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  1. sweetsunray

    Is the quality of this season low?

    Emilia just had to think of D&D's writing while pretending to be a on dragon
  2. sweetsunray

    Is the quality of this season low?

    Agreed. The story deserves more breathing room, but it would only lead to filler episodes with bad or no dialogue, "emoting" by actors leaving to have us guess what that character feels or is thinking, and a sudden twist giving viewers whiplash on the character's "surprise"!
  3. sweetsunray

    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    https://sweeticeandfiresunray.com/the-chthonic-cycle/
  4. sweetsunray

    Gendry?

    But Arya is Arya Underfoot and she actually prefers hanging out with the commoners. She preferred playing with Mycah over playing Sansa. We actually had a heavy allusion to Arya "Underfoot" in her KL "adventure" when she was trampled underfoot. The situation is also different in the books than in the show. George kept an acknowledged reserve Baratheon bastard who actually grew up in Storm's End in his Myrish back pocket, while he preserves Gendry in the Riverlands amidst Aray's ghosts, with just a cameo in Brienne's POV when she tries to look for Arya (instead of Sansa after the Quiet Isle). Book Gendry won't get Storm's End, which is exactly far more to Arya's liking. And the RL is where Nymeria's at. If Ghost going to the true North is an indication that's where Jon ends up, then Nymeria at the Riverlands is an indication where book Arya may end up in the end, as a forest lass-queen and a certain knight of Hollow Hill.
  5. sweetsunray

    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    I know Lost Melnibonean's essay, yes. But no, it's not all the textual evidence points at. The suggestion of accidental death combined with ending up as food is made earlier on in the chapter. So, we get an allusion to a stew made out of "squirrel" (people), followed with Leaf's warning not to wander. A river is what Leaf first warned against. Deeper passages with bottomless pits and sudden shafts is the second thing she warns them about. Despite her cautions, Meera and Jojen still go to the river, and Jojen does not have the strength to pull himself up via the rope alone. So, that almost went wrong. If Bran had not come along as Hodor, Jojen would have died there. What we are missing in this chapter is the even more dangerous exploration, the one that leads to sudden shafts and pits. As for the Children, it is in this same chapter, after Leaf's warning that George describes the appearances of the Children: with their cat eyes and three fingers with dark claws. So, George depicts them physically as omnivorous potential predators. Not as murderers though, but as a species that is comparable to a big cat. Lions and tigers aren't 'evil' or 'murderers'. George specifically aims to portray them as natural, which is the opposite of Craster.
  6. sweetsunray

    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    And here's what the bittersweet may refer to:
  7. sweetsunray

    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    Do you have any evidence they killed Jojen? No. All we have is that Leaf warned both Meera and Jojen against exploring the caves too deep, for they are dangerous. And then we witness Meera and Jojen explore caves, with Bran skinchanging Hodor. As I said, Jojen may have met with an accident.
  8. sweetsunray

    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    It all depends on the situation. If you kill people to eat them, no I do not consider it good. Craster is heavily hinted as having done that: kill rangers, turn them into blood sausages in his secret larder. Benjen became Craster's bacon imo, which is why it was important that Jon refused the bacon at Craster's. It certainly was not because of being boudn to guest right, since they all left, and Jon never even returned to the place. What Craster did is evil. (Strange how there's no weirwood in sight, huh?) (https://sweeticeandfiresunray.com/2016/08/30/crasters-black-blooded-curse/) But people who have little to no survival resources and end up eating someone who died of an accident or natural causes? No, I do not condemn these people as evil. Is is advizable to do this on a cultural level even when there is plenty of alternatives? No, because the risk of getting certain diseases or brain detoriative diseases increases. Martinworld depicts the potential spectrum in vague terms, without ever saying it outright, but he depicts cannibalism also as survival and a means to get rid of wights, an enemy, something completely unnatural (a living dead) without starving. If we think of the Long Night and what the world becomes like north of the wall, deprived of living game, then eating the dead is one of the ways to make sure they don't become your enemy and that you survive. It is not wise to send your old men out to die in the cold during a Long Night, because they'd only return as wights to kill you. And as for Children of the Forest eating humans... that can't be called cannibalism, since they're not even the same species. People hunt monkeys (including quite intelligent ones) for bush meat. We call it evil now, because of wanting to protect the bit of wildlife still left in this world. But theoretically I don't consider eating a monkey more evil than a cow.
  9. sweetsunray

    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    No, they're not evil. Are we EVUL because we eat meat? No. And yes I know how symbolism works... got a whole series of essays on the symbolism of the North as an underworld, where Starks are the rulers of the underworld. Your response to these elements is that like Catelyn with her southron prejudices, or people thinking Hades was an evil god. He wasn't evil, though it's understandable he was feared. Ned Stark fully incorporates all the characteristics of the mythological Hades. Meanwhile Bran is steeped in Horus symbolism, especially that of Horus the good. Bloodraven's cave has references to the cave of the Greek god of dreams, which is also part of the underworld.
  10. sweetsunray

    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    So? Bran didn't retch when he ate the long pork in a chapter before. (that was actually flesh of the mutineers that Coldhands killed). It is bittersweet. As I said, he may have had an accident for all we know. Meera and him went exploring a lot. Waste not, want not, when there is little else to be had. Cycle of nature. Do you consider "death EVUL"? Do you consider worms and maggots EVUL? But it might also be bittersweet for other reasons - because Bran's wed to a tree now, instead of Meera.
  11. sweetsunray

