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Dr. Pepper

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  1. I love how you described it, as a love story to the NW. Because that explains exactly why I liked the episode despite it being a bit underwhelming for me.
  2. Salty is a bit different. Salty is more haggard or brash. Like book!Tormund would be salty.
  3. I don't think we are in disagreement because I agree that the wall arc will have less screen time next episode. My point is that it seems many posters here are upset that this episode wasn't about Stannis or that Stannis is being set up to be the villain, when actually this episode served the purpose of setting up Stannis to be the hero who saves the heroes. I don't know why there is need for complaint on that specific aspect. I pointed out earlier that I would have preferred that Stannis show up in this episode. But that's mostly because I'm underwhelmed with the wall because the pacing has been really slow and just want to get to the other stuff. Still, I would think folks would be pleased that the finale will include Stannis saving the day rather than the penultimate episode being the last they see of Stannis until next year. It seems like the point would be that the Stannis of Blackwater isn't the same Stannis that will arrive in The Children.
  4. I have no idea about how D&D feel about Stannis, nor do I think it really matters since this is their baby and they can tell it anyway they want. Still, my big problem is that a lot of Stannis fans lack the ability to articulate why Stannis' arc is problematic for the show. The thing about Melisandre being the one credited with Stannis' decisions is a good point because it has made Davos out to be a completely useless character since there is no angel on Stannis' shoulder to balance out that devil (I'm likening Mel to the devil here). From what I recall, they haven't yet made the shift from Stannis being reliant on Mel to him relying more on Davos.
  5. Lol. Stannis isn't Macgyver, yo. The typical viewer is left with the suspense of what's going to happen to Jon, as he's walking into the ticking bomb at the end of this episode.
  6. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you were familiar with the "save the day" idiom. It doesn't literally mean saving the actual day that something happened. It means solving a problem when something bad is expected. I think it depends on perspective. Mance has the upper hand in the negotiation because his force will eventually overwhelm the watch, unless the watch lets them through the wall wherein Mance can maintain leadership of his horde. But after the Stannis attack, Mance loses that upper hand so if he wants to get through, there needs to be some knee bending. It all depends on whether or not who the viewer feels the most sympathy with. It appears they set it up so that the most sympathy goes towards the watch so any plot where the wildling horde isn't free to reap and raid south of the wall and possibly overtake the watch is probably what the typical viewer wants. I mean, viewers aren't usually on the cannibal train, unless it's Hannibal, the Mads Mikkelson version.
  7. I agree. I have felt underwhelmed with the entire watch arc all season. Mostly because they had to slow it down and add in the Craster filler in order for the rest of the arcs to catch up. I could have preferred Stannis showing up this episode, but I'm also glad that the timeline isn't so wonky when the season ends. What? There's no battle raging. Jon is parlaying with Mance at the moment. There's no battle at all going on until Stannis shows up.
  8. Oh man, I didn't mean to make you feel left out. E-RO, CALM DOWN BRAH. STANNIS IS GONNA SAVE JON, THE BOSS OF THE WATCH, AND OF COURSE THE REST OF THE WATCH, FROM DOOM AND GLOOM. HE'S ALSO GOING TO SINGLE-HANDEDLY TURN MANCE FROM HAVING THE UPPER HAND AND NEGOTIATING A PACT TO LEAD HIS OWN MEN SOUTH TO BEING FORCED TO BEND THE KNEE BECAUSE STANNIS JUST SAVED THE M-F'ING DAY. Damn, I'm a douchebag for typing in caps. Now I feel bad for chastising.
  9. Ok, so you're saying that Stannis' only contribution to awesome is when he gobbles up screentime? Alrighty, then. I guess I see your point in that they've not made Stannis a suitable enough character to be able to own it in five minutes.
  10. I didn't think they were suggesting that Jon is suddenly fireproof, especially after he burned his hand. I mean, they went out of their way to make dany fireproof, but that's not actually how it works. However, the scene was just a cute little wink. Just more Jon fire connection.
