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I'm re-discovering Jimmy Eat World recently. It's one of those bands that I forgot how many songs of theirs I actually knew until I heard a playlist of their stuff on a streaming site. Here's an acoustic mix from NPR Tiny Desk a few months ago. "The Middle" is around the 7minute mark, and the lyrics of that song definitely ring true during these quarantine times.

On 4/28/2019 at 9:26 PM, Anthony Pirtle said:

8/10 

I'm somewhat disappointed that we killed off the Night King halfway through the season, but the battle was pretty epic. I was surprised by how, out of the dozens of potential deaths of named characters, only 6 or 7 died. R.I.P., Lyanna.

Ditto. I just watched it again tonight before S8E5, and I liked it more on the second viewing when I didn't have expectations. I also was able to adjust the setting on my TV to see a bit more clearly this time. I give it an 8/10, since it was indeed suspenseful and epic in execution yet it was not as emotionally impactful as some other great battles in the show (Blackwater Bay, Hardhome, & Battle of the Bastards)

Worst thing about Daeny becoming the Mad Queen is that it means Cersei fucking won. She turned The Breaker of Chains into Cersei "Evil-Petty-Ass" Lannister. The green bursts of wildfyre throughout the city evoked how Cersei did the same exact thing to her enemies in S6 when she destroyed her enemies at the cost of innocent lives and the destruction of a part of King's Landing. It also reminded me of how Daeny's father's wishes for the Lannister sack of KL during Robert's Rebellion were being now being enacted by his daughter.

Well damn. The Mad Queen. Damn. I knew it was not likely Daeny would survive this series, but I didn't think she'd go out like this--the death of the Breaker of Chains and the birth of The Mad Queen. She did exactly what her father set out to do. Damn. It's like that line from Harvey Dent in The Dark Knight, you either die the hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

So I'm definitely going to have to re-watch this one one or two more times. Just the shock of it all was a bit too much to process. They kept giving us hints that Daeny may turn since S7, but I thought those were just red herrings--like the whole Sansa v Arya v Littlefinger subplot from S7.

7/10

I was hoping for a bit more action in the opening since it's been two years since any new GoT. However, I really dug how they tried to give the first episode of the last season symmetry to the first episode of the first season.--both with plot points and character interactions. Looking forward to a pretty epic throwdown in S8E2 though. 

20 hours ago, Aemon Targaryen said:

sum total of season is absolutely nothing new was learnt

so this makes the finale a 2/10 for me 

9/10 for me.

A good deal new was learned--Jon's true name, Cersei's plan with Euron, what happens when the NK reanimates a dragon, how The Wall looks tumbling down, what it looks like when KINT and his aunt bump nasties, and how LF dies.  All that coupled with the great Dragon Pitt scene/reunions and you've got a winning episode in my book.

19 hours ago, bullterrier0 said:

Strongest army in Essos is what she said.

I guess technically now that the Dothraki are on Westeros that's true.

18 hours ago, Cron said:

10.

Best scene:  "3 Starks Gang Up on LF and Cross Him Off."

It felt like it came 3 episodes too late. Basically the whole LF/Arya/Sansa plot was drawn out drama that was well telegraphed and led to a very predictable conclusion. The whole dagger plot was just glossed over in the litany of LF's crimes. It felt a bit anticlimactic. It's a subpar scene in terms of writing compared to S1-5; however, in terms of performance, it is on point. And with all that being said, I liked seeing the Starks score a win. 

17 hours ago, Mikkel said:

This is the only part that surprised me, I mean someone (other than redshirts) had to die but I would've thought Viserion might be enough. On the other hand they have been shedding non-essentials a lot lately (or shredding, in Thoros' case, heh!).

That last bit was nearly unBEARable.

But yeah, I thought Thoros for sure was gonna go and possibly Jorah or Tormund. Thoros gone makes Baeric's role as a possible AA more tenuous. And Tormund damn near went. But I guess Jorah needs to stay around for plot reasons as tension between Jon and Daeny's budding romance.

Wow, very interesting results on the pole for this episode. It's one of the more heavily weighted episodes in the negative column in a while. One of the things that made it less exciting is how by the numbers and "trope-ish" this episode was. One of the great things about GoT is how it subverts audience expectations by veering from the usual action story tropes. I feel like a lot of the events were predicted even before the leaks (Gracias, HBO.) occurred: Daeny saves the day, NK gets a zombie dragon, Thoros dies, 

10/10

It's the reunion episode! Plus some of the best damn dragon CGI in the history of ever. Maybe even better than last week, as we got a lot of closeups with Drogon this episode. I felt the power of Drogon on screen when Jon was reaching out his hand. Goosebumps!

So many great moments for all of our main players in this episode. And two great lines for the fans with Davos' rowing comment and Gilly almost spilling the beans about Jon's lineage to Sam. 

Also, I never knew Jon meeting Gendry was a scene I wanted, but I'm certainly glad we got it.

Struggled between either an 8 or 9 but went with 9 because dragon & Bronn.

* Is it just me or is Davos flirting hardcore with Missandei? Ya boy better keep it in his trousers or Greyworm is likely to go Unsullied on him.

