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I did Sorry not on purpose. I rated this one a 5 myself, but had to alter my score for the first from 5 to 4 because of the missing giants. So... corrected at present results: 33...1 19...2 27...3 23...4 33...5 24...6 27...7 28...8 40...9 28...10 total votes 282, total score 1606 => average 5.69 / 10 , 47.8% voted between 1-5.

at present: 33...1 19...2 27...3 22...4 32...5 23...6 28...8 40...9 38...10 => 50.7 % rated it between 1-5, average score is 4.87/10 at the moment.

The average rating for the poll in this thread was 6.1 the first two days and now stands at 5.9. Most polls of previous episodes this season had an average of 7. and something. So, that's a marked drop. In general the polls for this season have a lower average rating than previous season and the season before it. Compared to the ratings by those same critics of other episodes this season the 82% rating is an improvement. Most of the previous episodes got 97% and even 100% ratings with no criticism at all, but just "wow ravings" to sub-par writing.

jumped the shark for me in S5 when Brienne said they'd go around Moat Cailin, but it now jumped the dragon with chains for sure!

I always start my rating at 0 and show has to earn its points. This episode is imo based on outrageous plot decisions: wight hunt for Cersei + prolonging LF's life until the end of the season more like + ridiculous teleporting. Dany + Tyrion scene in map room was long and boring, and where was Varys and Missandei. 0 points, enough said. M7 Beyond the Wall: the convos on the way over were good and entertaining. They seeded and referenced loads of meta-stuff, both Sandor and Gendry. 1 point. Polar bear: good characterization, brutal, with Thoros being mauled and Sandor freezing over the burning polar bear. And several redshirts died. 1 point. Wight capture: I liked this one a lot. 1 point. Gendry running for raven (wtf didn't Jon think of bringing ravens in the first place?) + the whole battle at ice lake was ruined for me with raven + Dany flying dragons to beyond the Wall in 1 day. Only redshirts died in this. D&D altered what can kill a wight (they admitted they changed this from canon lore from the books): apparently they were fighting with dragonglass... which they never actually have the characters confirm verbally. And it just looks stupid, they can kill a skeleton with dragonglass. Not only was this battle immensely contrived with plot armor, they upped the ante by having wights carrying and using weapons, which is another deviation from the evidence in the books. So far, only one wight used a weapon in the books, which was an accidental latch on of a wight's hand onto the haft of a dagger of a NW brother and planted it in the gut. The wight in questin was already headless, so it was no more than muscle memory. Wights throttle or disembowel with bare hands. So, no usage of chains either. WTF did they get such chains from anyway? The free folk? Rubbish. Gah, and then they just made it more contrived with Jon falling in the ice lake, and Benjen making his sacrifice. Also, I should retract a point of episode 1 which I had given a 5 (so that should be a 4/10 for epi 1): they showed at least 3 looming giants walking in that army of the dead, but all of a sudden there aren't any giants in sight? They could have pulled their weight with those chains, ya know. They did manage to make me empathize with Viserion. He was always the nicest dragon. And that ice spear was brutal. NK having an ice dragon is cool (especially since most of the time I'm on #teamWW for the show. Oh, and Jon seems to have learned something from the BatB: he wanted to go for the NK, but stopped in his tracks and called a retreat. For all of that: 1 point. Winterhell plot: again I find the premisse of this plot ridiculous. Just a heart to heart with Royce would give Sansa enough to have him executed along with everything else she knows. That said, I actually liked the confrontations. And yes, Arya seemed overkill in the last scene, but she did give the dagger to Sansa. Words are wind, it are the actions that count. 1 point Jon-Dany scene: no points for all that hamfisted sweetness is just bad for my teeth. So, 5/10

