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  1. We got a good picture of what it was like from some of them. I love the way Diana Rigg stood up to them. Stephen Dillane's comments were priceless. "I've flicked it on [since leaving] to see if I could figure out what was going on, but I couldn’t... I didn't know what I was doing until we'd finished filming and it was too late. The damage had been done. I thought no one would believe in me and I was rather disheartened by the end. I felt I'd built the castle on non-existent foundations.” https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/stephen-dillane-its-better-not-working-in-westeros-nkb9qj3tr
  2. Also, speaking of lacking self-awareness... One of their defining characteristics is the inability to take criticism. They deflect it like mad, instead of listening.
  3. Love your comments. And of course, they don't know what "male gaze" means - since basically the whole show is from their own male gaze perspective. Self-awareness isn't their strong suit.
  4. He just wanted to love her! He's the most moral man in the universe, the smartest, and really, such a sweet little love bug! Who cares if she wanted him dead, and tortured and killed so many others... she was just a girl who wanted the comfort of a man! Basically they got off on all the explosions and violence, and didn't care who did what, or any logical sequence of events. If they wanted to screw over a character, they did. If they wanted to honor one of their precious pets, they did. And St. Tyrion was their most precious of pets. (Littlefinger was one of their pets, too. As was Ramsay and Tywin. They loved to glorify the villains. Ooops, lawful neutrals.)
  5. I usually just use their names, the better to remember to stay away from anything with their names on it in the future. It's funny, for people who keep saying they knew nothing about the jobs they were given (as Benioff, Weiss, and Cogman all did repeatedly) they constantly resisted input by others who knew better. Actors, directors, and others in the business, as well as some good critics*... and they constantly scorned the viewers, who ultimately paid for the whole thing. There's dissonance there that speaks of entitlement, arrogance, and utter cluelessness. *and here's an early one that went unheeded: https://www.slantmagazine.com/tv/game-of-thrones-season-one/
  6. Well, we know the "Dumb and Dumber" name really got to them, because they constantly project their insecurities by using the word "dumb" about viewers who express their opinions. Also yet more trite excuses for bad writing. They truly can't walk and chew gum at the same time. Their excuses constantly reveal just how bad they are at this, yet they keep parading them out, in utter obliviousness.
  7. D&D&C are so hilariously bad at everything. Thanks for reading that so we don't have to. Hell to the no on all of that. The experienced actors frequently called them out, good for them.
  8. Tyrion, who got revenge by arming the hill tribes who terrorized the countryside (that was on the show in season 1), is the most moral man in the universe. Cersei, who committed countless attrocities, was just a girl who needed the comfort of a man. And Tywin, who ordered the Mountain to terrorize the countryside, after ordering the gang rape of his son's wife (also on the show), was a lawful neutral! So here they are in season 4 saying it's fine to be ruthless, and Tywin is awesome and not evil at all. And yet in season 8, Dany is "her Satanic Majesty"! Yeah, right, boys. Weiss: Well, I don’t think Tywin is a villain. Benioff: That’s a fair point. If you read the story from the Stark point of view… Weiss: …then I guess he would be a villain. Benioff: But Tywin isn’t torturing prostitutes for pleasure. He’s not a sadist. He’s ruthless, for sure. But there’s an argument to be made that Westeros needs ruthlessness. You look at Daenerys across the sea — she’s crucifying 163 masters; she’s pretty ruthless, too. So you love Daenerys even when she’s killing people and condemn Tywin. I think somebody asked Charles about that in an interview and he was quite resistant to the idea of Tywin as a villain. I think Dan’s right. I don’t think of him as evil. Weiss: I would call him Lawful Neutral. https://ew.com/article/2014/06/15/game-of-thrones-showrunners-on-season-4-finale-twists/ There's also this, with similar rationalizations, that others have rightly cited as evidence that they were just making things up as they went along: She's not her father and she's not insane and she's not a sadist, but there's a Targaryen ruthlessness that comes with even the good Targaryens.
  9. Continuity is for 8th graders. She's indestructible for nearly 8 seasons, until a gaping fool tricks her. Her clothing, however, was destructible for boob opps. She's naked in the season 1 and season 5 fires (but has indestructible hair later, because that's hotter) because Benioff and Weiss wanted to see her boobs. Let's do the audience filling in the gaps thing. Maybe she became one with Drogon, and thus assumed his characteristics. But they never showed that, and they wouldn't let her honor the man she named him for. Her sun and stars didn't warrant a mention in the end. Only a fool could have missed it in the books (so they might have an excuse after all), where she honors Drogo constantly, she wears his lion pelt and thanks him for making her khaleesi and encouraging her. And there's all that talk about meeting in death, even on the show, but that meant something, so they forgot. All that meaningful stuff was the GRRM story so it wasn't what was "best for the show." And yet, it was on the show in the beginning, however bungled. You see, it's best for a main character to have no last words. Stab stab stab, oh I see I'm dying, let me say... NOTHING. Like all the good stories do.
  10. Arya, Bran, Sansa, Jaime, ... the list of abrupt changes is endless. And it's impossible to fill in the gap to absurdity. The show was unintentional farce. If only they had played it for laughs, but they didn't have that ability, either.
  11. This is the time of year when many are enjoying their annual extended edition LOTR rewatch. Crickets for GoT, other than the bad ending example, or the butt of a joke about something bad.
  12. Yep. They held up evil Cersei as the good example. Cersei was just a girl who needs the comfort of a man, they said. Cersei only died because Dany didn't have the comfort of a man. So many great messages. (And they made Dany forget the man who would have murdered anyone who murdered her... which was the case with Viserys, who threatened to do so.)
  13. So basically the stooges (and Cogman makes three) were saying all the darkness is awesome! Then the darkness isn't really dark, since there's no light for contrast. This is an unstory. There is no no existential crisis leading to enlightenment. There is no enlightenment. There is no dark night of the soul, from which to emerge triumphant. Darkness is awesome. There is that discontinuity with the first part of the story, though, when dark stuff wasn't celebrated. Ned should have been singing when they cut off his head. Thank you, Joffrey!
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