Corvo the Crow

Not exactly related to your thread, but i had this thread on families https://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php?/topic/148871-family-defining-features-will-no-longer-get-updates/#comment-8053766 Thought you might be interested… and who knows, perhaps you may connect the personality traits with the physical ones in some way or another.

Sorry for the title, as it could've been better. I can't spend much time in the forums nowadays, nor do I have the time to do extensive research and thinking on the subject, so I would like to recruit(or levy if you will!) some interested people on connecting these 4 houses to each other; Stark, Royce, Crane, Dayne. Had some initial work on it posted to the forums as seperate threads or even part of some other thread, I may add those in a day or two but in summary they are as such; Crane-Stark Brandon of the Bloody Blade slays COTF near Blue Lake turning it red. Rose is of the RED LAKE, not BLUE LAKE. Brandon of the Bloody Blade also drives giants from the Reach and Brandon the Builder uses (forced?) giant labor to build the Wall. House Crane Coat of Arms is five gold cranes on a field of PALE BLUE. Roses, especially winter roses are associated with Starks and what color are these? You guessed it, PALE BLUE! Royce-Stark Jon and Waymar resembling each other (at least in physique) Royce is a matronymic surname derived from Rose. Blue roses, anyone? or perhaps a Rose as in a person's name? Some parallels; Both Eddard and Bronze Yohn send a son to NW. Brandon wants to become a KG, Robar actually becomes one. Crane-Royce A weak one, Rose of the Red Lake and Royce name perhaps? Dayne-Stark Can only come up with the Dawn.

Somewhat far fetched but here it is! (Kar)Starks are long legged(Jon, Benjen, Alys, Arya and presumably Lyanna) Storks are long legged birds. Cranes are also long legged birds. Starks and Cranes are related! Joke aside, I had long ago theorized they had some relation, through Brandon of the Bloody Blade.

So? It may very well be that he was born towards the end of the year and this takes place at the start of the year, making him 15. When Benjen takes him he says he’ll be 15 in his next name day. When Robb leads the army he is 15. Jon is younger than Robb, several months at least, based on Ned’s lie that Wylla is his mother.

Long ago I’ve “theorized” or whatever that Targaryens are the source of most of the Valyrian swords in Westeros; they sold off all their holdings and riches and came to Westeros with just 3 ships. How did they carry all that wealth to Ds? Simple, turn it into the most valuable thing with the lowest weight and volume and turn it into gold when needed. Carrying a few hundred VS swords are much easier than carrying gold, or even it’s equivelant in gems. Once in Westeros they can sell it and perhaps even make a profit being the sole supplier.

Hey hey hey! Jon was still a minor at the time, even by westerosi standards(16 is when you come of age) he was a child and Ygritte was an adult and several years older than him. So no consent there, sorry. She’s a pedophile and rapist. She all but blackmails him into sexual relations as well. She is quite the sex offender.

I had one lying around, don’t know where though. It’s Most likely in the wow I never noticed threads from around that time, a few months before the quoted post at most.

wow, srsly! Wildlings are just people north of the North. Raiders are really a very small minority. They hunt and fish and farm and go whaling... and they trade, with the watch and with ships. Thenns even mine and smith.

If Qhorin was Arthur he knew who Jon was. It was Jon who killed Qhorin and they had quite some time for a reveal before it happened. With Ned dead and Howland in some disease ridden swamp, why would Arthur not reveal the whole thing to Jon before forcing jon to kill him? Same also holds true for Rhaegar=Mance theories.

Wildlings have democracy, of sorts. Moon clansmen have a true democracy if i recall.

the idea of a wildling varys is funny. Perhaps he is tormund’s brother and the story of half his member gone is in truth his brother losing his one.

Not from the boks or anything, but I've just learned that Attila was found dead in his bed after his wedding, having choked and with blood coming from his nose. Since it's so similar to Joffrey's case, thought I might share.

Umber sigil is a giant breaking it’s chains. Greatjon is currently in chains. A foreshadowing perhaps? Also, Brandon of the Bloody Blade has driven the giants out of the Reach, while Brandon the Builder used giants to build the wall. Among the major lords, Umbers are the closest to the wall. Perhaps Brandon Stark forced these giants of the Reach to work on the wall and this one Giant(ess) broke it’s chains and took a human spouse?

And where did the Martells come from, if not the sea?

Ned Went south with 50 guards. Sent 4 back with Lady. Lost 3 to Jaime. Sent 20 with Beric. Also had 8 with him when he went to court. Cersei had 100 guards and 12 knights against Ned’s 15 at the tower. Robb with 6000 men slaughtered Jaime’s 1500-2250. Trust me when I say nords are better.