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  1. What? Quaithe theories I can handle, her potential identity is a mystery after all. Each to their own and all that. Bloodraven is quite simply Brynden Rivers!! Anyone who thinks otherwise is crazy. Out of interest, what other characters have been theorized as being Bloodraven? I've never heard any of those theories.
  2. Hi Seams. In response to your question, I thought you would enjoy @evita mgfs's post/essay on the five senses and how they relate to Arya's arc. Hope you enjoy the read. Edit: The link takes you to the OP on the thread. The post on the five senses is post #14. Sorry for the inconvenience.
  3. Hey @Brandon Ice-Eyes V1 The corn king is a god who sacrifices himself for the Land or for a good harvest to come the next year. He can appear in other traditions around the world, for instance as Adonis, Osiris or Tammuz. Jon is a very strong candidate for a Corn King in the current narrative. One who dies only to come back to life to bring in the new season, namely spring. There's good foreshadowing for such as well....
  4. The Skaggosi supposedly still practise human sacrifice. Garth the Greenhand apparently wanted blood sacrifice from his worshippers back in the day. Plus the tales of him being sacrificed and reborn in the spring ala the Corn King myth. And hi @kissdbyfire
  5. Hey @The Lord of the Crossing I love all of this, and it fits perfectly with what I've been posting about regards the Celtic mythology & subterranean link. In Celtic myth when a mortal travels to the Underworld/Otherworld they experience time differently. In some cases the mortal will have been in the Underworld for mere weeks or days, yet when they return to our normal world hundreds of years could have passed. Another name for the Celtic Otherworld is Tir-na-Nog which translates as 'Land of Youth'. This all fits nicely with what you mention, but also ties in with the extended years the greenseers seem to live.
  6. Cool. More & more hints to Winterfell being a portal to the Underworld. Fell is another meaning for hill, so Winterfell certainly has a load of Underworld clues. @Seams has a thread on the subject of the words 'seam' having the same meaning as 'fell'. It's where I found the clues for my hollow hills essay, fell also means hill.
  7. Nice! Another mythological belief is that a tree struck with lightning becomes a portal into the Otherworld, so that's freaking cool. As for the sea anemones, they are closely associated with clownfish. They have a symbiotic relationship, both need the other to survive. Clownfish rely on anemones for protection from predators, while anemones rely on clownfish for food. Anyhoo, the clownfish makes me think of fools, so Patchface riddling about the nennymoans is rather fitting.
  8. Agreed, can't wait to see her back at Vaes Dothrak. Yep, I like your interpretation that the shadow will be shadow of the Mother the Mountains, it makes the most sense as it's confirmed [I think] that no character will be visiting Asshai. ''The womb of the world sounds like a cave to me.'' you say? Well you couldn't be more right. If you search the symbolic meaning & history of caves for various civilisations you will find something like this...………….. Caves are literally called the 'Womb of Mother Earth', so nail on head and all that. They are symbolic of rebirth so it's fascinating to think that characters like Bran, Arya & Dani have entered these hollow hill/cave sites & undergone life changing experiences which will ultimately change them as people moving forward. A symbolic rebirth. You're spot on about the domain of the crones and the keepers of mysteries as well. Not only is Vaes Dothrak a great site for caves [let's face it, it's a mountain] but the text has already confirmed we should be associating this site with hollow hills. Right back in AGOT Dani was being placed in a symbolic cave, straight out named a hollow hill.
