-niece/nephew .

that's one of the things they had inevitably lost , when they decided on the structure . if they had done pre-dance in two seasons, say with child versions of the kids in season 1 ending with Rh&D wedding and with their teen versions in season2 , they could have enough time to establish alliances outside of the family , loyalties of council members , Velaryon and Strong families , etc. but I think with their decision to have 30 yrs in 1 season , they were successful enough to flesh out Hobert , Jason and Bormund. so , yeah , introducing all those characters will be a bit difficult next season , but it's a show that's introducing and killing fairly important characters per episode! yep, that's my team as well:) they could end season 2 with Rook's Rest and season3 with Gullet if they want . needs some imagination, but still possible!

that's my read as well . but the show made an attempt to make her sympathetic with MANY likeable qualities and for half the season at that , only to jump 10 years and change it 180 degrees . besides, if you don't want to have a smooth transition between the years and want to leave so much to imagination , it's better to use flashbacks for the past and spend time on getting deep into adult characters throughout the season rather than use a linear structure with far too many time jumps.

yes , I think they should 1. show that Rhaenyra's decision to choose Daemon and fear was pretty dumb (they call her Maegor after all , and it can be for being fearsome and crazy ... rather than just taxes) 2. Rhaenys and Corlys get to know what happened to their son . .. otherwise it makes no sense . young Rhaenyra was a bit bratty and spoiled but that's a long way from showing her in actual negative light or to depict her as capable of doing monstrous things. in a way, adult Rhaenyra is still bratty , spoiled and quite frankly selfish . she 's just more matured now and has the merit of being compared to full villain Alicent. but the whole "Laenor's death" plot ,for example, is a stupid ploy to get Daemon and to think she needs him is just silly ! if there was the slightest chance to make peace with Greens despite Aemond's eye , it is all gone with Daemon at her side . and to be honest , I found the fact that she thinks she saves face quite hilarious! she's had three bastards with a dark haired guy with no similarity to her husband and she doesn't even make the excuse of being desperately in love ! one would imagine a need to be desired doesn't take 10 yrs with one politically incorrect lover .

that's Aegon . and yeah , totally agree with your post . I hope they make Aemond competent and sympathetic to balance the Dance a bit . with whatever they've done with Daemon and Larys , I don't think we need more purely maniac characters in the show, especially on Green side.

LOL. they did coexist , I haven't forgotten ! for me , it's about the role . what will be Laenor's role if Addam does what he does in the book? besides , Corlys brought Hull boys because he either wanted his remaining sons/grandkids to be with him after losing both his children and his wife ,or he was desperate for a male heir . with Laenor in the picture , there's no need of that and Corlys can't name the boys Laenor's to avoid disrespecting Rhaenys's memory . unless ,of course, they are actually Laenor's !

I think that'll be a good idea . it'll be more understandable for people to call her Maegor if she openly runs her court with two kings . later on , Laenor could deal with Tumbleton and Alyn could be a cousin who gets Driftmark by marrying Baella as lady of Driftmark . I'll miss Addam though .

alright then , I suppose you guys are right, cloaked guy must be Daemon. although , in some trailers before ep1 , Aemond was wearing a cloak like that as well. yeah , in my opinion they should have made the fighting a more fair match . for example Rhaena could take Joffrey's place in dragon droppings! or she and the kids (including Aemond )could talk about Vhaegar where she expresses her wish to claim it in her mother's honor or something and Aemond beats her to it , make her feel betrayed . what Condal said about the girls being pissed that someone on the other side of the family has taken their mother's dragon doesn't make much sense , because the girls are new there. they don't know this side of the family and that side of the family . besides , it's not like the kids feel that much of this side and that side for now . Jace and Luke were close to Aegon and they all pranked Aemond . the animosity between kids in the show should only be solidified after this particular incident . not before .

is the dark haired woman in the trailer , the one in white waiting for cloaked guy, Mysaria?

nahh. the news will get to Essos before the battle of Gullet . that'll be pretty pointless in my opinion . why would they keep him alive just to kill him off screen later on to bring a half-brother/son to ,again, die? they had every opportunity to give us a murder of passion when he decides to stand by Rhaenyra instead of Qarl.

apparently these people have silver hair with black eyebrows and beard... sooo.. I mean , if you wanna think about it there are A LOT of problems with it . like, Laenor has time to shave his head but not enough time to put on another pair of boots? or isn't there any one else in that castle? and won't that poor unlucky guy's family notice he's gone? ... then again , I always say, details can be overlooked if the story is compelling and to some extend logical. so , if they deal with this Laenor alive thing later on , I'll be fine with it . because , it's so utterly stupid that Rhaenys won't know his son is alive and well and fight for Rhaenyra, presumably his killer . on the other hand , with having Laenor confess he deeply loves the boys , one would imagine he'd be pissed to find out Luke's killed or that he won't be so cruel to play dead when he knows they are already mourning their other father. not to mention , Seasmoke issue.

why would it imply that? ! I've always read it with c in the middle. sounds better and can be pronounced easier . nope. goes like this: Aegon> Haelena > Aemond> Jace/Baella/Rhaena > Luke when ?!

