Prof. Cecily

As if it were so easy! We have description of this personage from a number of sources,and also portraits and descriptions of her parents. And I agree, it's a project for post season 7!

Never mind- why not enjoy both ways of viewing the series? First in a pub to be amused by the group's reactions and then in a binge watching at your leisure?

Well, it's what tthe actress herself says: http://ew.com/article/2016/06/26/game-thrones-natalie-dormer-2/ I haven't seen the Tudors, other than a few episodes. When I saw Catalina of Aragon portrayed as a brunette, I lost interest, I confess. You're quite right- a good wholesome fun-loving person. I'm intrigued by how her character develops in TWOW!

I understood the actress asked to be released from GoT to pursue other roles. Who knows? Queen Margaery's character is yet to be really explored by GRRM and I'm hoping for more about her in future books of the saga.

Well, if she sticks to a story of either Renly or Joffry having taken her maidenhead, I don't know. Those religious fanatics will always be able to nab her her having entered the Great Sept on Maidens' Day. I can't predict the outcome. it could be anything from a walk of shame to becoming a Silent Sister to death. Unless GRRM has something else in mind for her. A lover? I'd say no. No lover at all. What do you reckon?

Well, hmmmm. We know Pycelle says she did. A POV of this Tyrell queen and thrice queen would have been interesting. You could well be right about the over-confidence, yes. Yet how do you defend yourself against a Cersei? The answer is obvious,of course. The Red Keep is full of staircases, after all.

I lift my frosted glass of pale Albariño wine in tribute to your 1,000th post. And once again in anticipation of your 2,000th! I'm with you. Natalie Dormer was splendid. From that stroll through Renly's camp with lord Baelish to her efforts to make Joffry a king, to her needling of Cersei, to her widened eyes as she understands what's about to happen in the Great Sept. A class act. Now it remains to see just how GRRM has conceived the personage- I'm pretty sure we won't be disappointed. And what fun it is to have both versions!

You've pointed out why it's important to read through the book before having an opinion of what happens (or appears to happen). GRRM is a master storyteller and seems to take delight in leading his readers to false conclusions. Also. Keep in mind the HBO production telescopes, compresses and merges events and characters from the saga. And then there are the added scenes, some of which are simply brilliant some, cringe-worthy. Hah! I see @sweetsunray has beaten me to the post. Well, now you have two takes on the subject, @Sanrast. Enjoy!

I remembered it because I'm rereading AFFC and our Sansa notices Mord's golden teeth. A Feast for Crows - Sansa I We're on the same page!

Thank you! An interesting idea. Hmmm. It's hard for me to imagine a pupil of Lady Olenna would go to Pycelle for moon tea. Or anything else. Oh, yes. Cersei's reactions to Falyse's condition after being subjecting to Qyburn's learning experience is one of the most chilling things I've read so far in the saga.

Yes. And also, her acceptance of these horrors is a grotesque testimony of Cersei's spiralling madness. I wonder what role Qyburn is going to play in the future.

Perfect! Nice work. And here's what I found: So yes, the brunt of the charges are the lack of a maidenhead and the moon tea. Ser Osmund recants. As for the Blue Bard http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Blue_Bard It's a disgusting story,all in all. By the way, there was an historical Blue Bard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geraint_the_Blue_Bard edited: Arggghhh! Like Oswain, Geraint was a fake.

A Feast for Crows - Cersei X

I'll look into that and thanks for the comment! In that case(and I've no doubt you're right there as I've only read ADwD twice and skimmed the trial scenes as quickly as I could) the evidence against the queen is her lack of a maidenhead and Pycell'es (now deceased) testimony about the moon tea. In the thread I cited from 2011, it's suggested that the queen's real crime is entering the sept on Maiden Day. I see this as a shout out to a divorce trial in ancient Rome against a noblewoman I seem to remember reading about.. Hmmm