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  1. Haven't been on in forever, had to log back in to say how bad of an episode this was. I'll start with what I enjoyed, the slow this is inevitable and preplanned feeling of the night king killing viserion. Really good parallel to the frantic scenes, shock, and disbelief when Bronn shot drogon. I'm also hoping that those scenes and others this episode imply that the red god is possibly aligned with/ helped set up that ambush for the white walkers (possibly to get the dragon and try to take out some of humanities greatest soldiers??). Everything else was awful, not the time or place for benjen to show up and die we will never know any more of his story now, tormund should have died in that scene brutal but would have been GoT to the max, jorah should have died (my choice would have been taking benjens place as jons savior, with longclaw in hand then pulling those two little girly Rast knives for his last stand after putting Jon on a horse home.), Sansa sending Brienne, for what reason since if they bring the wight to kings landing Jon would be there to represent the north. Baelish doing nothing to further his own power at all these days after supposedly being behind almost every little thing in the previous history ever. I'm forgetting a few but I'm sure you get the point and lots of intelligent people have already explained all of it better then me on here. Do the writers assume the audience to be that stupid. Based on the decisions they've made this season, like the fact they expect us to believe the A-team was sent north to bring a wight back down to Cersei Lannister (who blew up a huge group of people recently) so everyone who was at war can hangout and have a discussion about teaming up, I guess that's a yes. Just disappointed to go from "wow this is pretty good for a show based off an exceptional book series" to right around that Shireen burning "wow this is going in it's own direction, but as it's own thing it's a good show" to "wow this is a bad show where I need to suspend my beliefs and my attention to detail" which is what I come to expect of most TV, but again it's supposed to be Game of Thrones, not CSI: Miami or Fast and Furious.
  2. Also another unsullied thing worth pointing out, most of my unsullied friends thought that Sansa/ Theon jump was them committing suicide.
  3. Watched the show with my unsullied friends. Decent number of them said they wouldn't watch the show next season because they felt like there's no characters left that they really care about, and if they did have a character they still liked they don't seem them getting anywhere good by the end of the last two seasons or didn't care enough to keep watching because so many characters are dead. I'm a book reader, Still enjoy the show, just thought that was semi interesting and worth pointing out.
  4. 6. The Stannis scene, up until the random Brienne in a middle of a battlefield here to kill you, felt very true to show Stannis. After he sacrificed his daughter and his wife was dead and all that he was always going to march on to winterfell and that last almost smile and pulling of the sword as boltons army closed in felt appropriate to the show version of Stannis. Walk of shame felt too long for what was a packed episode/ Ungregor face could be seen a bit and he looked like a dumb zombie. Felt they should have shortened aspects of the scene and filled that time with an update on Marge & Loras so we know something going into next season. Arya scene was fine. Sansa scene was fine besides the ridiculous jump you'd never survive (and ironically had just shown someone dying from that height). Dorne was more cartoony sand snakes standing around looking as badass as they can. If they aren't executed by Doran beginning of next season I'll be ridiculously confused. Why were they even allowed to come see the Kingslayer team off? They had recently tried to kill them but hey we're all good now so we're gonna tag along to say bye and not be checked for weapons/ poison? And nobody will notice me quickly apply poison to my lips and kiss the girl I recently tried to kill? No one stopped to think hey Trystane heir to Dorne is on the boat with people loyal to the princess were killing (and Arianne isn't in the show so we don't have a replacement for him)? Ridiculous it was all so ridiculous. FTW didn't have that reasoning behind it that made it make more sense with the pink letter gone and everything, none of the nights watch guys seemed sad or were crying or anything like that so the scene really lost a lot of that conflicted sadness emotions when it goes down.
  5. The siege of Castle Black is not a peaceful affair, it isn't even as peaceful as most sieges where a force could just starve out a castle. Mance is besieging from only one side and is trying to escape an enemy so he needs to get across quickly. The Wildlings are constantly attacking even after the initial failed assault, in the books Jon Snow leads the defense against multiple assaults by the Wildlings. A siege, specifically this siege, is almost a constant state of warfare. In the show however it is made to look like one big battle followed by, based on the promo for next week, Jon and Mance making peace and teaming up only for Stannis to show up and slaughter a bunch of people who are just waiting around.
  6. Theres a battle raging when Stannis arrives and its made pretty clear he just saved Castle Black from being overwhelmed in the books. In the show based on this episode and the preview for the next episode it looks like there won't be any fighting going on when Stannis arrives, just Jon and Mance about to team up and head out and all of a sudden Stannis arrives and genocides a bunch of now "good" wildlings.
  7. Theres a battle raging when Stannis arrives and its made pretty clear he just saved Castle Black from being overwhelmed in the books. In the show based on this episode and the preview for the next episode it looks like there won't be any fighting going on when Stannis arrives, just Jon and Mance about to team up and head out and all of a sudden Stannis arrives and genocides a bunch of now "good" wildlings.
