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  1. chrisdaw

    Euron Greyjoy "Ice or Fire"

    There's no need to frame it as fire and ice, doing so isn't really going to provide any insight here. They're symbolic, ice is cold hard logic, devoid of the heart, which is what the reborn Jon will be. Fire is passion, to be ruled and rule from the heart in spite of the brain, Dany. Euron is another thing altogether, he'll be associated with stone to signify his complete lack of empathy. You are however extremely correct about what Euron specifically intends to do and you're right to parallel it with those parts of Dany's story. What Euron is going to do is what happened to Drogo and is what will happen to Dany also. Euron will do it then she will do it, that's why it all aligns. Euron knows or suspects that dragons can be second lifed, that Targaryens/Valyrians did it. It is what his horn does. He knows to do it requires a sacrifice of one's own child and that the child must have Valyrian blood. It is what happened with Rhaego and he plans to repeat the sequence. Hence why he specifically needs a heir from Dany, a worthy heir. He plans to have a child by Dany, to sacrifice that child and his own mortal life, and to be reborn as a dragon. It is what he means by flying, and jumping from a tower means suicide. He'll never know if he can fly unless he jumps from a tower, means he'll never know if he can second life a dragon unless he kills himself. Being a dragon is basically becoming a god, the most powerful being in the world with a lifespan many times that of anything else. It is what he means by flying. It is why he views gods of other religions false, as they don't really offer believers a life after death, whereas this practice does. The dragon is not just a god, it is also heaven. A celestial being, it can allow more than one soul within it. The head of the dragon can allow people's soul within the dragon it to live a second life. Euron will second life Drogon (won't be by sacrificing Dany's baby, it will be with Arianne's) and Drogon will become the stone beast (a stone kraken dragon), reflecting Euron's blood and nature. At the end of the series Dany will die and she will second life Drogon. Her soul will melt Euron's soul out of Drogon and all his stone, and a massive conventional fire dragon will be reborn. This is why there's all the fire against stone imagery in the series (Dany's wake the dragon dream, harrenhal, Garin the Great, Qarlon the Great). This is the world being born anew. She will then allow entry of other souls (those souls seem to be homeless currently, they are the whispering stars in her dreams/visions) into the dragon with her. This is her defeating death and all those who died in her name being reborn. Also the rising of a Khal after death to ride the night lands with their starry khalasar.
  2. chrisdaw

    [TWOW Spoilers] Alayne I, v. 3

    And I think you are ignoring important thematic inclusions in the text because they don't fit your wishes. Sansa forcing sweet sleep on Robert is a part of the story for a reason, and that reason is not to show she is negligent.
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    [TWOW Spoilers] Alayne I, v. 3

    Things don't need that much elaborating, Sansa's use of drugs to sedate SR against the protestations of his maester concerned for the boy's health is not a benevolent act.
  4. chrisdaw

    [TWOW Spoilers] Alayne I, v. 3

    You're just handwaving swathes of text as if it's meaningless. It's not.
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    [TWOW Spoilers] Alayne I, v. 3

    The game of thrones can not be played honourably because the means are dishonourable, it requires such things as drugging and slowly poisoning your sickly cousin so that they'll be compliant, and banking on their death. You have to try very hard to not see the point being made in the text.
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    [TWOW Spoilers] Alayne I, v. 3

    Rainbows and unicorns again. Yes there is the minor theme in her arc that love and kindness can inspire greater people and people to be greater than fear and material wealth. And that's all you're correct about. Sansa is not about to play the game of thrones honourably, the game of thrones can not be played honourably, that should be apparent by now, that point has been well and often made. It is not for no reason she's neck deep in trading the little fool's health for political gain, reeling in Harry or starving the populace for profit. Tears are not a woman's only weapon, dead men tell no tales, such have been her lessons, and she's a parrot, watch, learn, recite.
  7. chrisdaw

    Euron will commit Dany's treason for blood.

    There are other ways a betrayal for blood can work. He needs Dany specifically to carry his child because she is blood of the dragon, thought to be the last of her line. But it's not going to work, Dany won't be able to carry his child to term, so he's going to go to the next best dragon blooded womb, Arianne, and that will be the betrayal for blood.
  8. chrisdaw

    Dany's three betrayals

    When Jon kills (likely executes) Dany it will not be a betrayal or treason, it will be justice. It's going to result in his sword taking flame, a flaming sword symbolically represents justice.
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    Euron will commit Dany's treason for blood.

    It's just a rolling Euron's kinslaying into the Bloodstone Emperor's story to tick another box for a parallel.
  10. This one is given to us pretty freely, I will make the case. I will make the case only that is Euron who will commit the treason against Dany, but will not speculate as to what the treason will be. In the House of the Undying Dany is treated to many a prophecy, including three treasons she will know. The precise wording, So Dany will know a treason for blood. In The World of Ice and Fire in the Yi Ti section there is the story of the various emperors leading to the Bloodstone Emperor. Notice the Bloodstone Emperor's list of hits aligns closely with Euron. His betrayal of the Amethyst Empress is given a name. So the Bloodstone Emperor committed the Blood Betrayal against the Amethyst Empress. A Blood Betrayal to a treason for blood. Same same. An amethyst is a purple jewel. Dany is basically (besides Lord Brax) the only character referred to with an amethyst descriptor. And by Euron no less. And note specifically what Euron fixates on about Dany. Line, as in bloodline. It is her dragon blood he wants her for. Euron's affiliation with blood is strong. The Bloodstone Emperor is an analogue for Euron, the Amethyst Empress for Dany, and the Blood Betrayal is an analogue for a treason Euron will commit against Dany - the treason for blood that she will know.
  11. chrisdaw

    Dany's three betrayals

    Like almost every prophesy, vision or otherwise obvious piece of foreshadowing the 3 treasons have not happened yet. The purpose of such things is to create wonder at the possibilities, hype their coming and overwhelm us with awe and excitement in the delivery. Having them already happen before hand or in close proximity to being described nullifies their whole purpose. The goal here is that when each happens its completely fucking epic and we all pour through the pages thinking holy shit its happening.
  12. chrisdaw

    Dany's three betrayals

    It isn't against her, the wording in the text is three treasons she will know, it'll be one she commits.
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    [TWOW Spoilers] Alayne I, v. 3

    Plenty of Lannisters have laid their hands on Sansa, literally and figuratively. They've moulded her, she's thinking and speaking in Cersei terms, one to one. She's obviously not the Lady of Winterfell in any capacity, and she is behaving contrary to the teachings of Winterfell. Catelyn and Ned would disgust at her involvement in LF's scheming and the treatment of SR, but Cersei would understand. The arc is pawn to player. Naive sweetling learns life's realities the hard way and grows into the best most perceptive and ruthless of power players. The Vale with its mini political web is the training course, from there she will graduate to the main game in KL.
  14. chrisdaw

    Dany's three betrayals

    The word used is treasons rather than betrayals. For blood will be Euron second lifing Drogon from her. Gold is probably Tyrion betraying her for Jaime. For love will be Dany herself glamouring as Ygritte to trick Jon into impregnating her.
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    [TWOW Spoilers] Alayne I, v. 3

    Sansa's arc is not going to take her to the north or Winterfell, she'll be in KL after the Vale to move her pawns in the game of thrones. Her central conflict is if she is Sansa Stark or Sansa Lannister, honour and fairness or power and avarice. Really the culmination will look more like a question of if there's any Stark left inside of her, or has she gone completely to Lannister. Does she care at all for the collateral damage she'll cause in claiming and holding power, for the feelings and safety of her loyal pawns.
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