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It was a way of also complementing Dany and rewarding Missandei for her passionate defense of her. I don't think it was careless or out of place, it was flattery.

There was no ambiguity with Olenna's death. She gulps down poison. It's quite different from charging at a dragon and then being knocked out of the way (although I would argue there's no ambiguity here either, it's just unambiguous in the opposite way). If they wanted it to be a true cliffhanger leave it where Drogon looks over before he breathes fire. Leave it with Jaime raising the spear. But no, they purposely show you that Jaime does not get hit by fire, and does not get eaten by Drogon. He gets pushed out of the way at the very last second. That's clear. Whats further, if you can't tell from the obvious construction of the scene, then a basic understanding of how storytelling works should clue you in. Jaime's story isn't going to end there. There are far too many loose ends to tie up. The whole scene was stupid and shouldn't have been put in at all. Because it is obvious that Jaime and Bronn have some heavy plot armor in that scene and it's sloppy, and so unlike the first few seasons of the show when they have Martin's work as a guide.

But Tyrion didn't die either. And, no this isn't the type of thing D&D have ever done. The show has rarely shied away from showing deaths, the one time they did with Stannis and people thought he was alive for two years. If Jaime were dead, we would have seen him die. We didn't, so he isn't.

Bronn is only in it for the gold. He's a horrible human being (although an interesting character), and if Tyrion can offer more money than the Lannisters he'll switch. If not, he won't. That being said, I am not happy that he survived this episode because that was a helluva lot plot armor he had on during that battle.

Of course he is alive. What would even be the point of having him saved by Bronn like that if it wasn't to kill him. If they wanted him dead they could have had Drogon bite his head off or turn him into a pile of ashes. The fact that it is left ambiguous means that he is alive. There is no question about it. They wouldn't avoid a gruesome, cruel death like that for Jaime to have him slowly drown between episodes.

There are many legitimate critiques of the show. I hated last week's episode for many legitimate reasons that evaluate the show as a TV show and not as an adaptation of a book series that is not finished. But I also love the books and loved them well before there was a TV show to talk about compare them with. I just can call a spade a spade and see when people are being unfair to the TV show (in either direction) because of their biases.

You must be new here. Having been here since before the first season, I've seen plenty of it.

All of these ratings mean nothing because my 10 is not going to be your 10. A 10 for someone can mean perfect while for someone else it can mean between a 90% - 100%. Someone's score of a 1 in previous seasons would come from it not being a perfect representation of the book, or from someone who didn't like a particular scene or whatever. These scores really don't mean anything, but I still bet I'm right that the person who gave this episode a 1 was a book fan who is still not able to separate the show from the books and has hated the show since season 2 but still watches it just to shit on it week after week and post about how much the show sucks.

Jaime really should have died in this episode though. If he was going to charge Drogon like that he should have been killed. The show decided to save him at least twice in this sequence when he really should have died. I don't want Jaime to die, but I don't understand how the show that prided itself on breaking fantasy norms, not saving the hero at the very last second did it twice with Jaime within a few seconds and with Bronn as well. It was my biggest problem with this episode.

Yeah, really. She said all she had to live for was revenge, and being the last Tyrell there's no reason to keep stock piles of gold just laying around. She would have hired every sellsword and every faceless man if that really were the way she had felt. Sadly, I think they butchered Olenna's character last week with their Highgarden plot.

Is there somewhere that explains this theory more, because I have to admit I don't understand how people could come up with this from The World of Ice and Fire.

Some butthurt book fan I bet. (Coming from a sometimes butthurt book fan)

In the aftershow D&D said something about the White Walkers using the symbols of their creators, the Children. But I cannot for the life of me figure out what that would mean or why they would be doing that.

There was a close of up a man on fire who I thought looked like Randyll but I couldn't tell for certain. I'm hoping they died since they decided to saved Bronn and Jaime with plot armor.

And dragons don't fly.

I did too. I was smiling during this scene because you could see how impressed Brienne was and how Arya knew that she would be fighting in a style that would throw Brienne off of her game. I really enjoyed that scene. As well as all of the Stark sibling scenes in tonight's episode.

I loved this episode. Loved it more than any before I think. But, Jaime should have died. C'mon. This is the show that made it's name off of the "not rescuing the hero at the last minute" and they continually were rescuing the hero in that scene. But that's my biggest gripe, because from start to finish this was great.

After what was an amazing low for me last week, this was an amazing high for me this week. Probably the best episode ever. I was so much more into that dragon battle than I ever expected I would be! I was on edge the whole time and could feel my heart racing. It was phenomenal and beautifully done.

This is exactly how I feel. It was so forced.

Yep. Bad writing and sloppy story telling made the Reach lose and Olenna die.

A very sloppy episode imo. It felt rushed and like they wanted to just cut the budget, almost like in Season 1. I gave it a 3/10, the lowest I've given anything in a long time.

Yeah, I agree. Olenna is right in that they should have just attacked. Instead she made known her presence and then delayed even longer. I get that she doesn't want to be the Queen of Ashes and I respect her for wanting to fight this war with the least amount of civilian deaths, but if she is so determined to just seize the capital by force, then she should have done it immediately. Now a prolonged war will give Cersei time to develop weapons, and, I would suspect, put Aerys' backup plan back into commission.

Is it really that much more expensive to use the wolves than three dragons? Or huge battles on ships?

Well they essentially nerf'ed Jaime's character last season and are only just now starting his "damn this woman is evil" storyline.

Because they haven't just been confirming fan theories ever since they ran out of GRRM's written material...