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  1. Lots of really bad writing in the scripts, and because Benioff/Weiss/Cogman/Hill can't write, they explain how everyone is feeling in the script notes (or shall we say, attempt to explain, because it's basically throwaway lines with profanity and drivel). Like this, in Cogman's script: "Fuck tradition" and "Dammit. She's in love." as a script note. Wow, that's profound, and so helpful. And this, from Benioff/Weiss: "Emilia Clarke conveys this depth and intimacy while interacting with a green foam head."
  2. More atrocious writing excerpts from the scripts... this one stood out, typical Benioff and Weiss: ... Theon starts the scene by gingerly touching a bruise on his face left from Yara's headbutt. "Don't be a girl," Yara says in the script. Like show Brienne (in the books she said "Are you so craven?"): "You sound like a bloody woman." And show Catelyn: "I knew I was the worst woman who ever lived." And show Arya: "Most girls are idiots." And show Tyene: "You want a good girl, but you need a bad pussy." And show Asha (Yara) (in the books she thought, "Cunt again? It was odd how men like Suggs used that word to demean women when it was the only part of a woman they valued."): "You're a cunt." And again, show Asha: "Don't be a girl." So is it any wonder what they did to show Sansa and show Dany. They didn't stand a chance. None of them did. They had to "fix" them all. The difference between the books and the show is that the author of the books tried to see these women as human beings. Oh there's this, too. And it's not just women they screw over, although that's their specialty. They are screwing Jaime over here, too. Everything is seen from their own perspective, and it's such a juvenille one. They are describing a young medieval lady like a frat boy. And "saved the world"? No one over the age of 5 says things like that. And funny they ask why he feels that way, because the actor asked the same thing, and never got an answer. Brienne sleeps the sleep of the happily drunk and devirginized. Jaime can't sleep, however. He just helped save the world. So why does he feel like a traitor?
  3. GoT really is worse, the more you think of it. The opposite of something good.
  4. Stranger Things, they stayed in character, they did new things (yeah, same premise, but it moved along), there was actual romance!, you wanted to see it a second time, and even a third, .... it stayed with you. I just saw El Camino (Breaking Bad movie about what happens to Jesse), and that was good, too. They stayed in character, they did new things, and there was friendship, and yeah, I'll watch it again some day. And an oddly sweet moment involving a bar of Irish Spring soap that stayed with me. Vince Gilligan has such a delicate touch when it comes to subtle character moments, he's a true storyteller. I'd watch anything he did. I never had anything like that ever with Game of Thrones. Nothing that didn't come from the books, that they didn't destroy, and there were so few things. Even their less awful moments, they were so pedestrian, so nothing.
  5. So GoT got nothing in the People's Choice Awards... Stranger Things won the two big show categories.
  6. This reminds me of those vegamatic commercials! Chopped characterization in mere minutes!
  7. True, one point that seemed to have escaped them in all their privileged HBO film school for rich boy brilliance... a character with flaws is a hell of a lot more interesting than a paragon of perfection.
  8. Tyrion kidnapped her, didn't pay her, slapped her, and put in mortal danger so she'd be more conveniently nearby to screw, despite explicit warnings not to do so by his father, who had a track record of ordering psychos to brutalize his first wife, a princess, as well as so many peasant women. They changed Shae into a Stepford Whore rather than allow her to rebel against the situation she found herself in. Just like they changed Sansa, to eliminate her resistance when she was forced to marry him. Just like they made the sex slave beg him to do her. They were just props for the precious.
  9. Oh, it was deliberate. It's easy to put out shitty messages. Benioff and Weiss write from such a privileged viewpoint, it seeps out of every plot point, throughout the show. And was sanctioned by the HBO good ole boys. And how they ended it, with their practically perfect in every way self-insert Tyrion and his buddy yukking it up about brothels, is emblematic of this. It's amusing to them that peasant women will have to feed their egos.
  10. Yep, exactly. There's an editorial message here on the part of Benioff and Weiss (also Cogman) that is downright disturbing. They reversed everything from the books, which condemned men who did these things. Instead, Benioff and Weiss blame the woman for the bizarre things they make her do, and they make her grateful for the abuse. They did this notoriously with Sansa and Dany, it was a pattern throughout the series.
  11. OMG, that is the pits. Putting aside for a moment that Benioff and Weiss once again stripped the meaning from a book scene and did the opposite... Since Tyrion was able to neutralize any threat from Shae because he's stronger than she is... and in both books and show he actually sat there and SLOWLY AND DELIBERATELY STRANGLED HER TO DEATH WITH HIS HANDS... then why didn't he just walk away? He didn't have to kill her. Look what you made me do is the classic domestic abuser excuse. Same toxic message as with Jon killing Dany. (Also they hang jealousy on the woman (she wasn't in the books), but not on the man.) GRRM condemns Tyrion strongly for murdering Shae, both here and throughout the book story: With Shae, it’s a much more deliberate and in some ways a crueler thing. It’s not the action of a second, because he’s strangling her slowly and she’s fighting, trying to get free. He could let go at any time. But his anger and his sense of betrayal is so strong that he doesn’t stop until it’s done and that’s probably the blackest deed that he’s ever done. It’s the great crime of his soul along with what he did with his first wife by abandoning her after the little demonstration Lord Tywin put on. Now by the standards of Westeros, that’s hardly a crime at all — “So a lord killed a whore, big deal.” He’s not likely to be punished for that any more than any other lords and knights who treat lowborn women and prostitutes and tavern wenches with contempt and use them and discard them. It’s nothing to the world, but it’s again something that’s going to haunt him, while the act of killing his father is something of enormous consequence that would be forever beyond the pale, for no man is as cursed as a kinslayer. https://ew.com/article/2014/06/16/game-of-thrones-finale-martin/ Yeah, no consequence at all on the show, because... POOR TYRION!
  12. Benioff/Weiss were all about getting the shot instead of the story. All flash and no cash. The only cash was lining their pockets. And the shots they came up with were some combination of unnecessary, hackneyed, and just plain nonsense without a good story.
  13. He blames Jon Snow, good for him! No man is as cursed as the kinslayer!
  14. Still wondering about that baby... the one they put on a block of ice and obsessed over filming his penis while his mother was upset... and of course no admission from HBO that they failed in oversight. They should have skipped the ice and just had someone say it was a boy. Better yet, skip the whole thing, it never mattered anyway. Arya Ninja Turtle ended it all in a second, and the short night was over. https://metro.co.uk/2019/10/29/game-thrones-db-weiss-david-benioff-put-naked-baby-real-ice-block-terrifying-night-king-11005238/
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