Meera of Tarth

thanks for asking and don't worry. It's normal. I'm doing fine. It's been 3 weeks and now till the 26th we will still be in lockdown. I was very nercous at the start (also bc I also had low fever and not feeling well in general for a while...) But now I'm a little bit better. Lots of anxiety nervous seeing daily the figures on TV.... so I know what it is... My main issue has been to adapt to the master online. We will finish the course this way. But since it's a lot of work this distracts me. However not socialising physically it's also difficult, probaly the worst. Not moving in general... Looking at the screens for so many hours... But we get accustomed. I don't have to work. Since I worked at the university but my job necessarily needs to be there and now it is completely closed I can't even connect to the computer there. We didn't think of it since they closed it out of a sudden. We will see. My boss said we would talk when it's finished. He works online but I bet he can't do half of what he did. Now they have said around 15x100 of the population might have had it.

So now Spain is the second country in the world with more official cases after the US.

@RhaenysBee don't worry all these feelings are normal. You are adapring to a new situation. Don't feel guilty for staying in your own world and feeling good or bad for what you are doing...it's normal we consume the news and we become stressed and we also engage in entertaining activities bc it's needed. Also no one knows exactly how this virus work so it's in no way a matter of a lack of understanding from your perspective. Experts of different countries have different theories and everyhting is on the table right now. I'm also feeling lots of things these days. Take care!

Apparently sth similar is hppening in Catalonia with the yeast. And I can confirm that on instagram people are showing their bakery creations all day!

They're operating normally in Spain as well. Not sure if it's better or worse at this point. Delivery in general as well, Amazon Spain is turning over a lot... this latter makes me feel anxious.

Roughly two weeks ago we were astonished to hear the MP talking about the chances of reaching 10.000 cases when we had reached the thousand something that week. Now at 100.000 with a population of around 45 milion10.000 per day it's just "normal". Reality is that there must be around a million actually. Otherwise the death rate counting the official numbers would be 10%. But probably it's more.

Now the new protocols kinda encourage not to hospitalise the elders from care homes. Well basically what was on the media today explicitly sai that the last word is for the doctor, but people who could not live "benefitting from good health" Should not be prioritised but be accompanied with treatment to stop the pain. They also permit some minutes to see how is their breath if it's bad it's another gyide to not be prioritised and just well..let die. Two weeks ago it was not the case generally speaking. They didn't have to create ethical guides. They also said it doesn't depend on age bc a person can be very healthy at 80, but generally speaking that's the guide. It's all very sad this has generalised and now they don't have the chance bc countries were too late to respond.

Indeeed. I remember they were talking about the first cases in Italy and an epidemiologist was asked whether or not that would "come" To Spain. He said it was likely and everyine was surprised. As for the numbers the recovered are only partitually true as well, in the sense they are recovered because they were tested befire and after. But there have been many more cases, recovered and having dead all of them not counted.

Indeed. It's been 2 weeks here in Spain (especially in the Community of Madrid and Catalonia where there are more cases) that they only test people who go to hospital, and I heard that not even all of them. Eventually, all thr countries, will face -and are facing- thr same issue. Now the real problems are having enough ventilators and beds and equipment. It is at the point of saturation or it has rrached it. People dying in nursing homes for elders have not been counted as well -so far. (Catalonia at least). So I also read that the cases are actually at least 10/20+ times more.

So the Germans decided that Trump holding the exclusive vaccine rights was not a good idea. Good for Germany!

At least Germany closes Frontiers! Lol Spain will try one day. Once every single country has closed theirs.

It's those double standards.....EU for what? I totally agree with you. Now the President of Catalonia told us to stay at homr and not go to work despite the MP of Spain saying we can go to work... The President of the Autonomous Commujity of Madrid said the same. Please close borders. please dont go to work. But we don't have competences for that. Meanwhile people who go for a walk in a desert beach are fined. And we can go to the hairdresser. Technology shops can open as well.

Yes Ebola it's a different issue. I guess that this was the main difference in being more restrictive.which is understandable in a way because it was extremely lethal. But this would have been the best idea once reached a point...apart from isolation within the cities. Problem is they are waiting too much. Right now it has spread in my neighborhood as I have been told and Catalonia won't be doing any more tests (Madrid as well) bc we don't have resources. I myself have some temeprature and I don't know what to do...well I can't go outside. Thing is, the Catalan Government wanted to people not go to work and close frontiers and for some reason Spain has bot decided we are at that point. Techbicallly we have to go to work unless our bosses provide us with the telematic help. But we can't go for a walk now. Makes no sense to me going to work. And the economy is already messed up with the exception of basic services and food industries that can't stop. So maybe prioritising? I don't know. Problem is that many people will lose their jobs, won't be able to pay basic things...we will face recession. But right now what's more important? 1x100 of the population is a lot. As for the tests they can't be done to unless you have symptoms because the test increases the number of viruses so if you don't have enough they won't be detected. But they shoukd be done later once self isolation is a must once certaun numbers have been reached. Anyway...about Catalonia and Madrid won't be doing any more tests. Which is against the WHO.... Maybe some countries like China should be helping us now Europe with the tests. It's complicated.

The problem is that there are many more cases than we actually detect in all Spain. A Catalan epidemyologist th eother said that there were at least 3 times more cases than the ones we detected. And this is being a reality right now, The things is not isolated naymore, but we don't know. For instance, in Catalonia we thought that was the case and in three days we passed from around 100+ cases to more than 700. With the public transport in a big city like Barcelona, now I believe it's everywhere. Once it has spread (and by moving around it's spreading) there will be more cases everywhere. And some regions have less hospitals. They expeect more cases form people who have moved, for instance this is what happened in Italy when they closed certain borders last week. But we won't see that till next week because you need 15 days approx to see that. (Provided that tests are done......now I read it's not the case anymore in Catalonia and Madrid). Thing is, people need hopsitals for other things. Yesterday the grandma of a friend of mine broke her hip, she needed surgery. We all might have an appendicitis. Etc, etc. Here students of medicine are volunteering for some things (for instance taking care of the children of meds who are on quarantene, phone calls....) and they are asking for the help of retired doctors. So yes, wherever you are, the best thing as you say it is to self isolate. Now technically we are obligued to self isolate wherever we are in SPain, although The MP said we could still return (I guess that during today).

That's exactly what happened yesterday here. And a bunch of people going on holidays to other places like the beach.