* That Theon & Jon reunion was classic. 

* Can one of the GoT spin off's HBO is considering please be "Jon Snow: Amateur Archeologist"? 

* Daeny really cut Tyrion down to size after that Casterly Rock fiasco. 

* Y'all, I'm about done with these speechless looks from Littlefinger. Arya needs to stab his ass with that dagger already.

* Bronn's gonna get his castle now for sure. If he isn't ded that is.

3 hours ago, plectrum said:

Good to see Bran made it back indoors after Sansa left him in the snow last week...

Homeboy has a wheelchair now, so that won't be problem in the future.

6 minutes ago, The Bear said:

I forgot to add that Bran is a massive asshole now...

After his conversation with Meera I feel just the opposite. He's not Bran anymore but the Three-Eyed-Raven. Who Bran was is a part of him, but he's got a world of memories in him now and he didn't get the proper training on how to sort through them. I think that's why he's a bit wonky with people and his visions now. ("Chaos is  a ladder.")

7 hours ago, The Bear said:

..Maybe don't creepily recount her rape to her, Bran?

Preach.

7 hours ago, plectrum said:

So...Sansa just left a crippled kid in the freezing cold?  This seems...unwise.

He asked for it. Also, see above quote for all the justification Sansa needed to give him a quick cold shoulder.

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Internet: OMG! Daeny FINALLY meets Jon!

Me: OMG Tyrion & Jon FINALLY get scenes again!

 

A lot of great character scenes in S7E3. I gave it an 8 for the Dragonstone scenes, Lady Olena's mic drop of an exit, and Capt. Euron Sparrow. Deducted points because the Cersei revenge scene was a bit of a let down. All talk. And also I thought the two big battles this week were anti-climactic. 

18 hours ago, Frances Bean Corbray said:

Okay let's seriously (wink wink) try to figure out my score for this week.  Now, as Ian MacShane famously said, it's just Tits And Dragons, so lets use that as our baseline. Were there Dragons this week?  YES. Were there tits?  NO.  Okay, since only half the show formula is present, our baseline is 5 out of 10...

...HEY LOOK IT'S CAPTAIN JACK SPARROhnowaitmymistake...

So 5.5.  I guess I'll go up to 6 because I'm in a good mood because the show is back and I tend to like the things I like more than I hate the things I hate.

 

I edited it for space, but truly your whole post was hilarious. I highly recommend anyone new to the thread go back to the second page and read the whole thing for a good laugh.

No action but so many great character moments. The only downside to this episode for me is the Sam montage of muck went on longer than needed. Episode alone gets an 8 from me, but this episode with Arya's cold open made it a 9. Here's hoping the rest of the season maintains or excels the quality of the opener.

I'm just jumping in here because I only discovered this show last week on Netflix and I love it. It's a competition show where everyone isn't a raging asshole to everyone else. Baking! Puns! Brilliant!

Not sure why Netflix only has 3 seasons though. I need more technical challenges!

Cleveland rocks!

Also, as a fan of ASoIaF, how awesome would it be to have a friend named Winter? "Hey, hold the door, Winter is coming!"

God, that would never get old for me.

10/10

That whole opening scene in King's Landing was just brilliant. The quietness of the piece especially works in juxtaposition to the loud combativeness of the battle scenes in last episode. Cersei felled more enemies than Gangsta Sansa and she never left her house. 

23 hours ago, Talking Hodor said:

Fuck yeah!  I give this episode an 11 out of 10.  They kicked it up a notch Spinal Tap-style. This was by far the most metal episode in the entire series...

  This guy, he gets it. 

On 6/22/2016 at 8:10 AM, Dolorous Gabe said:

I'll help you out if you can't be bothered to check the conversation between SdlT and PP (but hey, it's easier to create straw men to attack I guess!).

SdlT is suggesting that people are falling for the misdirection of analogical shiny objects (as in "oooh, look at the shiny things. How awesome!") in judging this episode.

PP replied with a collection of "badass" elements as being the reason the episode was so good.

SdlT then pointed out that such analyses very much supports his point.

Pretty good summation there; although, I will correct you on that last line. SdiR replied in a very condescending manner that such analyses... 

On 6/22/2016 at 6:06 AM, Señor de la Tormenta said:

Yep. Thats kind of my point. Look at all the times you wrote "badass".

,,, Also, someone who pays atention to the """story"""" wont see Sansa as a badass. Insted, as the """plot'''" was set, she got almost all his brothers army killed because of keeping information for herself. Wait for more troops! Which troops? Mmmm lol. 

The same goes for Mereen. Tyron had no plan. The cities defences didnt work. No men, no nothing. So they pulled it out with Daenerys burning it all. We dont even see a threat to dragons like spears, arrows, no thrill, just boreing "badassery".

 . . .I want characters who win and lose, enjoy and suffer because what they chose to do, how they overcame and react to shit.  sometimes at least. Not the freacking plot FF they always give us with a plot wild card.

Pd: RIP Ramsey Bolton. The best field commander in GOT. All his planning was brilliant. In line with his feat dispaching Stannis army with 20 good men.