  11. I'm so confused about why the fanatics are worried that Stannis will have lost his moment. If anything, the show went out of it's way to set up Stannis being some hero. They set up Jon looking as the hero of battle numero uno who talks to other heros of the battle about how they are totally fucked because Mance still so greatly outnumbers them, then our hero Jon goes off into the sunset to meet with Mance without wolf or weapon totally thinking he's going to die and he'll be surrounded by giants and mammoths and 100k wildlings and it will look impressively sinister for Jon until suddenly, this dude comes out of the trees and saves the fucking day. That's a better set up for Stannis in the books because this time, Jon volunteered rather than where he was forced to do it in the books. He's walking out there like a boss and if the negotiation doesn't go well, he's dead. Of course, Jon may likely be negotiating with Mance, like he was in the books, when Stannis shows up, but still...come on. How much more of a "stannis saves the day" set up do you fanatics need? Get a grip.
  12. They were just beginning a possible negotiation when Stannis showed up. That was the whole "are you a true king" thing was all about. If Mance wasn't going to bend the knee and wasn't going to stop attacking the wall, would he have been able to control his people south of the wall. Then boom, Stannis attacks. Which is exactly what that poster described so it's weird that he's all butthurt that the show might turn out to be pretty true to the actual scene.
  13. The woman went catatonic. That's pretty mad! She had so clearly lost her mind. Plus, this will be the face of Stoneheart so it absolutely works because she literally transformed into Stoneheart moments before her throat was slit.
  14. I agree with this absolutely. The book is the inspiration for the series, but ultimately, to translate the book to screen, an adaptation must occur. Things must be trimmed down, the show must create it's own canon, etc. A show is limited by budget, time, ability, etc. Plus, they end up putting a lot of the 'important' things in the scene anyway. You just have to actually watch and look. Like the books, everything in the show isn't spoonfed. Oh man, this one had so many more easter eggs than normal! I have this super long list of it all. My eyes could barely process, they were moving to fast across the screen and trying to keep up with what my ears were hearing!
  15. If I were a book purist with no idea whatsoever how to adapt a book series to a screen series, I'd probably give this an 8. Since I'm neither, I give it a 10. It's absolutely brilliant adaptation work. Everything works, they stay true to their canon. I feel the emotions I'm meant to feel with each scene. All of the the little, easter egg stuff just jumps out to me (like boar continuing to indicate regime shift/dead kings). Rewatching episodes is absolutely as great as rereading because they cram each scene full with little bits that make for fun analysis.
  16. When my heart is pounding at the end of an episode, it probably means it was pretty good. Wow! Poor Puddles.
  17. I also gave the episode a low rating. I kept looking at the clock wanting it to be over, which never happens when watching GoT. I think my opinion of it will change in hindsight, but with only the material so far, it didn't excite me at all. This episode will probably be infinitely better when it's viewed as part of a whole, but as a standalone, didn't work for me.
  18. This makes sense, I suppose. I figured he chickened out, but it wasn't made to seem that way. It was just so weird, and felt unnecessary. I could have done with Pod not returning this ep, especially in the middle of Iron Bank talk.
  19. I don't think it was supposed to, but it happened on my viewing as well. I confirmed with several others that it started before the hand was cut off. It was very jarring and sort of ruined the gravity of that scene. Ok, so this episode wasn't thrilling to me. I was actually bored a lot of the time. One thing I don't get, and I hope someone can explain it to me - Why did Pod get the whore services for free?
  20. I literally couldn't blink from the moment the ships blew up until the credits! It was bloody brilliant. Everything was so great but my personal favorite was having a tune to go with the "Rains of Castamere". It's stuck in my head now. :)
  21. The Qarth scenes are just so....lacking. There's something missing and it feels very contrived. Because of Qarth. Arya continues to shine. You can really tell how good she is when she has a scene alongside Tywin. They are taking Bran's storyline in a whole different way and I find myself enjoying it. I'm still so surprised how great the child actors are. Asha continues to be so incredibly unlikeable. I tried to get over the fact that she isn't book Asha and accept this different Asha they are portraying, but the actress is just terrible. She is no natural actress. Because of Qarth and some other issues, I give it a 7.5.
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