4 seasons of Black Sails, a prequel to the book of Treasure Island. Starts off cliche-like and seemingly disjointed, but the further you get into the story and then do a rewatch the better those prior seasons become. Best TV show since euhm decades. Outdid Rome for me. Oh and they establish timeline and how long it takes to travel from here to there, and meticulously use that established journey time whenever they do a time jump, even in one epsiode. Only show that managed to make me mourn a character for days. Just couldn't stop crying. And no fan service or fan catering. Just sticking to the consequences of a character's past choices, no matter how harsh, no matter how loved a character is by fans. And several women in their cast you end up rooting or respecting or admiring, no matter what awful things they did (as much as the men). You love and you hate the characters. They're all villains. But by the end of S2 you realize you've pump-fisted or rooted for all of them at some point in the story. You may know 2 actors in Black Sails from the GOT cast: the actor Luke Robert who played Arthur Dayne is part of the cast for 2 seasons as governor Woodes who went down in history as the man who ended the Golden Age of piracy, and Tom Hopper who played Dickon Tarly is part of the cast for 4 seasons as Billy Bones (the fictional captain who was once part of Captain Flint's crew and has the treasure map at the start of the book). But you've got Ray Stevenson as Edward Teach (Blackbeard), a stellar Toby Stephens as Flint, discovery Luke Arnolds as Long John Silver (superb character transformation). And the writers wrapped it all up in 4 seasons at their own pace. They could have done a season more by Starz, but the story was told. And they leave in some mistery, not giving you the answers on every betrayal or save, leaving it to you to decide which character betrayed whom or how a character managed to survive (or not). Re-watch rewards you with the clues. Also puts a fresh spin on the jounrey that made the Treasure Island characters what and who they are, sort of making them unreliable narrators in Treasure Island. Just talking about it, makes me want to put the DVD back on and do a re-watch. I will not though while GOT season 7 is not yet finished, because it hurts to make the comparison at present and is a constant reminder how bad GOT has become in storytelling. If I'd re-watch Black Sails now, I wouldn't give ANY episode of GOT more than 1/10.

2/10 for me. Torturous dragging out the lives of characters with illogic ridiculous invented plots that are incredibly lazily written. 1 point for looking pretty. 1 point for Sandor and Gendry.

This episode has been the best since the end of S4, certainly if you divorce it from the plot issues leading to this episode. However, I will not divorce it entirely from the illogic or set-up plot contrivances, nor will I change my grading method. Starting at 0, they've got to earn it. Highgarden intro: The Bronn-Jaime exchange about castles is gettign old and only reminds me of Stokeworth and the inane decision by Bornn to go to Porne. No points. WF Bran-LF: LF's greating accent and only reminding me that they're keeping him alive for faux-tension. No points. WF Bran-Meera: Kudoz to the actress who plays Meera. The scene obviously serves to explain Bran's change, but only reminds me that they failed in showing the change in S6, and it's clear the send off to HR is nonsensical, and D&D don't know what to do with her. 1 point for Meera's heartfelt speech. WF Arya-guards: a repeat of S1 guards scene at the Red Keep, which was a better scene. The Northern guards being such fould mouthed jerks did not come off as realistic. I guess it was to show how Arya changed in the sense she can keep her cool now. It actually spoiled the taking in WF from the yard by Arya for me. No points. WF crypt scene between Sansa and Arya, and the scene with Bran: good. The hugs, but also distance, and exchange and finally Arya thawing. This one was good. 1 point. WF Podrick-Brienne: I could have done without it. Brienne did almost nothing to be proud of. She didn'tt have anything to do with Arya's safety and she chose to kill Stannis over Sansa and still managed to help Sansa, without consequences in S6. No points. Dragonstone the cave: Pfff, they shoot this shot of the whole cave and try to make it seem as if its magnificent or impressive, but well it was all black. Couldn't see a damn thing. Dany's line about fighting for the North only if they kneel and projecting her own personal pride onto Northerners made roll my eyes at Dany and reminded me of Stannis. At least he knew what was a priority. And I don't see the chemistry, though it's hamfisted in there. No points. Dragonstone impromptu council meeting: Tyrion getting berated. Hell yes! I see no conflict with Jon's advice and Dany's battle. She engaged soldiers far away from citizens, not cities, no castles. 1 point for tapping Tyrion on his fingers. WF Arya-Brienne duel: they tried to make it somewhat realistic with the dagger and the dodging. But needle blocking and parrying against a broadsword, with petite Arya against the Brute was ridiculous and unrealistic. And Arya didn't actually get any sword training in Braavos to be able to beat a top tier warrior like that. It was a fan-service scene, but well the Brute needed a lesson. And the tension of the scene, including as Sansa watched it, and Podrick eyeing the Brute dismayed when she kicked Arya, make me give it 1 point. If Arya had been fighting with a rapier and dagger in both hands already, this scene would have gotten a 2. Dragonstone Missy, Jon, Davos, Theon: I like natural setting scenes. It doesn't seem like a plot relevant convo, and Naathi not having marriages is a D&D invention. But it does service imo GRRM's point about "trueborn" versus "bastard" - a social construct that is more a superstition than anything else, and certainly George won't give a F- if someone is trueborn or not. Jon's angry reaction with Theon was withing character. Theon's actions led partly to Robb's downfall. 1 point The Battle: Everything was good about this. And no I don't have logistical issues with this. The army was at the Blackwater Rush, and the Dothraki could have been shipped to Massey's Hook for example to meet with Jaime's army that had to travel back from Highgarden. Yes, there was fan service in this one too, but it fit the characters. BotB was tactical nonsense to me. Hardhome was ok, but the rapid skeletons and cheesy woman-can't-kill-zombie-children ruined it for me. This battle had no such issues. Tactical deployment on both sides was logical and tightly done. It may be the best battle scene to date. 3 points. Doesn't get anymore, because the precision fires shows it's nonsensical to argue that Dany shouldn't fly to the Red Keep and take out Cersei there. Wow... I never thought I'd end up giving an 8 to an episode anymore.