I largely agree with this . Aemond and little Luke were the obvious victims during that scene . and that's why we don't let kids have knives! they just swing it around and hurt each other after repeating their mothers' words I'm lost . who's the adult ? Aemond , Jace and twins are roughly the same age. a better balance between the book and the show would have been to have Rhaena already there with Vhaegar (like Joff was in the book) and have Aemond hit her before claiming Vhaegar (like in the book) . I've read the books and I was still worried about Aemond when they all fell on him punching him . I mean .. why? so he was a little smug after riding the most badass dragon in the world after being mocked for being dragonless for years .. and repeats his mom's unwise words after being attacked .so what?! the rest isn't bad . but in the book Jace was being brutally hit (instead of sand business) when Luke goes to defend him . so it makes more sense. yeah , they could totally pull a Aegon-Naerys_Aemon there! and hopefully they won't make Aemond a full scale Daemon.

in the book he thinks of appointing Rhaenyra his hand but prefers to keep her and Alicent away from one another after Aemond incident . I hoped we see some of that here , perhaps with Rhaenyra trying to push for Corlys as hand if not herself , etc. only for Alicent to later win the argument because Viserys doesn't like Corlys and has an old friendship with Otto.

yes , definitely . last ep, the way he was sniffing the flower representing Alicent was telling. but now Cole downright said it! and it makes total sense with the acting . he's the weirdo stalker that Alicent's afraid of but keeps close just in case . maybe we'll see the love triangle after all! I proffered the betrothal happened when they were toddlers and by Laena and Rhaenyra , for the former's ambition and latter's desire to keep Velaryons and Daemon on her side , like in the book . but next episode is called "lord of Tides " if that's not where they address this , I don't know when's the time!

she could bring in a lyssene descendant whore , pay him enough through years and make sure that's all the poor guy will ever hope for . there would be other ways as well . heir to Harrenhall was a gamble from the start . Cole was a powerless knight and could screw her over . imagine what Harwin could do if he wasn't so uniquely devoted.

doesn't she? .. she is desperately trying to shut down any "vile rumors" about their bastardy . one would imagine she hoped for a silver hair baby every time! but I can't say why she didn't try to find a silver haired guy after Jace was born , likely with rumors about his hair . my book explanation for it has always been that Rhaenyra was pretty much a monogamist romantic who loved Harwin . this Rhaenyra trusted Harwin and liked to be desired... and that's all. odd ! I don't think there's a shortage of valyrian looking guys that can be trusted and have a thing for the princess in Kingslanding and Dragonstone!

I have a bad feeling that they'll just do that with the twins and the Strongs engagement . but I don't think that's sufficient especially with Laenor's "death" . letting Rhaenys and Corlys know their son's alive and on board with Rhaenyra getting herself a second husband is NECESSARY in my opinion. Book_Rhaenys seemed to have ambition of her own and one could presume that if she hadn't gotten the throne for her own when she fiercely tried to in 92 and 101 , she'll at least fight for Rhaenyra's to avoid another "Queen Who Never was" and ensure her future descendants through Baela on the throne. it also appeared that both she and Corlys had accepted Rhaenyra's bastards . unfortunately , Rhaenyra seems to be the only ambitious woman in the show . Laena and Rhaenys have both lost their fiery characters in the show. it would be smart to have Royces declare for Greens despite lady Jeyne declaring for Blacks . it'll be sloppy not to mention poor Rhea Royce's murder later on . when Rhaenyra is fleeing to Dragonstone , it'll be the perfect opportunity to say the delay Arryn forces have is because of being preoccupied with fighting the Royces instead of not finding ships. ... I think this could make sense . as far as I recall , later , Jeyne's cousin who challenged her heir's succession had the support of Runestone.

Re R & D, I could understand why book-Daemon had a certain appeal to him . he was supposed to be charming , dangerous (a good trait in this world) , funny and competent which is understandably attractive to an adventurous dragon lady Laena and a 14 yr old princess Rhaenyra who sees herself undermined by her stepmother and will later be trapped in a loveless marriage . show-Daemon , on the other hand , isn't fun to be around , isn't charming , is explicitly incompetent in Stepstones and other matters and doesn't reach out to Rhaenyra when she is lonely and friendless (show-Rhaenyra was still friends with Alicent) . so it became unintentionally hilarious that Rhaenyra thinks having Daemon by her side will be helpful to her in the future ! I hope they go the route that she'll finally see that Daemon isn't the man to rely on and keep him out of her bed after B&Ch . leading him to go to Mysaria . oh ! and their wedding sure looked ominous with all their kids upset and in mourning black. Re Aegon . I honestly don't see much wrong with the guy yet . (he is 13) and it'll be a big stretch to see him congratulate Aemond in killing Luke , considering that in the previous episode he seemed to like Luke and Jace way better than his own siblings.

did they have to have Daemon laugh out loud in Laena's funeral and totally abandon his kids? every time I think there's no room to hate this guy more ... little Luke is absolutely my favorite character! why is Corlys such a Daemon fanboy? Aemond! this kid has some cruelty(inherited from his mom) but he's really likeable despite it! at least he's smart (unlike his uncle who's just cruel!) . I mean , in one move he hit Luke , Jace and later Aegon! and with his "our blood will be pure" speech , he surely has Daemon vibes . but I definitely prefer him to Daemon for now. I did not expect to like keeping Laenor alive , but the alternative (Rhaenyra having him killed after he gave "you deserve more" speech) was just horrible! but they've got to keep him keep coming back to have it make sense . he can't leave his poor mother like that and one would expect with the rumors spreading about R&D having a hand in Laenor's death , Rhaenys wouldn't just give her life for Rhaenyra's cause . besides , Laenor clearly loves his kids and it'll make sense if he comes back upon hearing Luke's death for revenge or something . although , an alternative is to keep Luke alive and have him reunited with his "father" . after all he doesn't want Driftmark! by the way, how can Addam get Seasmoke, now that Laenor's alive?