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  1. Springwatch

    The hound saved Jeyne Poole

    It's not provable. But I like this idea a lot.
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    Begin with an End: An Ignorance of Ice and Fire

    Is a good question; and probably one only the author can answer. What's not even open to question is the simple existence of character parallels. They just do. Cersei/Jaime v's Margaery/Loras is maybe the best example, and the parallels are heavily underlined with remarks like He is me (Jaime), and I am the queen, you fool (Cersei, hearing someone call Margaery the queen). Agree: parallels don't mean the same story every time. This is the song of ice and fire, framed by two chapters of elemental magic. It would - just be nice - if those two chapters had equal weight. I mean, we see the return of the Others, and we see the return of the dragons. That's balanced. But try comparing Dany to Waymar! Dany is re-born, a dragon that hatched: 'The frightened child who sheltered in my manse died on the Dothraki sea, and was reborn in blood and fire. The dragon queen who bears her name is a true Targaryen.' Dany is queen and conqueror, and loaded with prophecies. Waymar is nothing. Jon, however, is another hatching dragon.
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    Begin with an End: An Ignorance of Ice and Fire

    Now you come to mention it, rebirth is the most hopeful thing of all! - Jon needs a resurrection. Waymar and Jon: the parallels get brought up every now and then. Some people take it has foreshadowing (like this) and some don't (I like this one). Personally I think it has to be foreshadowing, because what else are you going to do with all these characters with parallels? There's plenty (e.g. Cersei/Jaime & Margaery/Loras).
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    Begin with an End: An Ignorance of Ice and Fire

    Dany was ignorant too. There is not much knowledge of magic even among maesters, according to Luwin. Dragon lore is hard to come by, according to Tyrion. Even Targ kings didn't know how to hatch eggs. Mirri herself was surprised at Dany's 'ritual', therefore not involved in it. The only thing left is the Targ affinity to heat - she threw everything valuable on the fire. Fire and blood. Perhaps she guessed Summerhall was a similar attempt, but Summerhall was a disastrous failure. So yes, she was taking on a huge risk. And though calm, she didn't come off as centred and in control - the Dothraki thought she was irrational and Jorah thought she was suicidal. Waymar also followed his instincts - to complete his mission and seek out the truth. In this story, he was a loser; in another story he could be a hero from just the same actions. Suppose Ned tried a bit harder to hear Gared's story - the curse of ignorance could have been lifted right from the beginning. Just playing with ideas here. Both seem to be in opposition to their environment: Dany is calm and quiet while the fire is roaring like a beast and MIrri is singing and screaming; and Waymar is too loud in a quiet place where both his companions and the Others are described as silent. Waymar isn't important in the big scheme of things, which is why I'm interested in the idea that he's a cipher for Jon. As foreshadowing, Waymar's death actually feels pretty hopeful. The silence is broken by screaming and shrieking. The single sword shatters into a rain of needles (= Needles?) - the one blade produces a hundred, with the original as if touched by lightning. A powerful image. One of those shards prevents an eye from turning blue - possibly suggesting that the wightification and mental enslavement is incomplete. Waymar's blood is red as fire. Again, just playing with ideas.
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    Small Questions v. 10105

    I get interested in the quirky choice of words. English-isms could maybe add a flavour of medieval europe - but I'm not sure that's the idea (really, all languages are cousins of equal age). I think he's a wordsmith, first and last. Just likes to play around with the spelling.
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    Small Questions v. 10105

    My books have 'grey' always spelled with an 'e', when I was expecting 'gray' with an 'a'. Do other editions have gray with an a?
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    Begin with an End: An Ignorance of Ice and Fire

    Ok, good. The book starts and ends with extremely magical scenes, but little or nothing magical between. You're right, they should be compared. (Personally, this takes me straight back into the confusion of the ice that burns, and the cold that feels warm.) Many ideas here; I'll just comment on a few. Interesting. Dany, iirc, is calm in a place of noise and action. Waymar is noisy in a place of calm and stillness. Both ignore the advice, experience and fears of their veteran supporters. Dany wants more fire, Waymar none. Interesting stuff! I see more parallels than differences between the two: both were crazily bold and not a little ignorant. Dany lived even though fire destroys. Waymar died even though ice preserves. It takes me a bit of effort to remember that death need not be the end of a character arc, just a transformation into a new phase as undead. That said, I'm not expecting to see much of Waymar again. Instead, I'm impressed by the arguments that he's a shadow character for Jon. What do you think? Both were sent to the Wall because their noble families had no place for them. Both were interested in learning from the dead. One was killed by 'watchers', the other by Watchmen. Parallels don't get much better than that....
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    How should Robb have gotten his sisters back?