Gave it 1, because the sole good thing I can think of for this episode was that it looked pretty.

Confirms my suspicion. I always found Varys's speech to Kevan about fAegon and him going on about the "people" as something that fits Machiavelli's ideas about a Prince uniting regions into one giant empire. Macchiavelli advocated a political system where an absolute monarch had the power without having to cow-tow to feudal noble lords. The Medicis in France and Henry VIII in England pretty much used Machiavelli's ideas to gain total power and make it one country and it was the beginning of the end of feudalism. They weren't dependent of old noble houses anymore, but could levy armies of people directly. The war that Varys helps to bring about all over Westeros certainly aims to do that. It is also Tywin's tactc. Aegon "Egg" was frustrated over the same issue. He wanted totalitarian power for himself so he could rule for the people, but the great houses and feudal lords had too much power. And there are literary links between Varys and Egg.

Gave it a 3. As always since they jumped the shark for me in S5 when they had a character wave off inconvenient geography for plot reasons (Brienne saying "we'll just go around Moat Cailin) I start at 0 for every episode. The Varys monologue and confrontation was an actual good character moment +1 (not getting more for the obvious glaring flaws with the rest of the scene). Nymeria-Arya: +1 (not getting more for making Nymeria hostile at the start, and apparently for many the "That's not you" ended up confusing a whole lot of viewers, either concluding it's not Nymeria or it not being audible) Battle action scene: +1 for the action (not getting more, because I don't give an f about anyone on those ships, the complete nonsense of Euron being able to surprise Yara's fleet, and it being a night scene. And no a show doesn't get brownie points from me for killing off characters they wrote so badly that everyone would prefer to forget they ever existed on the show. I've seen way better sea-battle scenes than this one. Nor do they get points for calling Victarion Euron.) The rest is immensely contrived plot with huge plot holes so that even Tyrion has to wave away the camera of showing the table map too much in order for the audience not to realize that Unsullied can only get to CR by the same sailing route as Yara, and characters having lost their brains while teleporting. exposition dialogue (partially aimed to hail Saint Tyrion). Good for Tom Hopper he was the one who ended up being re-cast for Dickon Tarly, but Tarly even being in KL for Cersei with his heir in that throne room is more nonsense. I can figure why Tom Hopper was cast: as Billy Bones in Black Sails he could make great WTF and "Oh shit" faces. Guess that would be perfect for a BBQ moment coming to you real soon.

