Tyryan Lannister

Summerhall and it's relation to the Ice is something that's been talked about since I first joined back in 8 (didn't start posting until 11) Don't know if this is the particular theory you're thinking of, but my thoughts on the connection are such: We know that Summerhall occurred in 259; we also know that Rhaegar was born on this exact same day. It is safe to assume, given his description in book and what Martin has stated about Craster in various interviews, that Craster is roughly 55 at the time of Game of Thrones etc. Summerhall's date puts it at 40 years ago; forty years ago puts Craster at around 15 years old at the time of Summerhall, and 15 seems to be the age at which the Westerosi women start having families, and, from what we know of human nature and how the wildlings operate, 13-15 years old is likely when wildling men start thinking about and actually go and steal their wife, meaning first child is 14-16. If we take Craster's age as around 55 at time of novels, it puts him at around 15 at time of Summerhall, meaning that right around Summerhall was probably when he had his first child; if Craster has always sacrificed his boys from the beginning, then him starting his sacrifices occurred at almost the exact time as the incident at Summerhall (also provided it didn't take Craster a significant number of years to have a son instead of a daughter).

A good place to start would be right where we are, H91, since this is the beginning of a multi-part series of recap threads, each iteration is a different topic, trying to get to a consensus for H100. current topic is the Wall, it's origins, and it's purpose(s)

O, gods, it's Heresy everywhere! :commie: :commie: :commie: We need to get this one into multiple iterations so we can have two threads with more numbers that RLJ!

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Agreed. And have to add that it's more than 3000 missing. Dany bought 8 legions of Unsullied (each with 1000 members apiece), 600 Unsullied from a ninth unfinished legion, plus all the Unsullied-in-training, likely amounting to another 1-2 thousand, so a safe bet would be that Dany started with 10000 under the command of Grey Worm, and through fighting, the Sons of the Harpy, and the very limited deaths due to plague, that number has likely only dwindled down to 8500-900 total under Grey Worm; So we're closer to "missing" 4000 at this point. But they are probably not "missing", just not on the battle field, for I highly doubt that either Barristan nor Grey Worm would have put all the Unsullied in the field, instead being very prudent battlefield commanders (which they both most definitely are) and choosing to leave almost half the force in reserve (and honestly, what better way to defeat the Yunkai et al than to have a giant offensive using a bunch of different armies along with 5000 Unsullied, retreat, and then come at that again with almost the same number of Unsullied except that these guys are all fresh and rested?)

From what I'm aware of, we know that the horn will kill the person who blows it if they blow three blasts, but it is unknown if one blast alone is enough to kill a man--Vic is just being cautious in having chosen three thralls to blow it in his place Agreed. And I think that this is why Martin has been releasing so many chapters from Winds--notice how they are all centered around the events that should have happened in Dance/that were easy to assume would happen? We also need to remember that Marwyn should show his mastiff mug at some point as well :agree: hehehehe The Great One hehehe Well, I for one feel that that one was justified, seeing as it was ultimately Lysa who started this whole mess (poisoning Arryn so that she and The Great One could be together) Exactly--if Quent survived and it was the TP that died, then how did Barry meet with the TP after Quent's death? EDIT: spelling

Just trying to get an idea of what the relationship between Vic and Barry will be-- During the Greyjoy Rebellion, wasn't Barristan the "head general"? I know that Robert was "in charge" but let's face it, all Robert was ever actually good at on the field was morale and getting his people to fight, whereas Barristan has had on numerous occasions proven himself to be a great battlefield commander. Basically, if I am remembering that correctly (that Barristan was the official battlefield commander of the siege of Pyke and such), it's gonna add an interesting layer to those two attempting to work together--and then once Tyrion gets added into the pot, things will start to go crazy