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I gave it an 8 as well. It was a good episode overall although I was underwhelmed by the ending. I was certain it would end with magic of sorts. Oh well...

:lmao: Agreed! "Oh Satin how I love thy beauty, how sorely it will be miss..." -Love Jon

I suppose we'll just have to agree to disagree. IMO Kit's acting was off, standing there gawking (with no emotional facial expressions) while she's been pierced by an arrow is not emotional to me. But to each it's own.

I dono know, they probably wanted to end the season with Stannis' triumphant arrival to save the Nights Watch, but they really could have done that in this episode. I'm sure it'll be a great scene next week, however, moving it to such a jam-packed episode will diminish it's importance IMHO.

Agree with each and everyone of these. Especially the first one and the fourth one.

It was actually a very emotional scene in the books: "He found Ygritte sprawled across a patch of old snow beneath the Lord Commander’s Tower, with an arrow between her breasts. The ice crystals had settled over her face, and in the moonlight it looked as though she wore a glittering silver mask. The arrow was black, Jon saw, but it was fletched with white duck feathers . Not mine, he told himself, not one of mine. But he felt as if it were. When he knelt in the snow beside her, her eyes opened. “Jon Snow,” she said, very softly . It sounded as though the arrow had found a lung. “Is this a proper castle now? Not just a tower?” “It is.” Jon took her hand. “Good,” she whispered. “I wanted t’ see one proper castle, before … before I …” “You’ll see a hundred castles,” he promised her. “The battle’s done . Maester Aemon will see to you.” He touched her hair. “You’re kissed by fire, remember? Lucky. It will take more than an arrow to kill you. Aemon will draw it out and patch you up, and we’ll get you some milk of the poppy for the pain.” She just smiled at that. “D’you remember that cave? We should have stayed in that cave. I told you so.” “We’ll go back to the cave,” he said. “You’re not going to die, Ygritte. You’re not.” “Oh.” Ygritte cupped his cheek with her hand. “You know nothing, Jon Snow,” she sighed, dying."

Magnificent, really? There is no need to compare these two, however, comparing someone banishing their adviser/friend after a betrayal (which I though was a solid piece of acting) and having the only woman you ever loved die in your arms is the wrong comparison. If you want to do an apples to apples comparison you have to compare it to Dany smothering Drogo at the end of Season 1 http://youtu.be/4zAFHETSTJo Now, that was emotional.

I know! Shoot wish I had that kind of memory. It's hard enough trying to remember what happened last well. :p Even Rose was a bit off, don't know if it was because of Kit or because she was just off but there was little emotional appeal to that scene.

Absolutely! He takes the time to inter weave a very complex story which is amazing but he does (understandably) take a long time and I want to know what happens. I'm impatient. :D Anyhow, back to the episode. I really liked the Aemon scene were he discusses his past. It was sort of lovely.

Oh really? I don't mind spoilers, I had scene the series before I read the books. Doesn't bother me much. Honestly, I appreciate GRRM but he writes to slow and I really want to know what happens. :p

Of course and killing them both helps shorten that storyline for next year when Jon is LC. They have a lot to compact next season, Jon has 13 chapters they'll need to condense into one season as I'm almost sure they'll have the stabbing by the end of next season.

It more about having a complete and overall finished episode. The anticlimactic ending could have been easily resolved by having the Stannis storyline in the epidote. People might have complained about there not being enough Stannis, however, I personally would have been satisfied that they had an overall complete story for the episode. Now, Stannis will come next week and I'm sure it'll be fine but it won't have the emotional appeal it could have had had it been done this episode. There will be a lot of things going on in the finale and this will just be one amongst many.

I understand they were trying to rev up the emotional appeal! but that was harsh.

Exactly had they added the additional time they'll be using in the last episode (65 min) to end this episode properly it would have been an excellent episode. I think it is legitimate most poster have a legitimate complaint about the abruptness of the ending and the lack of Stannis.

Oh definitely, I really did like the episode but I do have some legitimate (legitimate) qualms about it. What you mentioned and Ghost were some of my favorite things and Jon did well overall. However, having an anticlimactic ending and a so so Ygritte death scene took away from the episode.

We know that happens, however, had Jon gone earlier in the episode to meet with Mance and then thy ended the episode with Stannis arrival it would have made the episode overall much better.

Exactly! Even with the poor acting it would have been so much better if it had been done earlier. I honestly felt that the death scene was very dry. There was no anguish in Kit's face and even Rose Leslie who is usually excellent didn't really sell it.