I was very generous. Since S5 "let's go around Moat cailin" I start with 0 expectation. So an episode starts at 0/10 for me. All the massive glarling nonsense gets 0 points for me: The Frey mass killing, Bran's dialogue to prove he's Bran Stark to Edd Tollett (and I should have been over the moon that Edd had a speaking line) and Meera having carried him that far, Sansa-Jon clunky dialogue and Feisty Mormont fan-service. Cersei-Jaime-Euron nonsense, Sam montage + rediscovering what he already knew and forgot to tell Jon 2 seasons ago. I recognized Ed Sheeran (but don't have an issue with his cameo) and I could see right through the writers' intentions of the Lannister soldier scene, but it still worked for me. It was a nice scene, until the other guy asked Arya whether she was old enough to drink. +1 The Hound. Now that was a proper scene, in character and already established interaction and good reconnection scene with Sandor stealing the father's silver in S4. It totally pulled me in and the gravedigging made me smile, including the Sandorspeak. I know digging into frozen ground is impossible, that Sandor's Stranger is nowhere to be seen, and that it's curious that Sandor can see in the flames better than Mel, but the character consistency made me feel as if I was actually watching something worthwhile. So +2 Dany's arrival at Dragonstone. I did have to remind myself not to think on the massive stupidity of it being completely abandoned for 2 years and nobody ooccupying it, and Dany entering without recon kindof threw me off. But I did appreciate the moment of her touching her home soil. For one of the rarest moments since S1, Dany's show arc actually made me simpathize with her, as well as made my heart ache over Stannis too. So, +1 I should have given it a 4/10, but being in a good mood after the Hound's scenes I gave it an extra +1 for the WW CGI with the giants (no, I don't think that was Wun Wun, 'cause there were several more giants in the background) and thus 5/10.

I'd say the "lace". He ain't who he says he is But we kind of knew that already, right?

I'd say Myrish stuff isn't just "lie" but "false" and "falsehood", which can be the same at times but Myrish carpets are a "cover up", Myrish lenses give a "false perception" (which is true in a physical sense even: while you perceive things better, seeing a right side up image through a lens is called a "virtual image". A "real image" is upside down). Lysa's letter as the message in a box with a Myrish lens. Taena is "false". Arbor Gold is about making someone swallow "words" of a lie. But Myrish stuff often appears in very elaborate long-term plans of falsehood and deception, some with harmful intent, some with self-protection intent, some with harmless intent. The slave Sweets is not as sweet, but the gender confusion Sweet create is of the harmless intent. Darry laying Myrish carpets in his room to cover up he still has Targ carpets is more out of self-protection. Anyhow whenever something Myrish or someone from Myr appears it's a tell-tale that not all is what it seems.

Well, take Samwell. He is referred to as a pig, but he's actually a hidden bear character who takes the fur of Jeor (the Old Bear) is "sacrificed" and elopes with a maiden (young girl sense, not virgin sense) who's carrying his cloak (marriage cloaking symbolism), after he was hunted from the Fist to Craster's. But then in his aFfC arc he's referred to as a whale instead. This coincides with his gradual betterment of learning to shoot bow and arrow (the hunting weapon bears despise the most). Pigs and boars have a direct linguistic association with bears, since a male bear can be referred to as a "boar", and a female bear can be called a "sow". The same association for bull and cow can be applied to dragons, as male dinosaurs and komodo dragons are called bulls and the femals cows. Jaime is a "lion", but he's hunted like a bear, losing his hand (several alluded background bear figures lose a foot or hand or have a clubfoot). He "steals" a maiden from Harrenhal, the moment an actual bear dies. Qhorin is described much in a way you can associate him with a "horse" (his braided hair and thin long face). And yet he dies, sacrificing himself, after Jon stole Ygritte (according to her), whle kept under bowshot after they emerged from a "cave". At the very least we have bear-hunt motif and environmental stuff going on. And Val wears bearskins, first brown, then white, with the raven calling Jon a "thief". The KL bull Gendry becomes the captured hidden bear smith in the woods. He still has to steal his maiden. Bull is also the alternative name for a male deer, aka a stag. I agree the stag can be the equivalent of the sacrificial bear, as this certainly was the sacrificial animal in regions where the bear hunt was not prevalent, but similar euphemism for naming the animal and hunting rituals and celebrations exist. Deer after all just stems from PIE meaning "animal". This might explain Qhorin who's description fits a horse, a stallion can also be called a "stag" (in Scotland) for a young stallion, or might also be used to indicate an adult male animal that was castrated (Qhorin is NW and per his vows barred fro having a wife). And we forgot the "dog" earlier on too. Jaime directly compares the HH bear to Gregor Clegane with a pelt, hence Gregor Clegane is a bear without a pelt. He's a giant of a man, and later becomes Robert Strong. One of the euphemisms for a bear is "god's dog". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animal_names https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stag

the small eyes and flat nose? See Craster (the Ram), but also bears: bears have small eyes in comparison to their massive heads and flat noses as well...That's why we have Craster posing as a bear (living in den in the woods), but actually being a ram (with a harem of sheep and children as lambs). So, we have rams and goats posing as bear lords or lords over bears. Then we have pigs and boars who might actually be bullied bears. We have stags sacrificed like bears. And we also have whales, who are bears who hunt the hunter.

