GiantLannister

I’ll be reformatting the post soon for better readability and remove some redundant points. I get that it’s a rather long post, but wanted to get as much information out there before posting other observations. I get the ‘female’ Others is a bit jarring and very likely untrue, but I wanted to cover as many possibilities hoping it might point to things that might be flying under the radar.

There’s a fair bit of wolf symbolism attached to Dany, not least of which is her howling birthing. Yet, just as Jon’s northern and wolf symbolism is used overwhelmingly to mask his possible Targaryen lineage, Dany’s fire+Dragon heritage is pushed forward to mask her - potential - northern moorings. I am of the view that Jon/Dany are twins, and if not, there’s some wolf/northen angle to her existence. She riding silver, as if born to ride horses, is markedly on the nose and made more poignant by the fact that she marries a horse lord. Though I have no idea what to make of her eating a horse’s heart…. Be that as it may, I think Martin’s rhyming is his way of re-enacting past history, and as such offer a re-telling of myths, legends and history. Steelsong and the monster’s births are a retelling of Jon/Dany birthing, as is their eventual swap over a bogeyman Baratheon’s threat, and sending the baby under peril as far away as possible.Here then Jon plays the role of ‘stone hearted’ Ned, Sam that of Howland Reed. Robb’s march South to avenge the death of his father, the former lord of Winterfell is a retelling - albeit unsuccessful - of Ned’s own successful march south during the rebellion. Both campaigns involve bethroding to secure vital alliances. Robb’s own little battle of wits with his bannermen might be an echo of a similarly aged young Ned’s battle of wits to show himself as fit to lead the North. Brianne’s own adventure is a parallel to Dunk’s adventures, uncovering Westeros and its life and times from a knight on the road’s perspective, perhaps eventually to enter service as a king;s guard, as lord commander even.

Yeah. Come to think of it, allowing the so called storm-born to escape… Stannis doesn’t seem too perturbed by it. That’s if both were in the same location. Aemon Steel song and Maester Aemon… both escape the flames. Assuming Boogey-man Stannis ever meant to burn them in the first place.

Does it? Dany/Jon are continents apart. Sam/Gilly are re enacting Howland/Dary/Ned’s (+Ashara/Wylla) journey to whisk off the children, both are now as far away from the place of birth as possible, in disguise. Aemon Steelsong’s birthing and subsequent danger from a Stag Baratheon echoes Jon/Dany’s birthing - especially Jon’s.

That’s likely George’s history may not repeat but it definitely rhymes theme. Man’s nature is essentially unchanging. “History is a wheel, for the nature of man is fundamentally unchanging. What has happened before will perforce happen again.” — George R.R. Martin

As does Stannis !

It is posts like yours, hidden gems amongst the match-making, head cannoning, playing favourites or projecting personal world view posts, that makes an occasional wander around these parts worth our time. Your speculation is one of those rare under the radar finds, the classic Martin fashion subtle and spread far apart hints such that they escape discovery. I think you are onto something here. Now that you have made a connection, other potential parallels offer themselves: Mance Rayder is sometimes a stand-in for Rhaegar. like Dary, Leather’s king/prince lost to a Baratheon. like Dary, Leather’s king/prince’s child is being born as he rides off to battle the would be usurper, to lose and is now presumably dead. that’s a Jon/dany parallel too Like Dary, Leather now might on the look out for the dead king’s heir. some readers have speculated that Dany’s incognito entourage had someone who taught her languages (that’s how she knows Ghiscari apparently). If so, then Leather as translator between speeches also works. Jeor as Dary parallel need not negate leather’s own parallel. Martin sometimes spreads the clues amongst the characters. Arya’s is a stand in for Lyanna but so is Lady Lance who’s own journey might echo Lyanna’s post the ‘kidnapping’. Jon is as much a parallel for Ned as he is Rhaegars. finally, it might be worth the effort to ask what does this tell us about Dany’s past. Are there other things around Jeor/Leather that clue us to her past ?