  8. This episode and the preview for the next one locks in what I've said about TV Stannis since the beginning. He is one of the shows villians, he's not going to save the wall. Jon Snow will be negotiating with Mance about bringing the Wildlings across because the Others are coming and then boom Stannis heavy cavalry comes in and massacres a bunch of Wildlings. It's sad the show watchers are doing this with a character like Stannis but I am very confident in my analysis at this point.
  9. 7 for me. It was a decent episode that had all my friends texting and talking about the end but I had two problems with it. First, Sansa is making Littlefinger look like puddy in her hands, he doesn't even give off a hint of intelligence in his scenes and he's barely "trained" Sansa yet, it's just odd. Second, the duel didn't feel as epic as it should have, I wanted to see some kind of emotions on the faces in the crowd, give us a sad Bronn, a flicker of fear go across Tywins face with an Oberyn staring at him while questioning Gregor. Jaime smiled then frowned that was it.
  10. I agree with this assessment pretty much, one of my favorite episodes of the season so far . There wasn't any scene that I hated and ruined the episode for me. The Tyrion/Oberyn and Littlefinger/ Sansa/ Lysa scenes were great and well acted. I assumed they changed the "Only Cat" quote because their worried show viewers might not realize who Cat is when he says it so the viewers won't feel that oh shit that poor ugly sister moment before he killed Lysa.
  11. Season 4 just isn't a great season, its a lull in the storm, but the books themselves are the same way. The material in the books after the purple wedding was just meh and all a build up for Winds atleast to me it felt like that. The shows trying to throw in things like Crasters with Bran and Asha attacking the Dreadfort to spice it up and keep it interesting because the book material itself at this point in the story isn't all that interesting and good for TV material.
  12. The gold mines comment was an interesting little moment in the show. It gave me cause, as a book reader, to contemplate the meaning of it. Besides that point I'm a 6 for the episode. Overall the episode felt pretty flat in my opinion. Craster's Keep battle went pretty much exactly as I thought it was going to with Bran not meeting Jon and Locke dying. Cersei is plotting and scheming again and took up way too much screen time doing it. The writing for show Tywin seems to get worse and worse every episode. Overall just a meh episode.
  13. I disagree. Think that whole Locke story is going to wrap up with whatever happens with this whole Crasters Keep/ Jon/ Bran story in the next couple episodes.
  14. That kid at the wall saying he's good with bows and we know Ygritte killed his dad. He's killing Ygritte for sure and I'm going to love it.
  15. This was my favorite episode so far this season, like come on Ser Pounce was in it! In all seriousness though pretty good episode with a lot of interesting material that I'm happy to have on the show that tied in nicely with the books. The whole Others thing at end was... Interesting I guess I'm not sure how I feel about it. Horse guy potentially coldhands?
  16. I agree on the pie thing. I had a moment of "wait what it's the pie but what about...." And then he yelled for Tyrion
  17. This isn't the appropriate thread for who is the legal heir of Westeros. I don't understand how people can argue against Stannis fans being upset on how poorly the character has been portrayed on TV. I just watched him burn a man for being an "infidel". What they've done to Stannis would be the equivalent of making Theons character have no love for the Starks or love for Robb. It took away a whole aspect of Stannis character and made him something he's not.
  18. Lots of people do enjoy the character though and seeing such a character portrayed so poorly is sad. Burning a man alive for treason is terrible but burning a man alive for being an "infidel" is a whole different level of wrong.
  19. He's a pretty widely liked character based off these boards at least. I don't even like him that much I just think that Stannis has been so poorly written on the show without any aspects of his character that it's sad to see such a character go to waste.
  20. He is definitely a hypocrite and in my opinion fairly unlikeable but still an interesting and complex character who is enjoyable to read about. The character on the show is nothing like him.
  21. That episode literally changes nothing. I'm not even that big of a Stannis fan but the TV creators have gone to an extreme to make him unlikeable, for frankly no reason.
  22. This one hundred percent. I may actually stop watching the show. I was never one of the hardcore Stannis fans (I'm one of the few who liked/ supported Renly) but to see such a great and dynamic book character become this on the show is despicable.
  23. As a book reader I had some huge problems with this episode. The two biggest were... 1) Tyrion and Shae's scene. Either Shae is truly gone now, which ruins so many things. If things still play out in a similar fashion how will they handle the Shae murder? I just don't see how this can play out well at all. 2) Stannis Baratheon. This was actually my first time being upset at how show Stannis has been portrayed (I know many Stannis fans have been upset for awhile). He killed Florent in the books for betraying him by trying to make a deal with Kings Landing, still a questionable execution I disagreed with but nothing like the crazy religious reason we saw on the show, Florent remained a follower of the seven so he's killed. I don't even see a reason for the change besides to portray Stannis in an even darker light.
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