Gift = "poison" certainly seems a link George uses throughout the books. I'm not sure it's a pun or wordplay, but I'll list some of them Euron's gifts are poisoned Giving the "gift" with the FM is giving (merciful) death through poison The NW's Gift and especially Alysane's New Gift was a metaphorical poison for the North and the NW Sansa is "gifted" a hairnet that has poison to kill Joffrey, and while LF helps her escape KL she ends up in the Eyrie as one of LF's pawns, having to hide her identity and in his power as her protector because she's now wanted for aiding a kingslaying Joffrey received a Tyrell drinking cup as a wedding "gift", and believed to have been the vessel that contained the poison that killed him Another wedding "gift" had been Widow's Wail, and there are two widows wailing as Joffrey dies - Margaery and Cersei Tyrion and other stuff are Illyrio's "gift" to JonCon, but Tyrion plants the seed in Aegon's mind to conquer Westeros on his own without Daenerys. The belief in his success varies, but most readers do speculate that even if he manages to chase Cersei and her remaining child(ren) out of KL, he will come to a bad end against Dany Dany was also given wedding gifts: dragon eggs and her horse Silver. While on the one hand the dragons give her a martial benefit, they also come with a price. Viserys coveted those eggs and were partly what instigated or furthered the sibling relationship to become more antagonistic. While I have nothing good to say about Viserys and I'm glad he's dead, and it was great to see Dany come into her own in aGoT, she ended up not intervening in the execution of her mad downtrodden brother. Two of her dragons also end up burning Quentyn alive (who also presented himself as a gift from his father to her), and this is suspected to have its repercussions for her. Not sure about Silver, but the suspected Dothraki army might also have repercussions for her. The wine seller wants to "gift" Dany the poisoned wine. The attempt on her life prompts Drogo to go on attacking the Lhazareen where he's wounded (and eventually gangreen) and she acquired MMD whose magic costs Dany her son's life. Jorah was a gift to Viserys, but Jorah instead empowered Dany with self-confidence and turned away from Viserys. Jon's gifted Longclaw, that ends up stuck in the scabbard in his hour of need (though Jeor does say he "earned" it) Needle is Jon's secret gift to Arya. This prompted her to train with Mycah without anyone knowing it and without acquiring permission, which results in the Trident incident and eventually the loss of Nymeria and Lady's death. Jaime gives Oathkeeper to Brienne and a permit from Tommen, and these two items condemn her in the eyes of LS. Not sure anymore, but doesn't LF present Sansa as a type of gift to Lysa as well? Lysa gifts a Myrish lens to maester Luwin, in a box containing a poisoned message to stir up the fire of hatred between Starks and Lannisters As I said, Not sure that counts as a pun or wordplay. I'm good with metaphors and symbolism, because they pertain a visual aspect, evne if only in the mind. And I figure out puns and wordplay in a concrete context, but less good in them in an abstract manner. That is I can hear the auditive connections, but without seeing them in place in a scene, it sort of loses meaning to me. I appreciate @Seams for pointing out possibilities.

Nice one, especially when thinking how she comes face to face with a cannibal, who likes to chew people alive

The whole "what's the dog's name, and who owns him?" with Meribald explaining he calls him Dog and he's his own dog, and later on Brienne asking what the BwB did to Dog, and Gendry answering she killed him (meaning Rorge with the Hound helm), has allusions to the skit of Abbott and Costello, "Who's on first?"

it is!!!! Here's the "ugly duckling" essay that Seams and I refer to

Ah, but those three black swans have long been part of my ugly duckling analysis in the bear-maiden thread for Arya Especially because it says "she wants to be one" or "eat one".