  9. Hi BalerionTheCat. Absolutely, the subterranean is super important. Having found a potential link with the subterranean & magic, I find it interesting that the CotF agreed to give up huge parts of Westeros & accept the wooded areas in the pact with the First Men. If you look at the wooded areas they are all pock marked with caves & hollow hills, so give or take the parts of the cave systems acquired by the First Men houses this enabled them to own pretty half the continent, the underground half that is. This is almost identical to the Celtic myth tale of the Tuatha de Dannan [Sidhe] & the invading Milesians of Irish lore. Once it became obvious the invading Milesians were the victors in this battle, both sides agreed to make a pact. Although they agreed to share half the Island, the Tuatha de Dannan/Sidhe were tricked & ended up agreeing to live in the half that was underground. It is said that the Sidhe went to the Underworld through the hollow hills or Sidhe mounds. All very CotF like. I agree the crypts are magically protected, much like the Wall & Storm's End. Cheers
  10. Thanks, I'm really pleased you enjoyed the read. Awesome connection, love that! One of the offshoots in my thinking after researching this essay is that all the Houses with a hollow hill/weirwood tree/First Men blood connection are more open to being contacted or receiving the gift, or greensight etc. One example is when Jaime has the weirwood stump dream, so this is another strong example regards Jaime and the Lannisters. Kind of reminds me of Bran as well as Euron, the whole falling from their castle thing. Absolutely, good example. As usual, George's histories set up possibilities for the future, Euron certainly has eyes on the Iron Throne in some guise, which would echo greenseer kings. That's also happened somewhere else we are not to mention. Yep, Braavos is a hub of greenseer clues, I like your idea that it's a sea mount or volcano. Not only is the House of Black & White a hollow hill, there are clues such as the bridge of a thousand painted eyes, all the misty clues [''half the city will be half blind tonight'' as BR clue] etc. And for those familiar with ravenous readers 'Under the See/sea' greensea/see pun essay' there is a lot of 'under the see' imagery as well. Old Wyk was a key piece of evidence in formulating this idea/theory. While there is no text confirming a weirwood tree or subterranean space, it is confirmed as a magical & sacred hill by Victarion. I agree with you that the hall is very likely underground. Dragonstone was mentioned in the comments of my thread, but didn't fit the First Men angle I was going for, but yes it's another great example. Nice point that their magic is both fiery in nature. A slight aside, I've always found it interesting that Bran, Arya & Deanerys are all being taught/tutored/trained by old magical men within hollow hills. All three also take a substance to enhance their connection/abilities. Not sure what exactly that means, but there are many similarities.
  11. Theon means godly. Only a godly man may sit the Seastone chair.
  12. Awesome, my essay concentrates on the hidden hollow hill sites in Westeros. I really need to expand & write a second essay on the Essosi sites, although they were discussed in the comments. A lot of the info I have subsequently picked up as I have delved into the subject of Celtic myth, some discussed on Twitter, some with friends. An exploration into Celtic influence within Grrm's work is also something I would like to write about. One day I will.
  13. Hi LynnS. One thing that connects all the sites you've mentioned & all the magic connected to these places is that they are all hollow hill sites, as described in my essay, 'The Caves are Timeless: Hollow Hills, Magic Castles and Greenseers' . A gateway into the magic Underworld of Westeros/Planetos. A hollow hill being a passageway into the magic of the Underworld/Otherworld is a classic motif derived from Celtic mythology used in a lot of fantasy, George being no exception. There are various ways a hollow hill can be described, it doesn't always have to an obvious hill per se. Here's a definition I found online. I mention this because sites like the HotU [among others] don't at first seem like hills, so therefore maybe overlooked as hollow hill sites, but they are. The pathway to the Underworld is certainly there, with sites like the HotU it goes some way to explaining the oddity of Daenerys having to climb stairs when the building is described as long & low. I think the majority of the HotU is underground, although this illusion may also involve magic and the weird visions Dani gets etc. The House of Black & White is also a hollow hill site, it is described as a 'rocky knoll' & of course has all the underground levels, or basically caves. The Wall is likewise a hollow hill site, the Nightfort being the strongest example, but