    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    Ravens are carrion eaters. So is Summer. Both eat wights, animated dead. So, it's not all bad. And nope, that is not evidence that Jojen is paste. He could be. Maybe he's stew. Maybe he had an accident in the caves. Or maybe he left to return home.
  12. sweetsunray

    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    You cite Old Nan, who also tells tales of Children as saviors and helpers. If I was writing an evil people that lied, I wouldn't surround them in imagery that make readers freak out with "waaah, skulls!" or have Maesters (liars) tell stories (internally conflicting) about them as wanting to wreak havoc on mankind with earthquakes and floods.
  13. sweetsunray

    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    And it's still George who decided to name it that way. The Children aren't "Crows"... Crows are the men of the NW. Nor do Children skinchange crows, but ravens, and ravens don't lie. ETA: kindof weird you cite Old Nan to paint the children as evul and liars, when that same woman tells stories of them as saviors and helpers.
  14. sweetsunray

    It is not a pale horse

    Well, practically they wanted something to appear to help save Arya to leave the city cinematographically they wanted to have it leave a 'magical' or 'fairytale' or 'divine" like impression on the viewer and make it look symbolic. They had the child carry around a white toy horse the entire episode. The slow motion, the approach and the sunlight effect was intentional. they're not going to "explain" it, and whatever you read into it d&d may not have followed up on it in the finale That said there are two different types of music themes used in the entire final scene of Arya. a distorted version with violins of Bran's theme whenever he flashbacks at some Stark related past event in s6, including the one where a young Lyanna rides a white horse. This is at the start of the scene, when Arya still has to step away from the wall and look down the street to see the pompei like embrace of mother and child with toy horse a violin version of Dany's theme as played during her wedding to Khal Drogo and she is gifted her horse 'Silver' you could hear a wandering neighing horse in the background the moment that Arya finds herself in the dwelling with the mothers and children hiding, where she tries to urge the mother and child to flee with her and keep moving So, they may have intended to link Arya to Lyanna, the wild wolf, who disappeared in the RL, and whose story-role is to be a mother of a royal heir. And also link Arya to Dany. Dany here was the mother who avenged her dead children, but also killed mothers and children (who would have been her nation's children if she had ceased violence after the surrender). Meanwhile Arya attempted to save a mother and child. Dany's journey to mother Mysha and mother to Rhaego began with the gift of Silver. Her journey will end soon, and Arya no doubt will want to "kill the queen". BTW the first victims Arya sees is a daughter crying while trying to hold up her dead father, and a Lyanna lookalike bathing in blood (belly and legs) and her husband looking for her (and he looked like a Gendry of S1-s3), asking Arya "Whether she saw his wife?" Much of the carnage that Arya witnesses, and the inner courtyard with the map where Sandor sends her home and being a parallel to the day Syrio told Arya to choose life and flee the keep, sort of takes her along matchy-matchy imagery of the carnage and death she witnessed since the end of s1. It could be seen as a trip and confrontation through Arya's trauma since she fled from Syrio, including the carnage at the Twins. After the Twins she chose to go to Braavos, as an agent of Death, to be an assassin. Now she gets a re-do, and choose life. All the proposed imagery works: Arya "Death on a pale mare". She might have chosen life, but in her mind she may still want to try to kill Dany. But since she tried to act like a savior instead, she won't be the one actually doing it, just like she didn't kill Cersei either. The one she killed, the NK, was death itself, and thus a precursor of an arc, where Arya is put on a path of a savior. Arya "life on a white horse": she is one of the few survivors out of the heart of the city. The unicorn image, though here as a white horse without a horn, a sign of purity and many of the other prior proposed images Now, the episode aired on Mother's day, and we had two major "mother figures" in the plot: avenging Dany and Cersei crying she wanted her baby to live. Cersei's death scene with Jaime is interspersed between the moment when the mother and child that Arya tried to save are being burned to a crisp, and Arya finding them dead. They also had Arya's make-up matchy-matchy with how LS is supposed to look, and LS is also called "Mother Mercy". So, imo they tried to cinematographically first put Arya through her childhood journey to have her end as some type of mother figure as well. This might be for symbolical reasons, but might be literal. She might be with child and a mother to be. In the books the Kindly Man says that women rarely are FM, because women give life, and you can't give life and be a killer at the same time. But it could just as well mean that the Mother (one of the Faith's aspects) saved her child. Both Dany and Cersei are queens. Arya may be a queen to be. Gendry did call her "beautiful", so she's hypothetically a potential "younger, beautiful queen". For sound effect: just before you hear a horse and she finds the living mother and child in the dwelling, the bell tower came down, and you hear the "bell" again. Bells have several meanings: bells to signal death, weddings, shame, alarm, or now surrender. So, it could mean 'for whom the bell tolls' (ominously), to mourn, or to celebrate. Anyway, take your pick, it has several potential meanings, and could just amount to nothing much whatsoever. I think they did put it in there on purpose to make the viewer wonder and theorize and speculate, but this might have been only for red-herring reasons. So, in the end, for me
  15. sweetsunray

    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    George called it the True Tongue. So, yes, believe them: they can see the truth, they live the longest and are around the longest (1 million years) and have the Planetos' histories in the weirwood as a library, and they speak the truth.
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