Well, if you're equating my (over)use of the word badass as me simply liking "flashy" things or this episode simply relying on "all flash no substance" then I must respectfully disagree, sirrah. I was simply trying to succinctly write down all the amazing story points while conveying my excitement for said story points. I don't think enjoying a character who has been hailed as "Mother of Dragons" for five seasons actually climbing on a dragon and using it to decimate an enemy as a negative. It's the fulfillment of a promise to viewers since Daeny walked outta Drogo's pyre back in season one. What's more, it's significant to the world of GoT in itself as it's the first time in centuries (I think that's right.) a Targaryen has used a dragon to win a battle.  Likewise, the Battle of Winterfell was equally engaging if not much more emotionally draining. Jon and Sansa, both Stark if not by name then by upbringing, fight this battle in very different ways. Jon, noble and headstrong, much like Ned, makes a critical error in the battle, which Sansa really did wrn him about the night before the battle. Then the cavalry literally rides in at (what we can only assume at this point) is due to an arrangement Sansa made with Baelish. I think this sets up some good drama to come for the fate of the North and raises as many questions as it answers. It's all very relevant and significant """"plot""" points that were previously set up coming to fruition in a way that's true to the characters and the setting/world of GoT.

And technically I never referred to Sansa as badass. I called her "gangsta," as in ruthless, which obviously. 

And if you didn't think the battle of Meereen had no thrills and that badassery is boring then I am sad for you because your world seems bereft of joy. If you can't enjoy an episode of show that's about a mythical land where dragons once conquered kingdoms actually using dragons to win a battle then I can't do nothin' for ya man. So that battle wouldn't have been just "ooh flashy things" to you if the show would have had shots focused more on retaliation by the masters' fleet against the dragons? I really think the lack of showing any retaliation can be explained by the fact it is plausible there would be no retaliation. These soldiers on the ships are most likely slaves or sellswords, no? I'm not sure about you, but I can totally understand the sight of three giant dragons burning a ship in seconds causing unconditional surrender. Sure, maybe you've got a few guys like Bob from purchasing who'd think himself all tough and shoot an arrow or two at the giant firebreathing dragons. But guys like Frank are assholes, and they would get tossed overboard quickly by their much more intelligent and survival savvy shipmates who don't want to burn to death.

And I think GoT is great in giving us consequences for actions and mistakes by characters. Characters we like suffer and lose a lot in this show. A character like Jon doing something dumb and not dying for once is indeed cause for celebration. A good guy got lucky this time instead of an asshat. I don't think that's bad writing, especially the way that whole battle played out. Besides, the "universe" owed Jon one for him getting killed for doing the right thing last season.

And I'm trying really hard to be the shepherd, Ringo. But when you "RIP" sadistic dickbags like Ramsay you make it damn near impossible.

(FYI: Ramsay would not be badass in my book.) 

On 6/19/2016 at 9:19 PM, Señor de la Tormenta said:

. . . .A 6. The fighting scenes were the only thing good.

 

I cant believe how many people are giving 10s. They just buy flashy lights.

Full on Khalessi badassery. Triple dragon badassery. Dothraki charge badassery. Bolton badassery. Jun Jun badassery. Jon dumbassery then more dumbassery then finally badassery. Gangsta Sansa. Not to mention great little character moments like the Greyjoy, Lannister, Targaryn v2.0 alliance, Sansa giving Jon the very best advice anyone could (which beautifully set up the tension of the battle), and Davos Sherlocking what happened to Shereen. I almost gave the episode a 9/10, but after thinking about it I had to go 10/10 for all the reasons I listed above. 

9/10

I have not read book 5 yet so Jon's death(?) was an absolute shock to me. Fucking Olly, man. Also everything with Arya and Stannis was cray. Total cray.

I'm curious, could people not rating this a 10/10 list an episode from the series which would rank 10/10 for them?

11/10

The scale is insufficient.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/06/Spinal_Tap_-_Up_to_Eleven.jpg

Yes! This person knows what time it is.

The last twenty minutes...I am still processing it. I was watching it on HBO GO and had to pause it twice just because there was so much going on and I needed time to absorb it. I really thought Jon was gone there for a second, like legitimately then the shattering into a bajillion ice crystals.

9/10: Two of the big missing moments from S3E9 were in this episode for me (Ygritte and the arrows; Rob and his final "march"). Also, the utter destruction of the Northern camps outside the wedding was shown in a very spectacular way this episode. Khaleesi's moment at the end of the episode wasn't as spectacular as the last two seasons, but it was still pretty good. And that small council meeting--badass!

9.5 only because Cat didn't claw her face, which would have made it so much more powerful.

I'm kinda w/ you here, but not just b/c of the non-hysterical Cat. I agree w/ Linda's video review of the episode--there just wasn't that build up in the show like in the novel. I think they could've given the entire episode over to the RW and achieved that though. I really wish they could do an "extended directors cut" of the episode and give the RW a bit better of a build up. D&D got close though. The Jon, Bran, and Dany parts of the episode were handled wonderfully though. I voted this one a 9.