the entire Wall is a potential entrance to the Underworld. Not only do we have the wormways & passages, but also Gorne's Way or the cave system that goes under the Wall. The Wall is only a minutes walk from north to south, yet it's insinuated that the caves below go on for miles & miles. This would support the idea that the cave system stretches from east to west, therefore a huge part of the Wall and all the castles would have the caves directly below them. It's probable that there is access to these caves below the castles/Wall, as we see at the Nightfort. If this is the case, it would explain why the Wall is a magical hinge of the world, the magic of the Underworld runs below miles of it. There are also lots of weirwoods growing near this power source, one at the Nightfort, but also wild weirwoods growing north of the Wall. This is a recurring theme when we encounter hollow hill sites, all those saplings we see are growing near caves. Westeros is slightly different to Essos when it comes to hollow hill sites, most of them have weirwoods growing on site. There are the two 'named' hollow hill sites we as readers have visited, High Heart & Bloodraven's cave, both have weirwoods & both have the magic present. Other notable sites include Winterfell, Storm's End, Casterly Rock, Horn Hill, Highgarden, The Wolf's Den. Even ruins like Sea Dragon point & The Whispers. All have weirwoods & all have legends attached to them that sound very greenseer like & stuffed full of magic. To conclude, all of these sites have the Underworld in common. The sites in Essos don't have the weirwood trees [perhaps the Shade trees once performed the same role?] but the Essosi sites still seem to have magical abilities. This is [in my opinion] due to connection with the magical world below. Whether it be the HotU, HoBaW, the caves in Valyria, the caves in the Shadow by Asshai, the caves on Leng etc all of them have weird tales of sorcery. I shall pause for now, although I have lots of thoughts on this subject. I think I've hit the high notes of what I wanted to talk about. Really cool thread & chat.
  14. Jaime meeting the Queen 'o' Whores.... "Lady? I'm no lady. I'm the queen." "My sister will be surprised to hear that." "Lord Ryman crowned me his very self." She gave a shake of her ample hips. "I'm the queen o' whores." No, Jaime thought, my sweet sister holds that title too.
  15. Hi @Seams Coins -- scion I recently found this potential word play when looking into an idea by @ravenous reader that the Prince that was promised may actually be a price that was promised. The theory being that Brandon the Builder may have been involved in a 'promise/pact/agreement' to give up a child/heir/scion, only for the prize to be stolen away. Alternatively, some have theorised that the NK/NQ may be the potential candidates. Either way, the basic premise is that a Prince [scion] was to be exchanged in payment [coins] but was stolen away, thus the Others want to now claim their prize. There are various examples of this in the text, the obvious one being Theon sent to ward with the Stark's as payment for Balon's rebellion. The first of three 'Princes' exchanged in payment............... Secondly, a Stark Prince...... [or the heir of the King beyond the Wall, whichever takes ones fancy] The third example is my favourite as it highlights the potential for the scion/coins wordplay...... Three prices Princes used as coin or exchanged as payment. Regarding RR's idea that Brandon the Builder may have made some kind of pact/agreement involving the payment of a child/heir and then reneging on the deal, here are a couple of instances of Noble scions being 'stolen' away or robbed. Firstly, Jaime....... And secondly, Sweetrobin........ Aerys 'robbed' Jaime, and Robin [robbing ] was stolen away. So we have three examples of 'Princes' promised/exchanged in payment [coins/scion] and two of Noble heirs/scions [Princes in all but name] being 'stolen away'. I really like the idea that the Others have come back to claim their prize, and the quoted text may support the notion that a 'promised Prince' may also potentially be a 'promised Price'. Other examples that RR has found include the exchange from one side of the Wall to the other involving Bran and Monster, and Robb who was supposed to marry Walder Frey's daughter as a 'bridge toll'! A special component of being 'promised to someone' often entails marriage..... @ravenous reader has also recently found another example that fits particularly well......... A [bastard] Prince exchanged in payment only to be stolen away by a Stark. If this parallels the Prince [price] that was promised and the Others are indeed seeking their late payment then it's interesting that this example has the Wall coming down. Cheers Seams, nice to see this classic thread back on the front page of the forum.
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