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  1. Julia H.

    Acrophobia 31 The End

    1) 4. Begins walkies northward, rescues Gated songbird. 2) 3. Saves another princess, gets unwanted elevation. 3) 2. Sparrows' "attorney", Prosecutor Gravedigger. UnGregor's enemy. 4) 1. Silence and prayer get uninteresting eventually.
  2. Julia H.

    The Game

    It was "icy attention" that won my vote for you. It is not only a clever reference to Ice, but also a great description of an important aspect of Ned's character. I also really liked the sound of "boreal baron". I'm sorry if I hurt any feelings with my opinion of the clues. It wasn't my intention. I love you all.
  3. Julia H.

    The Game

    Fine. Actually, it would have been perfectly possible to use baby or brother... I did not say anything was random. You mentioned that certain things were "separated" by the clue. But, in fact, there is no rule that says how separate two things mentioned in two sentences in the same clue are supposed to be. You make it sound as though it were perfectly self-evident, but if you don't know the answer, you can never take these things for granted either way. Or: Robb insulted Walder with fatal consequences. (One thing.) Or: Viserys began boldly, holding a weapon where he should not have had one. Then he insulted Drogo. (Two things.) You may be right, and I may be right. "Same" and "different" are up to interpretation here. Which is not what I argued at all. But never mind. I'm tired as well.
  4. Julia H.

    The Game

    So ultimately the repercussions are simply the wives being hurt - something that has nothing to do with the subject - and that thousands died, a fact which was not really the consequence of the honour in question (QoLaB). I see. The link you provided took me to the Lingo2Word site. A typed bubba, and this is what I got: "Do you mean baby?" Is that really a definition or does it mean that the site can't find the word and suggests another one, which contains similar letters? Anyway, how can I guess a meaning that I don't even find in major dictionaries, when I don't even know that I have to search for more meanings? How do I know what is connected and what is not? Aerys was a soldier and became a knight early in his life, so he "began boldly", but later wasn't particularly bold. Robb didn't only "began" boldly, he was brave and bold through and through. If this is so, then the "insulted" and "fatal" parts are not the same thing either. So if Viserys is out because "began boldly" and "insulted ally" are clearly not the same thing, then Robb must also be out because "insulted" and "fatal" cannot be the same thing either (as they are separated in the clue in the same way "began boldly" and "insulted ally" are separated), which means insulting the ally can't be the dramatically fatal thing (as it is with Robb). That leaves Aerys, where all three things are separated.
  5. Julia H.

    The Game

  6. Julia H.

    The Game

    Wow. - I confess I still don't get #1. At all. - I guess #4 refers to Elia looking at baby Tyrion. The dictionaries I consulted for bubba say: 1) "sometimes used to address or refer to a boy or a man, especially the eldest child in a family" ; 2) "redneck", which in turn is defined as "a white member of the Southern rural laboring class" and 3) "Used as an affectionate form of address to a brother". That's three different dictionaries. How was I to guess that it would refer to youngest child aristocrat Tyrion as spoken by Elia (to whom Tyrion is not a brother)? - # 2: I actually thought of Jon Snow. But it could have been Robb Stark just as well. Even Bran, though he is developing a different "form", yet burying applies to him in two ways. Even Sweetrobin (recently lost his mother, who had still been breasfeeding him) is said to have "grown". - #7: It could be Viserys (boldly insulted the Dothraki, dramatc death); Joffrey (boldy insulted Tyrion before dramatically dying during th Purple Wedding) or Aerys II (he was a fighter as a young man, so bold, later insulted Tywin, died in a dramatic way).
  7. Julia H.

    Acrophobia 31 The End

    1) 2. Brain preservation duty obstructs play: finding sticks, nosing, going digging. 2) 7. By-passing death: obvious purpose for Snow's noble Ghost 'dog'. 3) 5. Ghost gets mellifluous, softly calling Jon "King". Behooves doggy vacation. 4) 1. Ghost's gutted master skinchanges consciousness. Jon keeps belying death vicariously.
  8. Julia H.

    The Game

    .... and the rest of the pairs didn't have a discussion, is that right?
  9. Julia H.

    The Game

    Aye!
  10. Julia H.

    The Game

    Could we get an extension, please?
  11. Julia H.

