SerJeremiahLouistark

I loved how my favorite character was paid tribute to over and over in this episode. This episode paid homage to Ned Stark so many times. Cersei saying she knows Ned Stark's son will be true to his word. Jon saying he knows that telling the truth got his father killed but that he stayed true to himself. Jon and Theon's talk was partially about Ned and how he was a part of both of them. LF's trial, he was found guilty of betraying Ned, and then the talk between the girls on the Wall, they miss their father and they quoted him. Sansa passed the sentence Arya swung the sword and no one diverted their eyes. Father will know if you don't look. And then Bran learning his father made that sacrifice for Jon. Betraying Robert, keeping his word to Lyanna, lying to his wife, publicly dishonoring himself when in fact what he did was the most honorable thing he could do. That's what I liked about this episode.

5/10 it was entertaining no doubt and to an unsullied it was probably higher but I just can't get over how inconsistent this series has become.

Eh it was about Arya so I played 6 degrees. Luke and Vader had spaceships too with light speed capability, does Varys have a portkey?

So how does Arya and Varys travel the entire realms of Westeros and Essos in the blink of an eye and Jaime makes it back to KL but Brienne and Pod can't make it to Winterfell?

The winners make their own history, I doubt she is taking any credit for the destruction of the sept and all those people, but Oleanna seems to know she did it, so I imagine most will as well. I think the more important thing is this: Strictly show results Martells - eradicated Baratheons - eradicated (at least until we find out what happens with Gendry) Tyrells - unless Oleanna has another child which is highly unlikely, eradicated. Lannisters - only 3 remain. Targs - 2 remain Starks - 3 remain, 1 boy who cannot father children. The big question is will Jon accept the Targ name or will he be a Stark.

Bran?

I may be mixing up book with show, I could have sworn Edmure was told he would be basically a hostage at Casterly Rock.

I sure hope so, imagine Jon having all the northern houses United, along with the Vale, Howland Reed and the Crannogmen, and then the BwB. Dany and company are natural allies being Tyrion and Jon spent some QT together at the wall, and oh I almost forgot, Dany is Jon's aunt, which would also mean the Greyjoys are on their side as well, for whatever that is worth, the Tyrell's, the whatever they are's in Dorne. The Lannisters are on borrowed time, I think back to the conversation between Cersei and Ned and the love for their children, and here we are, Cersei may still be alive and Ned and Cat gone, but Ned still has (in the show) 3 living children and 1 child raised as his son, an actual son of the man she so wanted to marry, and to the woman she could NEVER be and all of Cersei's children are dead, the 1st because he was a monster, the 2nd because she was a Lannister and the 3rd by his own hand. Cersei indirectly killed all 3 of the children she loved so much. Ned Stark died to save his daughters, Cersei pretty much got all of her children killed. I really hope Jaime gets killed too, did anyone notice they said Edmure was back in a cell at the Twins? What happened to that promise Jaime made him about living at Casterly Rock?

Benjen couldn't have at least left them the horse? How the hell is Meera supposed to get Bran anywhere?

Speaking of that where the fuck is Ghost?

I don't think it will change anything between them. Ned raised him as his son. He still has Stark blood in his veins. She still blames herself for her father's death. She won't betray him, though I think we will see a strain and those seeds planted by Baelish, in the end though I think it won't matter.

That conflict is going to be driven by Baelish who is trying like a mother fucker to drive a wedge between them. He started in one of the earlier episodes. I hate that son of a bitch.

Good point but what is a bastard? The product of infidelity? Or is it the baby of 1 noble and 1 low born parent? How do we know Rhaegar and Lyanna weren't married? And even if they weren't, Jon is the child of 2 nobles. I'm not real sure what constitutes a bastard. I always thought it was infidelity but I'm not real sure.

Royce

At least we know Sansa doesn't trust him. His ambition is to have the Iron Throne. Cersei is now on that throne. That was surprising I didn't expect that at all. I won't feel good about any of this until Baelish is dead.

Isn't Jon a better candidate for the iron throne being a son of Rhaegar? Wouldn't Jon be the natural choice?

Qyburn is hand of the Queen. He had the broach on. I completely agree about the KL scene. It was very well done, the music and the mood and the way it was shot was some of the best television I've ever seen.

Where did Varys get Floo powder or a port key? Tommens death was the most anticlimactic King death of all time. Sansa should have had Baelish's head chopped off, fuck that dude, he is still a worm and I'll rejoice when he gets his comeuppance. And Arya must have some Floo powder or a port key too.

R + L = J

Frey pies FTW!!!

That's the only reason for keeping them a secret. No one died because Sansa didn't say anything about the Vale, that's ludicrous. Rickon was dead either way. She knew that apparently Jon didn't. What good would it have done if she told Jon the Vale was coming? Ramsay wouldn't have met them in the field, Winterfell would have been under Seige, and then what? They would have lost more men, men would have left and abandoned their cause. She was the only one that didn't underestimate Ramsay and what she did won that battle like it or not.

That was Smalljon.

She knew he was dead. Nothing could have changed that. She kept the Vale a secret because she knew Jon was underestimating Ramsay. What happens if she announces it and Jon shows up with an even amount of men or more? Ramsay flees behind Winterfell's walls and the Seige begins. Sansa used her head for once on this one.

That's what I want to know. Hopefully Sansa is playing him.

Did anyone else get chills when the Bolton banners fell and the Stark banners were put back up? Damn that was satisfying.