    Robb loved his family - but the way things worked out, he abandoned his sisters and his brothers. He even sent Cat away. Basically he made himself a lone wolf, and he died. Destiny rules. I don't what else he could have or should have done. Getting Sansa out of KL involved a lot of plotting and conspirators and secret passages, all of which is outside Robb's scope. I suppose he might have done something like Tyrion's capture of Tommen, but he'd have to wait for Sansa to be taken outside the city.
  9. Fascinating stuff, as ever. The weapons of a knight are the longsword and the lance - both 'long' weapons, which Tyrion avoided in the early books. Now, reluctantly, he's taken up a shrunken lance, and (almost) a shrunken sword (not the first shrunken sword we've seen either). Maybe he's moving towards a kind of honorary knighthood, getting closer to those legendary heroes we keep hearing about. The time for heroes is pretty much now, I should think.
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    Problematic aspects of Sansa`s education

    Being guarded at all times would be over the top. But not being guarded at all, even when they need it? It feels a bit odd that Sansa and Mordane were so isolated from their own people. This was the Hand's Tourney - the northerners should have been honoured guests, present in great numbers. Plot device, I guess.
  11. Does Tyrion in fact use a sword? I can only picture an axe or something. Maybe a dagger. It feels like swords and needles could be markers for two incompatible groups. Cersei probably learned the 'womanly arts' like every other highborn girl. On top of that, her dressmakers get a lot of prominence, and she takes the benefit of all their work and skill (in a sense, they are her 'Hands'). So Cersei is top of the needlework tree without even trying. Anyway, there's no point in Cersei doing her own needlework. There's a limit to how many dresses she can wear, so there's a limit to how many dressmakers she needs - she just needs to choose from the best talent available. Swordfighting is a bit different. Armies aren't about selecting a small, talented team; armies need to be big, all-inclusive. And Jaime needs the skills to be part of that army, as its head. He doesn't have to be the best swordfighter, but he has to be good enough.
  12. If the Others are powerful skinchangers (I think they are), and there are no limits on range (doesn't seem to be) - then the Others could conquer Westeros by a bloodless coup: target the key players, smash their minds out of orbit, and - just move in and start ruling. I'm not sure why the Others would want to do this, but it does seem within their capabilities. (Some key players seem barely in their right minds even now.)
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    Problematic aspects of Sansa`s education

    Definitely yes. Why did Mordane and Sansa have no escort to protect them returning from the tourney feast? A woman and a girl, walking home late and in the dark, in a place where a lot of soldiers and strangers have just been having a huge party. Crazy.
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    Problematic aspects of Sansa`s education

    Another positive for Septa Mordane:
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    Problematic aspects of Sansa`s education

    Well, yes, I agree. The septa is a snob, and biased, and disagreeable - and neither young nor beautiful - so it's not often someone picks up on her good points. Here's a few more: She drank Sansa's wine! at the tourney feast, when Sansa was being wined and dined by wicked Joffrey. Somehow Sansa never became drunk, though her cup was constantly being refilled. Mordane was correct to criticize the Stark men for looking bedraggled in the tourney. She was right, and Ned was wrong to allow this: the jousting should have been a show of strength. Jory's shabby appearance highlighted Ned's carelessness on defensive matters. For everyone to see. Mordane is equally sharp to Sansa as to Arya when she is 'willful'. It's quite surprising that Arya ever turned up at needlework lessons, or cared how well she did. That's a partial achievement for a teacher. And Arya thought Sansa had been taught to a very high standard, that's another plus. (Though I think Arya might have an exaggerated idea of Sansa's skill - I mean, how is she to know?)