She was an heir of a House. Her poisoning handicapped her - laughing stock in society, what sort of husband would she have, especially if she might not even carry children. She was doomed to be mocked, ill treated, and at least her step-mother had succeeded in making her an unsuitable heir for her father. FM gave her sanctuary, where she is not a laughing stock, but taken seriously and treated with respect, lifetime board, and she has a skill she's obviously proud of. Yes, her father and she would have been heartbroken over the separation, but it sounds like both father and waif ended up concluding it was for the best. And half of the inheritance still went to the FM to pay for the lifetime board. For the father the payment was not as high either, except the emotional cost: giving up his daughter, but his wife was mostly to blame for that. The reality was that his daughter was not the same daughter anymore. It would have pained him to see her scorned. It would have hurt his House to have her remain the heir. His daughter ended up having a life of meaning and he got to keep an heir, still give half of what was to the waif's to her caretakers, and keep the other half for his new heir. And he's rid of the evil woman who did that to a child. I'll bet that the FM asked the same price to the step-mother who had inquired with them: half the inheritance and your child. Of course for the step-mother the exact same price would have resulted in a null-operation for her. She wanted the waif dead so her child could inherit. But if her child was surrendered to the FM, that plan was pointless. That's why she decided to do it herself. If you realize the reality of what the waif's life would have been like outside of HoBaW, what it means to her father's house, and that it might even have resulted in a soured father-daughter relationship where he'd end up regarding hs daughter as an embarrassment and hindrance over time, and realize that the step-mother was out-manouvered by the FM when she first asked the price, then it becomes clear ot me that the FM asked for the dragon egg from Euron to neutralize his potential danger. They didn't want this mad man to have a dragon egg in his possession, especially once it became known that a Targaryen princess had birthed dragons from an egg. And in fact, to me Euron was telling the truth when he said he chucked that egg overboard and to the bottom of the sea, by request of the FM. Egg at the bottom of the sea => no dragon being born from that egg at least. Both this new chapter as previous chapters show full scale psychopathy for Euron. He'd probably score 40/40 on Hare's psychopathy scale and test. Psychopaths mix truth with falsehood, but not in a classic word way. The words about the egg are true, the falsehood is Euron turning it into a boast that he didn't give a rat's ass about chucking a potential dragon to the bottom of the ocean. The fact alone that Euron ends up telling this crazy story to Vic, which is quite unnecessary for him to tell, belies the "I didn't care" boasting behavior. There are enough hints that the Kindly Man is one of the true keyholders of Braavos. These are the real men of power in the city, because they carry the keys to the vaults of Braavos - people of the Iron Bank, in the Sealord's office (but not the Sealord himself I think), and the head of the FM for the vault of faces. With the FM having a keyholder that implies that FM fall in line with Braavos' higher purpose and goals - ban slavery or prevent slavery, dragons are not something to joke about. Arya as Blind Beth overhears Tyroshi slaver sailors talking about Hardhome, how easy it was to get a ship full of women and children for free to sell as slaves (and with Dany harming the market in Slaver's Bay, Hardhoome is a prize find for slavers). One ship limped into Braavos harbor and got empounded. One ship thought did escape the storm and probably did reach Tyrosh. That is the valuable info that Arya passes onto the Kindly Man: where the slaves came from (Hardhome) and that it's highly likely that one ship managed to get back to Tyrosh and spread the news to other slavers. While Tycho of the Iron Bank doesn't get a large fleet along with him, supposedly he's only there to deal with Stannis, and yet he deals with Jon Snow, lending money for food as well lend his 3 ships for the rescue mission of Hardhome, where the Braavosi sailors explicitly said "only women and children" (the exact same targets that the Tyroshi wanted). And Jon Snow wonders that he got it rathre easy from Tycho. Coincidence? I don't think so. This means that Arya's information to the Kindly Man was passed on to the Iron Bank, and Tycho who was heading for Eastwatch anyway, just right in time upon his departure. There's no way that the FM are still working for Euron imo. He's a reaver, a slaver and mad man who wants to be emperor of the world with dragons... you know the type of guy who'd recreate a Valyria empire if he must, an empire from which the FM were born to oppose it and helped bring about the Doom. IMO the FM found out that somehow Euron had double crossed them (holding back the ownership of the dragon horn), that they underestimated him. Jaquen's in Oldtown to prevent Euron from getting his greedy crazy hands on tomes of information about dragons and magic.

They're not, because each set of three visions is basically capped with a different title. Viserys, Rhaego, Rhaegar -> daughter of death Stannis, Aegon, stone beast -> slayer of lies Silver, Greyjoy prow, Jon's blue rose -> bride of fire Only the last three are related to Dany as a bride, and thus marriage.

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I'll be around. It's just not worth streaming it (is a hassle and no other way to watch it now as it airs here only in November on TV). Back to what I did after 5;04 last year... Just will read what they did, and watch a clip sometime later that sounds interesting enough.