    R+L=J v.165

    LOL, "many children=war in your kingdom" is a non-existent equation. In reality, there are lots of factors influencing the future of a country. Besides, when do characters in-world worry that there might be too many descendants? I can't recall any father character in the series who is actually described as worrying about this premise (especially not while he has only two kids). The Targaryens are nowhere near the Freys in this respect and not even good old Walder realizes that it's a problem even though in his family it clearly is. Apparently, the idea that someone has too many children isn't culturally recognized as a problem. I had a very minor point: that something you outright excluded as impossible could not be totally excluded with the information we have and considering the values of the world in question - and I still maintain this point. (And no, I never said this was Rhaegar's "only" or "main" motivation, it's you who keep making this strawman argument.) But you couldn't bear that someone expressed a different opinion than yours and went out of your way to destroy the idea that some medieval idea might actually have existed in Rhaegar's head, throwing around offensive words like stupid, madman, selfish etc., and making ex cathedra statements about non-existent "established facts" in this world and how "everyone" must think or do this or that in a given situation just because - in your opinion - that's the only way to think and do. There is no "only way" for everyone, and we know very little about Rhaegar. When I pointed out how you were factually inaccurate, then you suddenly "never said that". As for who is making a fuss - look at your posts: Do you really think there is so much relevant information to back up that Rhaegar did not consider something that it could realistically fill all these long posts you have written in response to my suggestion? Such as, Rhaegar would surely have made Elia pregnant for the third time if he had had any dynastic considerations, whatever the consequences for her because absolutely everyone would have done that; Rhaegar would never have had kids with another woman if it hadn't been for the prophecy, just because he was so well-versed in history; Rhaegar knew and was concerned (now somehow we know that!) about the established fact that half-siblings always killed each other, full siblings didn't (oops! it's actually not so - that's irrelevant); Rhaegar would have got married at 16 if he had been interested in the continuation of his line, and since he wasn't interested in it at the age of sixteen, he clearly wasn't at the age of 30 plus either (that's just brilliant), and so on. All this to prove that Rhaegar absolutely could not have wanted a "spare" of his own, one that wasn't Viserys and wasn't a girl. And if he was concerned about this question, then he was definitely mad and selfish and what not. Well, I've read this far and was quite enough.
  12. Julia H.

    R+L=J v.165

    I never said anything about "simply" or "selfish dynastic purposes". I said: This could be a legitimate concern in a feudal world, and I doubt anyone in-world would regard it as selfish. Not caring about such things could be seen as more selfish, actually. No, we don't. I didn't say we know, just that it is a possibility. You seem to claim it is out of the question as though we could know Rhaegar's mind. We know so little of what happened, how could we know for sure it wasn't a factor for him? Who is talking about "reducing" and "only"? All I say is something is possible because we don't have exact information and you start writing long posts and talking as though I said this is the only thing Rhaegar's character is about. Surprise, surprise, I have heard about the prophecy, Lyanna, the vision in the HUTU and the rest of the book, no need to teach me. As for: Well, he apparently did contemplate something like that. And I never said that the dynastic concern was his only or main concern or that he necessarily had this concern, only that we don't know that he didn't have this concern, after all quite a lot is made of Elia not being able to give him more kids. As for why he acted in the Year of the False Spring, I think (and said before) that if he wanted to marry Lyanna and not just a random girl, then he had to act before Robert married her, besides, there could have been other factors we don't know about that made him feel it was time to act. Tywin behaves as though Jaime was his heir, but Aerys took his heir from him when he made him Kingsguard. Tywin is in denial. You can still have several concerns. BTW, why would Rhaegar think prior to the Rebellion that his life was at stake? Rhaegar apparently was making plans to remove Aerys. Nothing indicates that he was going to crown Viserys after that. What we know of him doesn't imply that he gave up on the crown, whatever Aerys wanted to do. We have been through this, I think. You just keep repeating what you have said before, without addressing my reply. Yes, and individual people always do exactly what others would expect them to do on the basis of historical knowledge, and they never try to do what their ancestors failed to do. In the same post, you also say: So what exactly is your picture of Rhaegar? A man who carefully studies history to make sure he doesn't repeat the mistakes of his ancestors and doesn't do anything that could cause rivalry and enmity among his descendants (to the point that he would rather reduce the number of his own descendants than risk conflicts in later generations) or a man who doesn't care about the immediate consequences of his actions and is willing to take large-scale risks to achieve his purposes? He could have been either but definitely not both. Yet, you picture him in whatever way that suits your argument at the moment and change your description when you move on to the next argument. OK, so are you now saying that full siblings kill each other for a reason but half-siblings kill each other because they are half-siblings? Euron is a psychopath. So is Ramsay. Both happen to want what their brothers have and so they kill their respective brothers. One of those brothers happens to be a half-brother, the other one a full brother. GRRM does not seem to make the statement you attributed to him in your earlier post: I proved with lots of examples that this is not how GRRM describes his world, so it is by no means an "established fact" in-world. So now it is a tendency? But it was "an established fact" for everyone a few posts back. In our world despite the high number of marriages ending in divorce (tendency!), there are still young people who choose to get married, hoping that they will be able to make it, statistics be damned. Not particularly close or loyal? LOL, as per your earlier statement, they should have killed each other. The only thing we now about them from the author is that they stood together against the dragon. Again, GRRM is not depicting a world where half-siblings, as a rule, kill each other or cannot be trusted in case of a crisis. You are saying it now. Earlier you spoke about an establish fact for all the people in this world. As for ignoring a tendency, see above my example of marriages today. The imprisonment has nothing to do with their being half-sisters or wanting to kill each other or anyone in their family. Conclusion: Half-siblings can fight but so can full siblings. Both types of siblings sometimes kill each other (you haven't even mentioned Stannis and Renly...) and both types of siblings can get along well. That's what this world is like. We don't know that Rhaegar expected the rebellion, the deaths and was OK with it. We don't know what plans he may have had and how they failed or backfired. If we only knew about Robb Stark that he married Jeyne breaking his promise to the Freys then went to the Red Wedding, where a massacre occurred, you might conclude Robb was OK with the idea of setting the Red Wedding in motion when he married Jeyne. But we know that he tried alternative ways to placate the Freys and he went to the Red Wedding in the hope that the alliance would be restored. He was wrong, of course, but it doesn't mean he anticipated what would happen and didn't care. I didn't mean the pregnancy, but the knowledge that she was going to die at the end of the pregnancy, leaving perhaps three orphaned kids behind, and her husband didn't care. That would be torture. Not physical torture, but torture nevertheless. Perhaps. Again, we don't know what his plan was. At least I don't claim I know. In any case, setting aside Elia but leaving her and her children well provided is kinder than killing her by another pregnancy. If Lyanna loved Rhaegar, she probably didn't want to see him as a monster either. Or am I the only woman in the world who wouldn't feel reassured knowing that my husband was murderously cruel to his first wife and her children after falling in love with me? Yet, it wouldn't have been easy to set aside your firstborn son unless you had a strong support base - which might mean that Rhaegar may have had some plan that failed or backfired. Well, take that up with Rhaegar - or the George. Sure Rhaegar could have impregnated Elia despite the warning of the maesters. Perhaps no one (except perhaps Elia's family) would have blamed him. Yet, could have or should have doesn't mean would have. Individual people make individual decisions. When Ned decided to tell Robert the truth about Cersei's children, he could have and probably should have kept his plan a secret from Cersei. Most other people would have done that. Yet, what did Ned do? He invited Cersei to a meeting and revealed everything to her. A highly unusual or unlikely decision, but he did it with a reason. That Rhaegar would want to spare Elia instead of killing her is not less likely than Ned wanting to spare Cersei's children. We know that, but we only know the very basics of the story, not the details. Sure, just because he wasn't in a hurry to get married at the age of 16, he absolutely couldn't have had dynastic concerns when he was over thirty and realized that his wife couldn't give him another child. (My son is 17 and currently he thinks that having a family of his own would only make it more difficult for him to achieve his great goals in life. Do I worry about not getting any grandchildren from him? No, because there is plenty of time for him to change his mind and reconsider his priorities.) Rhaegar married Elia for dynastic reasons. He couldn't know, nor was it his duty to assess how fertile Elia would be. Maesters or perhaps experienced women could make that assessment, and who knows what happened (if anything) in this respect.
  13. Julia H.

    Acrophobia 31 The End

    Hm... It's easy to pinpoint the worst entry: Mine. Such is life... As for choosing the best ones (a much more difficult task): 1) 3. Brienne's longing looks definitely beat incest! 2) 4. Brotherhood lynches Lannister despite Brienne's imploring. 3) 5. Built loving life doing Brienne intimately. 4) 8. Brilliantly leads legions. Dies, but immortalised.
  14. Julia H.

    Dissecting Names

    I just have to add to this: Tormund "Giantsbane", who is "not a big man" gets Oakenshield Castle - a pretty strong reference to Thorin, King of Dwarves. (Does that make all the wildlings dwarves?) In addition, just like Snow White, Jon Snow is (almost) killed by an apple - well, a Pomagranate. I fully expect a kiss in connection with his coming back to life. I just hope the kiss will not come from the wrong person.
  15. Julia H.

    R+L=J v.165

    Sorry, you didn't convince me. Your replies show that you either do not understand what I'm saying or intentionally distort my arguments, avoid my real points and debate arguments I do not argue. You have your own picture of Rhaegar and what he was like, which is fine. But what you suggest with so much confidence (as though ex cathedra) is by no means the only possibility - unless you are GRRM.
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